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#1283202
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Star Wars Episode II: The Approaching Storm (Finished!)
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Yes, right after the chase scene we still see Obi-Wan with Anakin’s lightsaber. While it’s very brief, I think some people will notice. So if V6 eventually does happen, if the lightsaber could be painted out from Obi-Wan’s hand, that’d be great.

Another small thing I feel I should point out in the wake of V6 talks and whatnot, is to ask if the audio transition from the first Anakin/Padmé kiss to Kamino could be smoothed out a bit more. Maybe extend the shot a little bit so that the music can come to its original, more natural abrupt ending?

No big deal for either of these, but it’d be cool if those two small things could be improved nonetheless.

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#1283201
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Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

Cthulhunicron said:

Buzzfeed just reported that a script has been completed for a KOTOR movie.

Don’t trust Buzzfeed.

DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

Omni said:

OutboundFlight said:

How so?

I think there’d be too many expectations from a lot of people that’d potentially ruin the films whichever way they go.

I’d be all in for more personal stories set during the Clone War, I think it’d really do wonders for that time period. We get some of it from the TV shows, but nothing actually good.

But yeah if they want to stay away from the main saga at all costs I think the old republic era is definitely the most logical pick. I really don’t want it to be a Jedi story though, I think it’d be cool to see more Rogue One-like films.

You say there’d be too many expectations, but the Clone Wars has an even greater chance of “offending” people as it is directly connected to the films. And while I love the era there are many OT fans who don’t want to return to the PT, and I respect that… TOR is a fresh start for everyone.

I think about it like the MCU. You have a ton of comics/books/games on the era, and the producers are now free to tell their own story. Most complaints regarding the ST from fans has been towards inconsistent writing (agree or disagree). But by adapting characters you would be more in an MCU position.

Man, the MCU is a lot of things but I don’t think I would ever say that it has “consistent writing.” The less SW can be like the MCU the better honestly (and I love the MCU).

Well, one thing you have to admit is how happy and united the fandom is. A consistent vision is my stab at the answer to that. While any piece of new SW material will divide people. I was convinced Endgame would divide people for providing a definitive ending… but that’s not the case.

I couldn’t care less whether the fandom is divided or not. I care about the quality of the movie. People love Endgame but that’s because they created the film in such a way that their main goal was fan service/not making fans mad. I think that’s a poor way to approach a film when it’s at the expense of the story (which I’d argue is the case with that film). But anyway, fans don’t care and eat it up. That’s why it’s well received, not because the MCU has a “consistent vision” which is a claim that has no basis in reality.

The big reason Endgame worked for me is that most of the characters got resonant, consistent conclusions to their arcs. I guess that could be called fanservice, since it’s something that fans of the characters wanted to see. This is in Stark contrast to, for example, the final season of Game of Thrones. Since the showrunners were supposedly working off of the author’s own notes I can only assume that the story beats were what Martin intended when he handed them off, but the rushed execution resulted in character arcs which became incoherent or dropped entirely by the end of the show. It’s the case of story over character, and it is much worse than the Endgame approach of character over story. I think the ST so far also has this problem (with TLJ being the worst offender so far) to the point that almost every major character is uncoupled from their defining flaw or trauma when it is convenient to the story.

When I say Endgame priotized fan service over story, understand that I consider character to be at least half of what makes a story. I would actually say Thrones is a perfect comparison to Endgame, where the conclusions make sense for the characters in a broad sense but none of the legwork is put in to make them feel earned or satisfying. The only glaring difference being that the MCU has never been all that invested in consistent and clear character development, whereas Thrones has always been very granular and gradual in that regard so descending into mostly spectacle only ends up feeling wrong for one of them (the other difference being that the MCU conclusions are crowd pleasing).

I’d say they both make TLJ seem like a masterpiece of character work in comparison (which is not necessarily something I would call it). TLJ is the only of the three that actually seems to take any interest in putting time into coherent character progression.

Agreed. TLJ’s fatal flaw to me is that I can’t, no matter how hard I try, get behind Rey. It’s of course due to her very unearned and unbelieavable force powers, IMO. It’s the only major problem I have with the movie - which I’ve come to the conclusion is the consequence of two things: the lack of a time gap between the TLJ and TFA (RIP suspension of disbelief that’d always been there for the saga to make us believe in off-screen progress throughout the years) and TFA’s portrayal of her. Sure TLJ took it even further, but it all started in TFA.

Still, her character progresses. One thing I’d understand people criticizing TLJ on is that it re-utilizes some of the very same arcs from TFA. Rey’s works very well, especially due to so little time having passed between the two films and the expansion on the ‘belonging’ aspect of her character. Finn’s character arc, for me, works well too. In TFA, he grew from running away to fighting for something bigger than himself - his friends. In TLJ, he goes from fighting for something bigger than himself but still something that mattered ‘only’ to him to fighting for something bigger than every one person can be - a cause. Poe’s arc in this movie is wonderful, and it’s the only part of the film where I don’t understand so many anger towards. I mean sure you can pick it apart, and criticize military strategy or whatever, but… ah whatever. Rose had a very nice character arc as well, going from the naive girl that believes in the black and white world to someone that finally sees grey and the reality and sadness of war, understands the cost and yet still believes in good. Unfortunately her character is part of a scene I dislike very much (“Not fighting what we hate - saving what we love”.) due to me believing Finn would’ve been able to take down the cannon while sacrificing himself and fulfilling his character arc, but oh well. He does have to be alive for the sequel, I guess.

Luke’s character arc in the film is definitely the cherry on top. I’m not really a fan of how it was set up, and I don’t fully buy what happened between him and Ben, but Hamill’s acting sells it enough for me to be able to fully enjoy the deconstruction of his character to his very core and the arc’s eventual fulfillment, in the most beautiful shot of the film.

Despite TLJ being far from a favorite of mine, I do not see where in the film do any characters “lack their defining flaw because plot”. I’d love to hear you expand on that, NeverarGreat. I don’t watch GOT so I can’t talk about that, but I saw Endgame as the ‘perfect’ ending to every one of the characters, Tony being the highlight due to being the best developed MCU character by a country mile. Cap also had a great sendoff and I quite liked Thor in the film, except for how some of the humor around him worked and all that. The other characters aren’t really worth mentioning I don’t think, because nothing really big happens to them. Maybe Black Widow but she didn’t really change that much in spite of everything that happened.

Edit: I probably derailed the thread pretty bad. Sorry OP and mods.

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#1283184
Topic
Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Octorox said:

There’s also the l8wrtr order:

[Anakin and Obi-Wan make up and Obi-Wan boards the Star Destroyer] > [Anakin and Padmé in apartment] > [Obi-Wan banters with Cody and takes off in his Fighter] > [Sunset Palpatine office scene] > [Obi-Wan arrives on Utapau]

It sounds like it would be jarring but it actually works quite well in his edit.

+1 for this. It’s at least worth a shot, IMO.

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#1283095
Topic
STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Telion said:

coupled with the blue/cyan tint present in all the special edition blu-rays

This isn’t completely true. Return of the Jedi’s blu-ray has actually much less blue than the original version did in several scenes, but in most shots yes, there’s a blue tint over the film.

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#1283094
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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This is kind of crazy to me. There are so many fair points to complain and discuss about on TLJ and people choose to stress over bombs? It’s not even a good nitpick. It’s so, for the lack of a better word, and apologies in advance if offending anyone, stupid. I don’t know what went through those people’s heads when watching the movie but I’m glad it didn’t happen in mine.

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#1282800
Topic
Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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Jesta’ said:

adywan said:

Jesta’ said:

How would you people feel if Disney released the OOT in glorious 4K and then Lucas bought back the franchise and made a proper Sequel Trilogy?

There already is a proper sequel trilogy.

Sort of. Star Wars isn’t really Star Wars without George at the helm IMHO

That’s an interesting discussion. I kimd of agree, but for example:

I notice Harley Quinn is your avatar here. I take it you’re a Batman fan, right? So, is Batman really Batman without Bob Kane and Bill Finger? Is Paul Dini eligible to write Batman stories and whatnot? So Rian Johnson should be eligible to write a Star Wars film, no?

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#1282300
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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Very well, thanks for the reply and for all the effort. In case of financial trouble I (and other members, certainly) volunteer to help cover the costs. $10k is quite a bit of money.

And from my understanding, Team Negative1 has no TPM prints, so… with several Star Wars and other media projects being worked on right now by the team, I doubt 4K99 is a priority.

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#1281789
Topic
Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a new version of this scene, with the music in much better shape. I used left and right channels to fill in the center whenever there is no dialogue or non-traffic foley, in order to only have one innocuous crossfade of the musical score. Sounds much better.

https://vimeo.com/336494390
password: fanedit

By the way, concerning this scene, something that’s always distracted me is how in the last shot the water fountain’s noise suddenly comes in really loud, despite not being there for every other shot in the scene. I wonder if it annoys anyone else? And if so, if it’s fixable/worth the effort?

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#1281782
Topic
Lucasfilm's movie plans post Ep. IX
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OutboundFlight said:

How so?

I think there’d be too many expectations from a lot of people that’d potentially ruin the films whichever way they go.

I’d be all in for more personal stories set during the Clone War, I think it’d really do womders for that time period. We get some of it from the TV shows, but nothing actually good.

But yeah if they want to stay away from the main saga at all costs I think the old republic era is definitely the most logical pick. I really don’t want it to be a Jedi story though, I think it’d be cool to see more Rogue One-like films.

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#1281645
Topic
Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Hal 9000 said:

About “General Skywalker.” That title is nowhere in the films and, while it’s plausible, I just don’t see benefit in tossing it in there. It’s appropriate for Anakin to be something of “the learner” and Anakin moves along in this film as someone deeply accustomed to be something of a slave. He and Obi-Wan are both knights, but he’s certainly newer at it.
Anakin having a padawan of his own prior to Episode III never felt right to me, personally.

100% with you here. I love The Clone Wars but it never felt like a bridge between AotC and RotS to me. I’ve always imagined that it’s its own thing, in sort of a parallel universe. Clone Wars (2003), on the other hand… but enough derailing the thread.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m afraid I am not having any luck with removing Palpatine’s lines about the Jedi killing “all the senators” and Anakin believing the Jedi will move against the Senate. The rear channels are free of dialogue… some of the time, but not during a critical shot. The music playing at that point does not appear on the soundtrack, either. I can’t do anything further than I already have with that conversation without making a big mess out of the music. Hopefully in this version we can somewhat believe that Anakin is choosing to believe these things about the Jedi.

Do you consider using stuff from “The Ultimate Edition” of the soundtrack which can be found on YouTube? You may be able to find the isolated music for the scene you’re looking for there.