NeverarGreat

Going back through the thread, here’s an idea that I forgot about until today and decided to implement:

“Media Squad, prep your team and check any power (powdered?) supplies.”

Maybe. The sounds change based on what I’m expecting to hear.

As an insider, I completely agree.

Um, what?

Exactly. The Force can be with anyone at any time; microscopic life forms in the blood are a reductive and quite frankly destructive element which constrains the Force to practical irrelevance in its own story.

ZkinandBonez said:

Z6PO said:

The expendable design makes more sense, and is in line with the philosophy of the Empire military! I had always found the hyperdrive ring on the Jedi fighter kinda stupid: if it gets destroyed after you leave it behind, you become stranded and have to call for help…

I though it just stayed in orbit or in deep space until the fighter returned? Or is that an EU thing maybe? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen/read that the fighters can return and use them again.

Perhaps they were saying that enemy forces could destroy the rings, not that they are single-use.

As for the concept, I think it’s neat to be able to shed excess weight for increased maneuverability, something that Jedi pilots would probably prefer. I also think there are plenty of ways these rings would be beneficial in a military engagement, especially if the fighters were part of a strike force containing larger ships. The rings could be left adrift around the larger vessels or even remotely operated in order to draw enemy fire. Any hit on the disposable rings would be one less hit on the large vessel.

Even on its own, a hyperspace ring would probably be difficult to track down by enemy forces if left in high orbit or deep space because of its low/nonexistent power signature - they’d basically have to be searching for what amounts to random debris, which is again more time with their attention drawn away from the real Jedi threat.

GMatias said:

There might be something usable in the Millennium Falcon ship vid from Disney+?

Unfortunately not, that’s the first place I checked.

I’ve heard back from SirRidley who has kindly allowed me to use their scene recreation of Han hanging the dice (Password: fanedit), so I’m starting work on the uncompleted shot. I think the only workable solution would be to view the action from outside the cockpit and frame it through several of the windows:

Obviously the big camera and other rubbish would have to be removed, as well as changing the background to the ship hangar, but it looks possible.

Anyone who looks at this image for more than a second will notice that the perspective is…off. That’s because the best image I could find of the Falcon cockpit was from this shot of ESB, and the perspective is a bit more right-leaning than in the BTS footage. I also don’t have access to a 4K version of ESB so this was from internet screencaps.

However, I know the community’s knowledge of BTS photos is both wide and deep, so I beseech thee to harness thine mighty powers and tell me if I’m missing that high-res photo of the Falcon cockpit exterior that perfectly matches this angle:

If no such superior image exists, a true 4K still or clip from this shot in ESB would be most helpful. 😃

ZkinandBonez said:

The “original” Jurassic Park. This stop-motion dinosaur film (which predates even King Kong) is something of a forgotten milestone in cinema.

The Lost World (1925)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGQfgjCXDoU - from the Classic Movie Central YouTube channel (1 hour 42 mins long - 720p)

Synopsis:
The first film adaptation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s classic novel about a land where prehistoric creatures still roam.

Directed by Harry O. Hoyt.

Cast: Bessie Love, Lewis Stone & Wallace Beery.

Trivia:
This was the first feature-length film to feature stop motion animation as the primary special effect. The effects were done by Willis O’Brien who would in 1933 work on the original King Kong.

IMDb link
Wikipedia article

Another fun watch! Admittedly some unfortunate parts due to the time period, but the story was well-done and I can even see where the Jurassic Park sequel drew inspiration.

In the context of the high-action scenes preceding it, this feels too slow. Notice how Vader has already entered the space and is examining the bodies even as his theme continues to play, whereas the original has just a few dissonant notes which hold as he investigates the scene and the same musical idea picks up again as he leaves. It just fits the scene much better.

That’s not to say the Imperial March wouldn’t work here at all, just that it would need to be a shorter, sharper sting. It would also need to be propagated throughout the film with increasing depth and modulation to really act as Vader’s theme.

Also axe “green” because it’s speciesist.

Are you suggesting we show the films from Han’s POV, with just sound during his thawing and a gradually resolving image throughout the palace and sail barge scenes?

I could get behind that.

Return of the Jedi is the best for all the reasons.

Batman vs Superman: The Rise of Skywalker is the worst.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

JackNapier said:

Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.

Honestly that’s no worse than who it actually was.

Yeah, they’re almost interchangeable. I think Han would be slightly worse due to the love triangle being unresolved and the fact that the other Force sensitive person was just another dude.

I don’t think making Leia Luke’s sister to resolve the love triangle is really a plus in favor of that.

That’s true.

Anakin Starkiller said:

JackNapier said:

Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.

Honestly that’s no worse than who it actually was.

Yeah, they’re almost interchangeable. I think Han would be slightly worse due to the love triangle being unresolved and the fact that the other Force sensitive person was just another dude.

Imperial March in ANH is a no for me simply because it overshadows the subtle, minor-villain musical theme that Williams establishes for Vader in that film.

JackNapier said:

Make Han the other Skywalker that Yoda was talking about.

And make his name change the result of him mysteriously losing his Spice Freighter navigator father when he was but a wee lad.

Neerb said:

Hal 9000 said:

Out of Darkness

If I was making a TROS edit that changed the title, I’d unironically pick this one. Both for the sentence thing and to purposefully reference Abrams’ other terrible sci-fi franchise sequel that brings back a classic villain in a bad way and has the protagonist come back to life at the end.

Then you’re in the right place.

I interpreted it as they were like the Star Wars equivalent of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Luke probably couldn’t even decipher most of it, much less glean any deeper meaning from the words.

The Sequel Duology already forms a complete sentence.

“My powers have doubled since the last time we’ve met.”

“Good. Then I see your schwartz is as big as mine.”

^how horrid.

Yeah, I don’t really get the hate on III. It’s better than II for me.

With Han moving behind the hologram, the most tricky part would probably be re-editing his movement to match his original path around the human actor. Filling in the detail on Han behind the hologram would be made easier by giving the hologram a bit more opacity and letting the details behind it blur a bit. The biggest issue here is that the hologram reacts as if his real tail is stepped-on, so you’d almost certainly have to cut away here regardless.

sade1212 said:

I think the key idea Testing misses is that everyone else knows that some edit ideas have pros and cons, it’s just that they’ve independently made the judgement that the pros outweigh the cons for the specific purpose of their fanedit.

Like Leia’s lightsaber being purple in Ascendant: yes, it does make it less similar to Anakin’s saber and thus perhaps slightly less Skywalker-y if you’re really clutching at straws, but it also a) is a nice tribute to Carrie Fisher, b) better distinguishes the two lightsabers on Exegol so they’re easier to keep track of, c) breaks up the sea of blue on Exegol, d) makes Leia’s saber distinct from Anakin’s in the same way Luke’s green saber is, etc. I wouldn’t use that change for my own fanedit because I generally prefer to stick with canon saber colours, but there are many compelling arguments for it, and having one possible downside doesn’t instantly negate all of those.

At the end of the day, fanedits are alternate versions of the movie. We’re not sat here planning the new Official sequel trilogy Special Editions to forever replace the originals. It doesn’t really matter if someone wants to make a change that you personally think ruins the movie because you don’t have to watch their fanedit. This is all doubly true for ideas like the one Nerevar is floating, where the whole point is that it’s a big change to the movie and the fun is in discussing how it would work and what the ramifications would be - it’s not being proposed as a definite total net improvement that must be implemented. It’s more of a “What if?”.

It’s also extremely condescending to act like any one person’s ideas about the films are the only correct ones. Star Wars has always been somewhat open to interpretation and means lots of different things to different people. This is true of all film (and art in general). It’s not even uncommon for art to resonate with people for reasons entirely unintended by the creators: Data in Star Trek has been seen as a relatable character for autistic people even though he was never written that way deliberately; and similarly Dax’s struggles as a character who used to be in a man’s body but is now in a woman’s body is something trans people relate to, even though that wasn’t necessarily on the writers’ minds in the late 90s. There’s no right answer, and insisting there is and that everyone else must just be stupid is just a really unfortunate lack of empathy.

Even if David Lynch sat down one day and suddenly explained at great length the reasoning behind every decision he’d ever made in his films and TV shows, people would still continue to discuss their own personal take-aways and ideas, right?

Exactly true.

SparkySywer said:

I hate people who engage in self-defense. How pathetic and selfish do you have to be to defend your life?

Lol.