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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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As I said, either approach works for me š
As I said, either approach works for me š
Indeed. I believe I was one of the damn fools who argued for adding the second charging due to it being unrealistic for Poe to let his emotions get in the way of a pointless mission that was already too costly in terms of lives.
This was mere weeks before TLJās release, as I recall.
Yeah, the idea of it being multi-use makes some sense based on the remaining solar material at the end, and it works for me either way.
Of course if it bugs you too much there are other edits that remove the multi-use implication altogether š
If you would like the workprint you have but to ask, however here are some screencaps:






Not at all, Iām happy to get feedback on the work š
Iāve put the Dice scene into the edit, though there remains work to do on that front. Overall however the edit is shaping up and the color grade in in place. Iām pretty pleased with it, but there remain some things still to do, a few miscellaneous notes for small tweaks. The changes are small enough that Iām hoping to get it done pretty quickly and have a final render here afterā¦(checks notes)ā¦four and a half years.
But seriously, Iām running out of things to tinker with, so if anybody finds another deleted scene that must be included, kindly donāt let me know š
Oh, I thought you were physically masking out skin tones and fire and such.
Selective color is something that I use quite heavily in the Jakku grade, but even with fine control and selecting only certain hues at certain saturation/luminance levels itās still really difficult to find settings that knock out the hues of the sand while leaving all of the skin tones and explosions, or at least enough to not look weird. In the end, I found that taking out all the color in the sand shadows would always play havoc with the skin tones, which is why I settled for settings that targeted mostly highlights and high midtones.
Just remove all the opening crawls. Screw it. Let the audience figure it out.
That may actually be a good change, at least for all films but the first in the trilogies.
Oh masking every scene of Jakku would work, but is it worth the trouble for a subtle improvement? To me, not really.
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The link is updated with the background and prettification. I havenāt added glare to the windows yet, but everything else is about done.
Amazing, amazing stuff Nev! That arm reconstruction work is so seamless I had forgotten where the camera covered it up.
One thing I did notice that I should probably point out is that the little piece of metal that Han hangs the dice on seems to slide around quite a bit, might be a good idea to stabilise it in some wayā¦
Definitely planning on it.
In regards to the face though, my suggestion for the simplest solution would probably be to just trim the clip and make do with a little bit of a loss of continuity between shots. Not sure how other people would feel about that though.
I feel like for such an important shot it should go as long as possible, as itās the only one where we see the dice.
Anyway, Iāve updated the mockup to include the work on Hanās face and some scratches on the glass which will be toned down later.
Password: fanedit
The distortions on the face have literally given me a headache, so Iām calling it quits for now. It might be good enough if I put a bit of glare on the windshield near that spot, or it could be chalked up to distortion through the glass. What do you think?
Youāre welcome and thank you for your thoughts!
The Jakku regrade is pushed about as far as I can take it without the washed out grade negatively affecting the explosions and skin tones and such, and so Iām pretty happy with it.
Youāre right, the scene is too contrasted so the interrogation will be toned down in the final version.
Also, Iāve gotten Hanās arm and left shoulder reattached!
Password: fanedit
Now what to do with the faceā¦
Thanks for the update Hal on the state of things. So itās simple, we just need to make Faraday work all night, since sleep is over rated. Also, just hunt down Jonh and convince him actual work, providing for family, etc. is obviously less important than clipping Lukeās hair. Oh, and Nev to work. My goodness! /S
(Of course joking, I just wish I had the tools and the know how to do anything.)
Donāt forget the saber shots! Though if itās just the beginning of the film that is incomplete maybe the effect could be faded in throughout the film to imply a physical degradation of the crystal as well as a mirror of Reyās struggle?
BTW, I vow to the best of my ability not to singlehandedly hold up the project - if itās good to go apart from my last shots Iāll push them to the top of the list. š
Entire cockpit clean, now on to the surgeryā¦
Eh, ESB had Yoda convincingly levitate an X-wing, I donāt think it would have hurt to give Anakin a moment of Force demonstration on that level.
Are we sure thatās higher quality than anything we have, or is he just implying that he got a fan project?
Thatās pretty amazing Nev, nice work! š
Bringing this scene to life now seems like much more of a possibility.
Though not sure what can be done about the temporarily obstructed elbow and face⦠š
Thanks! Iām cautiously optimistic that I can do the reconstructive surgery, but only time will tellā¦
Youāre welcome, glad you liked it so much!
JEDIT: updated the mockup again, now most of the cockpit has been restored.
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Star Wars in 360 degrees. Looks to be 4K77 as well. A trippy time for all.
Iāve been doing some of my own rotoscoping and masking for scenes for my own edits. Iāve shared some early WIPs in this thread. For starters I want to remove the ILM logo watermark from the galaxy fleet charging the star destroyers. Halās ascendant has most of the clip with the watermark removed, but thereās a longer clip of that and I was wondering on how to give that a go.
Which thread should I go to? I canāt seem to find a search feature for these forums⦠sorry
This thread is a good place to start, and though it doesnāt specify TROS Iām sure no one would mind that being included.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-deleted-and-extended-scenes-database/id/51879/page/1
This is also a good general info area, though it again doesnāt include TROS since there are no official deleted scenes for the film so far.
Updated the prior mockup with the shot stabilized and the front console moved down. Next up - removing the camera and crowd.
This implies that JJ cares about anything past ANH where Luke was the galaxy-saving hero.


Oh itās Star Wars related, JJ.

I think if the Vader scene had some lead-up, such as a scene where the Rebels worry about this āVaderā character that seems to be close to discovering their operation, then it would work a lot better. As it is it comes rather out of left field in the context of the film and feels gratuitous in its horror and violence. I wouldnāt say it portrays Vader as a cool badass, but I understand why some would think this way.
In any case, ROās problems are bigger than this one scene.
I havenāt made much progress recently, due to the fact that Iām working in art full-time and unfortunately that takes most of my creative energy. I havenāt forgotten about the project of course, it just might take longer than I originally thought to pull it together.
TLJ had the unenviable job of reconciling the characterization of Luke in TFA of being simultaneously a mere man with some Force power and also the most dangerous and powerful person in the galaxy, capable of singlehandedly saving or destroying empires.
I think making Luke into the cantankerous hermit he became is a fairly deft way of solving the problem, since itās still imperative that Luke not take up too much of the air in the room and leave some for the new cast. Sure, it makes more sense for this Jedi Master to be actively working on a new Jedi Order but the same could be said for Yoda in ESB.
The problem of Luke is one of JJ trying to have his cake and eat it. Luke canāt simultaneously be the savior of the galaxy in perpetuity while also allowing the new heroes to shine. Lukeās death in my opinion was the first chance for the ST to really stand on its own creative feet, and it should have happened in TFA like the death of Obi-wan. Of course JJ couldnāt write an ending to Jenga so we got TROS, but the chance for greatness was there, set up by Rianās necessary choice.
I think one of the main reasons there arenāt more good prequels is that they work best when recontextualizing the world, characters, or events of the original film in a way that makes them better in hindsight. However, if the film badly needs this recontextualization it usually wouldnāt be a good enough film to financially or creatively warrant any prequel or sequel. This leaves making prequels to successful, self contained stories that have narratively ended which almost always ends up lessening the impact of the original, not improving it.
Also, people are usually really drawn to the characters and world of the original films, which is why they would be interested in making prequels to them, and this means that unless theyāre a madman like George they wonāt significantly change the world or characters resulting in flat or nonexistent arcs like the monolithically powerful Rebellion in RO compared to later films.