NeverarGreat

Lifeincontext said:

NeverarGreat said:

Lifeincontext said:

• Scene 1: Rey: Day in the Life (because the transition from stars is just so dang good)

Is this the transition you’re referring to? (Password: fanedit)

Overall, I like the idea behind this edit. The Luke and Rey story is the strongest completed aspect of this trilogy since Finn has been tragically dumped by the wayside, so focusing on that makes a lot of sense.

What would the crawl of such a film look like?

Yes! Very much so. It’s like…why wasn’t it that way to begin with?

So for right now, I’m thinking of making it more its own standalone thing, so it wouldn’t have the standard episode crawl. It may have something Solo or Blade Runner-esque. But since it’s (kind of?) part of the Skywalker Saga…I’m open to other opinions lol.

Also, you said overall. I’m curious to see what changes you think will really work and what things you might not agree with?

Well for the TFA section I don’t know how you would delay the Ben Solo reveal unless you heavily edited the interrogation like in DigMod’s edit. Personally I don’t think it quite works.

Also, Ben’s redemption comes pretty much out of nowhere in TROS so it would probably feel extra strange at the end of TLJ after he has doubled down on villainy. I would also like to include that scene in some capacity, but have no idea how it would work.

Lifeincontext said:

• Scene 1: Rey: Day in the Life (because the transition from stars is just so dang good)

Is this the transition you’re referring to? (Password: fanedit)

Overall, I like the idea behind this edit. The Luke and Rey story is the strongest completed aspect of this trilogy since Finn has been tragically dumped by the wayside, so focusing on that makes a lot of sense.

What would the crawl of such a film look like?

They have different costumes and hairstyles, so probably not.

Hal 9000 said:

It’s probably because they had some footage of takes of Leia handing and being handed the saber.

We’ve got a winner.

specialk2121 said:

NeverarGreat said:

idir_hh said:

Continuity error with Rey and the saber.
https://i.redd.it/0eju4uoy3jy41.jpg

This has ruined the movie for me.

Really? To me this is no different than Luke leaving the Death Star without his lightsaber and somehow magically having it on Endor to celebrate.

It was sarcasm.

idir_hh said:

Continuity error with Rey and the saber.
https://i.redd.it/0eju4uoy3jy41.jpg

This has ruined the movie for me.

omnimuffin said:

NeverarGreat said:

StarkillerAG said:

I can’t imagine having such a violent reaction to what’s basically the cinematic equivalent of a ride at Coney Island, but you do you I guess.

Perhaps I was being a wee bit hyperbolic just then.

But really, a random movie being bad is fine, and even expected. But most random movies also don’t promise to be the epic culmination of forty-three years of storytelling and mythic adventure for at least three generations. As a point of similarity, Season 8 of Game of Thrones managed to vaporize all the interest and goodwill built up over the previous seven seasons instantly, and TROS is GOT Season 8 on steroids.

Is it, though? There’s a good chunk of the population that very much enjoyed TROS. NOBODY actually enjoyed the back half of GOT Season 8.

I’ve seen people defend both, actually, but all of it that I’ve seen has been coming from a place of defensiveness. It’s all subjective of course and it doesn’t really have anything to do with fanediting so let’s try and circle back around to that 😉

StarkillerAG said:

I can’t imagine having such a violent reaction to what’s basically the cinematic equivalent of a ride at Coney Island, but you do you I guess.

Perhaps I was being a wee bit hyperbolic just then.

But really, a random movie being bad is fine, and even expected. But most random movies also don’t promise to be the epic culmination of forty-three years of storytelling and mythic adventure for at least three generations. As a point of similarity, Season 8 of Game of Thrones managed to vaporize all the interest and goodwill built up over the previous seven seasons instantly, and TROS is GOT Season 8 on steroids.

So I watched TROS again a couple of days ago and took some notes as to potential edits:

• Since Kylo is oddly communing with Vader’s mask after Palps tells him he’s been ‘every voice in his head’, it might work to place this scene right after the opening crawl. The mask could be Vader telling him exactly where to find the wayfinder on Mustafar. Cut to him slaughtering the Cultists.

• As a benefit to moving Kylo’s mask communing scene, Rey’s training montage could be uninterrupted by Kylo. Just show her vision, preferably cut like Dom’s proof of concept. Also, have Rey merely say ‘I’m starting to think it’s impossible’ and cut the ‘contact the spirits of the Jedi’ since that is implied.

• Cut line from Leia saying she always knew Palps was out there, especially in a Rey Nobody edit.

• Cut Rey’s line explaining her healing powers. Show, don’t tell.

• Obviously, Chewie’s survival reveal should be delayed or cut. I would argue for it being cut entirely since the music in that scene doesn’t work anyway.

• Cut Luke’s line ‘You’ll take both sabers’. We see them both later anyway, and if Leia’s becomes purple then it’s obvious.

• Shift the arrival of the Resistance until after Rey meets Palpatine.

I stopped taking notes after this point because I became violently bored and started flipping the bird at everything that was happening. I don’t think I’ll be watching this movie again in its entirety, since now even the humorously terrible things are no longer humorous to me.

I also realize after seeing it again that it’s highly unlikely any Palpatine as illusion plot would work since he is unmoored from the mechanical arm by the end.

I like D. 😉

Have Rey become old and wrinkled under Sheev’s lightning attack so that she looks like the old woman at the end of TROS.

“Who are you?”
“Rey.”
“Rey who?”
“Rey you.”

OutboundFlight said:

Alternatively, the FO could be destroying the Republic as a mass-sacrifice to enable Palpatine’s return. I remember something like this in SWTOR.

“Sacrifice”

doc_faustus said:

HD Numerique comparisons
https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/822-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-star-wars-iv.html
https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/823-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-star-wars-v.html
https://www.hdnumerique.com/dossiers/824-test-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-star-wars-vi.html

From these comparisons, it appears that the 2020 version of ESB has been cropped quite a bit from the 2011 version. Is this accurate?

Buxom Hux

Snoke Nobody

The mistake was already made in ESB when they decided to give Yoda a variant of the desert attire.

Is there a way that we can see all of the options for the questions? I ask only because many of the questions look identical due to them being cut off.

Yes, I do hope you stick around. Your contributions are far more than just your renderings, though they are of course excellent.

-Evan

^

ChainsawAsh said:

And I’m surprised at how much I’m into the “illusion Palpatine” idea but am not convinced at all that it can be successfully pulled off in an edit.

I wouldn’t count it out, after all the ability on these forums keeps going up and I’d say there only need to be a half dozen effects shots to make it work:

-Stone box on Mustafar being disguised as a boulder
-Wayfinder in Death Star disguised as a pillar
-Tendril-like life drain from Sith Cultists to Palpatine
-Image of crystal revealed to Rey beneath Palpatine’s illusion
-Breaking of crystal with lightning
-Crystal fragments strewn across the floor

And maybe some new dialogue from Palps to Pryde

Another reason I like the idea is that it concludes the meta commentary on the fan base that TFA consciously or unconsciously began in 2015. Now the presence of Palpatine and Rey Palpatine can merely be a comment on the desires arising from some corners of the fanbase without actually forcing them into the story where they don’t belong.

I know many people are eager to remove Rey Palpatine, but I fear that in so doing they remove a lot of what I will call ‘wtf factor’ that makes the ST fun as an experiment in shlock (this is the only way I enjoyed TROS). In the end the film will feel lighter and less interesting for never even countenancing this bad idea. But with Fake Sheev the film can have its cake and eat it too.

JEDIT: The connection between the wayfinders and the Sith Crystal could be indicated through sound design. Have a similar distinctive hum or resonance whenever Rey or Kylo is in their presence, and continue this same sound when they confront Palps. It might just be in the background through most of the fight, but after the Jedi aid her Rey’s senses could be augmented enough to hear this sound and identify its source. Have Luke’s voice saying “Breathe. Just breathe. Now reach out…what do you see?”

^Exactly! He drains Rey and Kylo to power the Big Sparkly.

I figure that the crystal would just be a way to draw the two most powerful Force users in the galaxy into a trap where they would be either turned or drained, and Rey Palpatine is bait. That the whole Rey Palpatine plot feels so wrong simply feeds into the understanding that it was fabricated by the cultists. Of course, they could have galactic plans for the Palpatine illusion, but once they’ve drawn Rey and the Resistance into their web the galaxy is basically theirs for the taking.

I don’t know how such a plan would be elaborated on unless it was in the scene where Pryde talks to the Palpatine hologram. I suppose that dialogue could be changed with the removal of the Death Star weapons plot to indicate that Pryde is a cultist who is in on the whole thing. Maybe this is the scene that reveals Palpatine to be an illusion, so we know going into the final confrontation that Rey and Kylo are being tricked.

Yeah, Snoke being the Sith Cult leader would actually be great and give him the backstory that he was lacking in TFA.

I figure the dyad would be something that is independent of the Sith plans, regardless of the edit since it was that way in the original. If anyone has a better idea I’m open to it, though.

The life force drain effect could flow from the Sith Cultists in the arena towards Palpatine as a sort of constant, barely perceptible effect in a couple shots throughout the film. I imagine that their combined Force suffices to power the crystal and the Palpatine illusion. That way the Force drain becomes an organic part of the operation of the crystal instead of a tacked-on ability like in the original film.

idir_hh said:

It’s quite a compelling idea.
That makes the main antagonist of the ST the Sith Cultists? Right?

Yes, if Snoke is just a powerful Sith cultist, though TFA and TLJ could still be Snoke Nobody. 😉

Hal 9000 said:

Lengthy exposition breaks spoken by each Wayfinder when they are revealed.

Yet again, I think you’re accidentally onto something Hal. 😉

The illusion aspect of the central crystal could be mirrored in the wayfinders. For example, the stone container holding the first wayfinder could at first appear like a simple boulder, but a voice whispers in Kylo’s head and the illusion is removed. Similarly for Rey’s wayfinder, the pillar could enclose the entire thing until she reaches within it to extract the tetrahedron.

In the final confrontation, Rey would call upon the spirits of the Jedi to be with her and they would help remove the Sheev illusion to reveal something like a big, much more important-looking wayfinder. This would link them all and explain the illusion without ever needing dialogue.

Y’all clearly still haven’t considered the benefits of Sheev as a giant Sith Crystal.

• Invention of the Sheev illusion by the cultists serves as a dark counterpoint to Luke’s illusion on Crait
• Requires only knowledge and defense to see through the illusion
• Can be destroyed by Rey’s lightning
• Removes Sheev as a living entity
• Can include Rey Palpatine as part of the illusion
• Better explains the destruction of the Sith arena
• Can organically set up Force sucking ability through the Cultists powering the crystal

but of course the biggest benefit is:

• Giant crystal = cool

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.