But… but… it was Favreau who wrote it… and wrote every episode in the Mandalorian universe so far…
I know you’ve probably gotten this question plenty of times before, but have you given any thought to a Rebels: Refocused? Rebels is probably going to become much more relevant with the Ahsoka series on the horizon. Unfortunately, I think Rebels is harder to reshape because the progression is significantly more linear, but I’ve had friends that have complained that the first season in particular is hard to get through.
Funny, the first season of Rebels is my favorite season out of all SW animated shows, I think.
I thought this was an improvement over the first video, with the only complaint being that he was a bit too flippant about Lucas adding and then removing Luke’s scream. (However, this again would’ve been a great time to note that according to Matthew Wood, it was an error that Lucas never approved of in the first place and that Ben Burtt put it in himself and must’ve forgotten to ask.)
According to Matthew Wood, the scream was added at George’s request for the '97 Special edition. It was when it came around to doing the mix for the 2004 DVD’s that Mathew , who hated the scream, removed the sound effect and George didn’t notice it had gone, so it stayed that way.
No that’s incorrect. He said George didn’t remember approving it for 1997 so they removed it for 2004.
Congratulations on finishing this and thank you for sharing, Eddie. This towers as one of the great achievements our little community has produced in my books, and it’s all thanks to your unstoppable efforts. Once again, congratulations and thank you.
Star Wars Creator George Lucas Had A Simple Reason For Not Directing The Empire Strikes Back
‘One of the more common misconceptions about “Star Wars” is the idea that creator George Lucas directed and wrote the entire original trilogy. That idea leads people to wonder how the guy who created something as good as “The Empire Strikes Back” could later go on to make something so terrible with the prequels. How could Lucas’ films have fallen so far in quality so quickly?
The answer, of course, is that it was Irvin Kershner who directed “Empire,” and the screenplay was written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan. (“Return of the Jedi,” meanwhile, was directed by Richard Marquand.) Lucas oversaw the production and provided the stories for 5 and 6, but as a whole, the “Star Wars” original trilogy seemed to work as well as it did because of Lucas’ limited involvement. Even with the first film, which Lucas did write and direct, he was dealing with a lot of limitations that prevented him from getting too self-indulgent. Actors pushed back against his clumsy dialogue, and the editors made major cuts and changes to help with the film’s pacing.
Time has shown us that the less directly involved Lucas is with a “Star Wars” film, the better, but his decision to let Kershner direct “Empire” had a much simpler reason behind it. “I hate directing,” he told Rolling Stone in a 1980 interview. “It’s like fighting a fifteen-round heavyweight bout with a new opponent every day. You go to work knowing just how you want a scene to be, but by the end of the day, you’re usually depressed because you didn’t do a good enough job … It was easy to let go of directing.”
Probably should’ve kept letting go
'Not to pile on George Lucas even more than he’s already been, but considering how successful the approach for “Empire” turned out, one can’t help but wonder what the prequels would’ve looked like has Lucas stayed on as the story advisor and let someone else take over the script and direction. Instead, Lucas had complete control over both throughout all three prequel films, and unlike with “A New Hope,” there were far fewer constraints holding him back from his worst creative instincts.
It’s hard to hold this all against him too much though, because “Star Wars” as a decades-spanning franchise wouldn’t exist without him. Even beyond the surprise success of “A New Hope,” so much of what allowed “Empire” to surpass its predecessor was the creative freedom Lucas gave Kershner and the rest of the crew. Rather than cater to studio demands, Lucas made the bold choice to fund the movie himself, a decision that could’ve easily ruined him if things turned out differently.
“They were supposed to shoot [the Hoth scenes in Finse] in two weeks and they shot it in months,” Lucas later explained in a 2020 interview. “So it created a lot of havoc. We were projected to go way over budget and I’d already borrowed all the money that I could.” As the production continued to go over budget and behind schedule, Lucas borrowed even more money from a different bank to keep things running smoothly. It was insanely stressful, but no one today can say it wasn’t worth it. Lucas may not have directed the franchise’s best film, but he was a vital part of what allowed it to be so great in the first place.’
Awful article, and full of misinformation.
Funny you say that when Paul did re-record several Beatles tracks in his Give My Regards to Broad Street (1984), which got pretty bad reviews and even amongst Beatles and Paul fans is seen as a pretty bad entry in his canon.
There’s this: https://youtu.be/ZE9ZaAvhMhg
Cindy Williams, Laurie in one of Lucas’ masterpieces, American Graffiti.
I despise Whiplash (2014).
I was wondering how he did it!
Great stuff Ady, I’m a big fan of the original but I gotta say I’ve fallen for the more subtle approach you’re going for here. Congrats, it looks so great!
Check this twitter thread, very thorough: https://twitter.com/pabl0hidalgo/status/1427722793647427591?s=20
You’re very unpleasant.
Hey Arcbagel, could I please get a link? This sounds great, I sent you a PM a few days ago asking if you were sending out the edit but I don’t believe you saw it. Cheers and thanks in advance!
+2 for the cinema.
Did they show Empire at the cinemas for the 40th anniversary in the end with Covid going on?
It would be fantastic to see this on the big screen again:
but I would reluctantly settle for watching one of the later “Special Edition” versions at the cinema if that was our only choice.
ESB had a drive-in run in 2020, IIRC. It was the new 2019 Special Editions.
Everything Everywhere All At Once is massively overrated.
I like Hal’s “I wanted…” but I think it gives Ben a bit too much agency, perhaps more than he should at that point. Though it probably works better even than the original in the context of the Kenobi show, if you’re into that (I’m definitely not but what can you do).
Would it be possible to have Obi-Wan say “Your father would’ve wanted you to have this…”? If so, it could be a simple solution to the whole thing.
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I couldn’t care less about “Lucas canon” and so should everyone, that’s my point.
But he clearly cares, and that’s my point. It’s fine to have an opinion on what’s the “best” version, but the OP came in with a clear request, and I responded accordingly. You can’t expect to just force everyone to have the same taste that you do.
Clearly? He’s looking for a fan edit. He said he didn’t want Disney stuff and to my knowledge 1997 is GL’s official version as well, so not sure what your problem is. If I was forcing my taste then I wouldn’t recommend any SE version at all, I haven’t seen those in over 10 years. So stop dissing others’ opinion if they differ from your own. Thank you.
George’s last official version was 2011, technically 2019 since he oversaw the very few changes to that as well. 2011 and 2019 Blus introduced very few new changes, they’re essentially just the 2004 versions with very small extra stuff, but amongst that extra stuff is the “NOOOOOoo” that the OP doesn’t want. 2004, on the other hand, introduced many many new things when compared to 1997, all approved by George, so Starkiller is correct in assuming it’s what the OP is looking for. They’re saying they want all George-approved SE changes minus the Nooooo, which is close enough to the 2004 versions that it’d be correct.
OP, I’d recommend schorman’s HDTV preservation as it’s the 2004 versions in 1080p.
Very exciting. Andor pumping life into everyone’s veins, haha 😃
I’m rewatching it with my brother - I loved the first arc way more on a rewatch, and it also gave me further appreciation for the last couple episodes, since I’d forgotten pretty much who everyone was in Ferrix by the end. Great, great show. I think the flashback stuff would probably have worked better as a cold, pre-title opening and then just have the rhyming bits with Maarva & young Cassian and Luthen & present-day Cassian in their respective places, but it still works. Can’t wait to rewatch the rest of the stuff.
I initially thought that too, throughout those first three episodes. “They messed up the line!” Well, in retrospect, seeing the arc that he’s gone through, he now realizes that all of the fights in his life have always been the same fight - the anti-fascist fight, the anti-oppression fight, and that you can’t run away from it. That’s what that line means now and, even if not what we might’ve initially expected it to. I quite love it. Lenin’s Nemik’s manifesto played a big role, and it’s when I really got the angle they were going for. Great show.
I get the what Octorox is feeling about Andor missing the escapism of Star Wars and Empire. The way I see it, I guess a more in universe perspective, but I kind of associate the fairy tale and space opera aspects of Star Wars with the Jedi and the Force. The Force is magic, and Jedi are wizards. During these dark times, the magic is dead and the wizards are all gone. It is bleak because that spirituality, faith, and hope has been snuffed out. While it might not have a great ring to it, this is why I think A New Hope works well as a subtitle for the original Star Wars film. With Obi-Wan and Luke, the mysticism is returning and the universe comes into form as a space fantasy.
For me, that is how I feel like you can have a more grounded show like Andor, as well as a fairy tale like the Original Trilogy, and they can coexist fairly well.
And to me, it adds weight to the importance of the Jedi, and they’re importance as a symbol of individuals who can make the impossible happen. Clearly we see this best exemplified with Luke Skywalker in the OT and ST.
I think you’re referring to me, and I never said I don’t think any of those things. I definitely do and tried to make that clear in my previous post - Andor is the thing in Star Wars I’ve been the most excited about in a while, and I’m in love with it. The thing for me is that, again, I just think Star Wars and Empire are better, and with recency bias + the way this is possibly the most mature storytellig in SW ever, it’s easy to jump out and say that this is actually better than those two movies, and I think it’s tremendously unfair to them, because while Andor is very, very excellent TV, they’re two of the best movies ever made, and I still don’t think it quite compares. The escapism bit was just me defending the more lighthearted nature of those movies in light of how much more serious we can go with the setting as shown here. Anyway…
Awesome show, loved everything, really absolutely every single thing… I think the only thing that got close to even remotely bothering me was Bix saying “caf” in that first or second episode, lol. Something out of 90s EU, which should’ve remained 90s EU.
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