Then I won’t worry about it. 😃
I will have to take out the camera rig, as well as remove some of the ceiling and maybe some of the man to the left of Han if he enters shot. The worst bit of this shot will probably be when Han’s face goes half-behind the camera rig. I’ve never had to do that level of reconstructive surgery.
Well if anyone wishes to continue the project or any other which incorporates these ideas, you will have my blessing.
True.
Looks pretty fun!
I vividly recall my first viewing of ROTS and being on board with Palpatine whispering in Anakin’s ear about how the Jedi are flawed and the Dark Side could grant good effects if only the Jedi would allow them. I thought it was a really smart way to go about Anakin’s turn.
But then we get to Mace’s death scene and all of that goes out the window as Anakin cartoonishly pledges himself to Monster Mash and vows to murder all the children. It’s just so out of left field that I mentally checked out and threw the prequels in the garbage because of that scene.
So if this change were to be achieved, it’s not hyperbole to say that for me it would almost single-handedly save the prequels.
Speaking of small details, does anyone still know what the intercom voice says here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKs0iI68Rx8&t=30s
I have some idea but I still don’t know for sure what he says.“Media Squad, prep your team and check any power (powdered?) supplies.”
Maybe. The sounds change based on what I’m expecting to hear.
That’s a tough one. I couldn’t make out anything at first, but now think NeverarGreat is very close.
- “… squad, prep your team and check …” sounds spot on.
- “Media” has the right sound, but the context doesn’t fit. Due to the sudden cut to this scene, perhaps there’s something before the “edia” sound that was lost in the editing?
- My ears hear different vowel sounds (as well as a different rhythm) at the end: I don’t think it’s “power supplies”, but confess not to have a better suggestion at present.
Someone once suggested it’s meteor squad but I don’t know if that makes any more sense.
Meteor does sound more correct from a Star Wars perspective. I was trying to figure out what that first word was and came up with ‘Phoenix’, but Meteor does sound best.
Well in the mockup I posted, I only replaced two window panes with the BTS footage. In the left front window you can just see in the shadows the ESB cockpit door. The door is repeated in the BTS footage behind Han, which means that the perspective is shifted a good meter or so to the right at the back of the cockpit. I could line up the perspective more accurately, but if I do that then Han’s face is obscured by a window pane. Notice also that part of the BTS cockpit is curving down from the ceiling into the window area, which would need to be fixed.
So basically, I had to misalign the shots to create an acceptable composition. If I had a more straight-on view, the misalignment could be sold more easily.
If it’s not a big deal to anyone I could go ahead and work from this, but it’s not entirely ideal.
The implication here could be that Rey might have left it specifically for Finn before being taken by Leia rather than Leia having the other one from the outset. Either way, it’s just a fun thing for sharp eyes to notice for the two seconds it’s in frame.
Also, just a reminder that I’m still on the lookout for HQ reference images of the Falcon cockpit.
Going back through the thread, here’s an idea that I forgot about until today and decided to implement:
“Media Squad, prep your team and check any power (powdered?) supplies.”
Maybe. The sounds change based on what I’m expecting to hear.
As an insider, I completely agree.
Um, what?
Exactly. The Force can be with anyone at any time; microscopic life forms in the blood are a reductive and quite frankly destructive element which constrains the Force to practical irrelevance in its own story.
The expendable design makes more sense, and is in line with the philosophy of the Empire military! I had always found the hyperdrive ring on the Jedi fighter kinda stupid: if it gets destroyed after you leave it behind, you become stranded and have to call for help…
I though it just stayed in orbit or in deep space until the fighter returned? Or is that an EU thing maybe? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen/read that the fighters can return and use them again.
Perhaps they were saying that enemy forces could destroy the rings, not that they are single-use.
As for the concept, I think it’s neat to be able to shed excess weight for increased maneuverability, something that Jedi pilots would probably prefer. I also think there are plenty of ways these rings would be beneficial in a military engagement, especially if the fighters were part of a strike force containing larger ships. The rings could be left adrift around the larger vessels or even remotely operated in order to draw enemy fire. Any hit on the disposable rings would be one less hit on the large vessel.
Even on its own, a hyperspace ring would probably be difficult to track down by enemy forces if left in high orbit or deep space because of its low/nonexistent power signature - they’d basically have to be searching for what amounts to random debris, which is again more time with their attention drawn away from the real Jedi threat.
There might be something usable in the Millennium Falcon ship vid from Disney+?
Unfortunately not, that’s the first place I checked.
I’ve heard back from SirRidley who has kindly allowed me to use their scene recreation of Han hanging the dice (Password: fanedit), so I’m starting work on the uncompleted shot. I think the only workable solution would be to view the action from outside the cockpit and frame it through several of the windows:
Obviously the big camera and other rubbish would have to be removed, as well as changing the background to the ship hangar, but it looks possible.
Anyone who looks at this image for more than a second will notice that the perspective is…off. That’s because the best image I could find of the Falcon cockpit was from this shot of ESB, and the perspective is a bit more right-leaning than in the BTS footage. I also don’t have access to a 4K version of ESB so this was from internet screencaps.
However, I know the community’s knowledge of BTS photos is both wide and deep, so I beseech thee to harness thine mighty powers and tell me if I’m missing that high-res photo of the Falcon cockpit exterior that perfectly matches this angle:
If no such superior image exists, a true 4K still or clip from this shot in ESB would be most helpful. 😃
The “original” Jurassic Park. This stop-motion dinosaur film (which predates even King Kong) is something of a forgotten milestone in cinema.
The Lost World (1925)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGQfgjCXDoU - from the Classic Movie Central YouTube channel (1 hour 42 mins long - 720p)Synopsis:
The first film adaptation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s classic novel about a land where prehistoric creatures still roam.Directed by Harry O. Hoyt.
Cast: Bessie Love, Lewis Stone & Wallace Beery.
Trivia:
This was the first feature-length film to feature stop motion animation as the primary special effect. The effects were done by Willis O’Brien who would in 1933 work on the original King Kong.
Another fun watch! Admittedly some unfortunate parts due to the time period, but the story was well-done and I can even see where the Jurassic Park sequel drew inspiration.
In the context of the high-action scenes preceding it, this feels too slow. Notice how Vader has already entered the space and is examining the bodies even as his theme continues to play, whereas the original has just a few dissonant notes which hold as he investigates the scene and the same musical idea picks up again as he leaves. It just fits the scene much better.
That’s not to say the Imperial March wouldn’t work here at all, just that it would need to be a shorter, sharper sting. It would also need to be propagated throughout the film with increasing depth and modulation to really act as Vader’s theme.
Also axe “green” because it’s speciesist.
Are you suggesting we show the films from Han’s POV, with just sound during his thawing and a gradually resolving image throughout the palace and sail barge scenes?
I could get behind that.
Return of the Jedi is the best for all the reasons.
Batman vs Superman: The Rise of Skywalker is the worst.
Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.
Honestly that’s no worse than who it actually was.
Yeah, they’re almost interchangeable. I think Han would be slightly worse due to the love triangle being unresolved and the fact that the other Force sensitive person was just another dude.
I don’t think making Leia Luke’s sister to resolve the love triangle is really a plus in favor of that.
That’s true.
Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.
Honestly that’s no worse than who it actually was.
Yeah, they’re almost interchangeable. I think Han would be slightly worse due to the love triangle being unresolved and the fact that the other Force sensitive person was just another dude.
Imperial March in ANH is a no for me simply because it overshadows the subtle, minor-villain musical theme that Williams establishes for Vader in that film.
Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.
And make his name change the result of him mysteriously losing his Spice Freighter navigator father when he was but a wee lad.
Out of Darkness
If I was making a TROS edit that changed the title, I’d unironically pick this one. Both for the sentence thing and to purposefully reference Abrams’ other terrible sci-fi franchise sequel that brings back a classic villain in a bad way and has the protagonist come back to life at the end.
Then you’re in the right place.
