I’m rendering another version out now.
JEDIT: complete.
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The only thing missing is the TIE fighters, but I’m not sure what the plan for that was at the time.
I was just thinking about the size of the Clone Army in AOTC, and realized that we have all the information required for some quick calculations.
In the film, 200,000 clones are ready to be deployed.
Soon after, 1,000,000 clones will join them.
In the crawl, it is established that several thousand planets have declared their intentions to leave the Republic. Taking this at its dictionary definition of more than two, let’s say conservatively that this is 3,000 planets.
If the Republic wages a war on these 3,000 fronts simultaneously, at the outset of the war it can send only 66.6 clones to each planet. At the height of the war, it will only be able to send 400 to each planet.
To put this in perspective, China’s military boasts 2,800,000 soldiers.
Conclusion: China has a stronger military than the entire Galactic Republic at its height.
I don’t find the unpredictability be true, at least in terms of the Star Wars prequels. This implies that the writer considered the implied contours of the prequel story based off of the originals and then intentionally went in a surprising direction. However, most of my issues with the prequels are that they are far too predictable.
Is Yoda the most powerful Jedi in the OT? Better make him the leader of the entire Jedi Order in the prequels. And give him a lightsaber, because Jedi have lightsabers. And make all the Jedi wear desert cloaks all the time, because that’s what Obi-wan wore on Tatooine.
Are the Clone Wars the major threat in the PT? Better make it a single war and make Palpatine be behind it because he’s the villain. And did you think that the clones would be the bad guys? Ha, no they’re actually good! Until they are bad, just as we all assumed, but because of computer chips or some contrived bullshit.
Did Anakin become more monstrous over the course of the films as he gradually lost his humanity to wounds and emotional scars? Oh he lost an arm once, something that is never mentioned again, and then fell in lava and was put in the monster suit twenty minutes later.
Was Boba Fett cool? Uh yeah, cool enough to be the basis for all the clones. And we get to see him as a kid, isn’t that great?!
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And in most cases, the OT implies a far more interesting history than even exists in the prequels.
Was Anakin turned to the dark side because of the evils of the Clone Wars? Nah, he had other issues.
Did Owen know and care about Anakin’s life? Sure doesn’t look like it.
Did Palpatine take power in some Machiavellian plot to trick the Senate? No, they were just dumb as rocks.
Was Obi-wan a reckless crusading idealist in the Jedi Order who flew too close to the sun? Dude doesn’t even have a tan.
Did Anakin speak hopefully of the future life of his child and his wish for him to become a Jedi? Hah, we ain’t got time for that.
Did Owen and Beru begin their lives on a different planet but then move to Tatooine to get away from the Empire? That would have made sense, but no, they’re still hanging out in the same place that Anakin left them, still with the same names.
Was Anakin the best starpilot in the galaxy? No, but he was pretty good at space Nascar as a kid, I’m sure that’s just as interesting.
Where did C-3PO come from? Well I’m glad you never asked but here’s the answer…
…And these are just the character traits referenced in the OT! Imagine what someone could do with an entire trilogy of new events and characters. Instead we get a first movie with the comedic key of Jar Jar Binks and who was practically written out of the sequel, and a second movie with a mystery plot that got written out of its sequel, then a third movie which hinges for its tragedy on clones with previously unknown computer chips in their brains and an entire Senate and Jedi Order whose brains could have really used the processing power.
I’m planning on TLJ, but not on TROS. Which might be ironic seeing how this edit ties in so well with Rey Palpatine, but it was originally intended merely to give Rey a more conflicted edge. With all due respect to TROS edits, the movie remains unsalvageable to me.
I can definitely put the regrading over whatever footage is provided.
Yes, they will remain.
That Han scene is great! His face isn’t perfect but it’s way better than last time. Such a great addition.
Are you planning on doing anything with the Luke scenes in TROS? I doubt Jonh is gonna come back anytime soon and his haircut clips were mostly finished if I remember, it would be nice to have your regrade over them. And I feel like you could fix any hair glitches seeing the Han dice wizardry.
Thanks! I will happily apply the grade to any of the unfinished shots, but I wouldn’t be trying to further improve them.
Another question Nev: Will you releasing both versions (starlight standard and visions) at the same time?
Visions will be later, when I’ve got more time to devote to the ending. I feel like there’s a stronger musical transition to the credits and I’ve yet to find it.
I think some slight color correction on Han’s skin tones may be needed for the outside cockpit shot. The coloring and compositing does seem a tad bit off there to me.
I’ve done a final pass on the color in the timeline so it looks fairly consistent to me. Sorry I haven’t updated the mockup, but I wanted to save the final version for the release 😃
Milky eyes, that’s the one. 😃
Was wondering, will there be a final workprint 5 before the full release?
Probably not. I’m likely to just make a smaller version of the final to include in the workprint folder for anyone who wants that over the full quality version.
I’m trying to complete the final promised effects for both projects so that they’re done around the same time. I have a deadline set for the first week of November, but this edit’s basically done so now it’s just getting the Ascendant shots done and sent to Hal.
Not to derail the thread, but you’re working on the crackly saber shots, right?
No, just the biomes opening and Rey’s eyes in the vision.
I’m trying to complete the final promised effects for both projects so that they’re done around the same time. I have a deadline set for the first week of November, but this edit’s basically done so now it’s just getting the Ascendant shots done and sent to Hal.
That shot was taken from elsewhere in the Falcon, and SirRidley replaced the background to make it seem like the cockpit. It works perfectly well for me, so I’m disinclined to alter their work.
I know I’ve asked this before, but can’t remember the answer so sorry if you’ve answered it. But has the few “palpatine hints” that are in Hal’s version been added yet? Mainly the palpatine theme and his laugh in the vision sequence.
It keeps slipping my mind, but I have the files so it will go in before final render.
JEDIT: They’re now included 😃
I agree. On it’s own, it’s just a fun bit of nostalgia which I’m sure is why it was cut, but it’s really essential from the wider standpoint.
On that note, here’s my second pass at the face, as well as adjusting the lighting of the shot:
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There’s still a bit of distortion in the face if you look closely, but I’m pretty sure a casual viewer wouldn’t bat an eye since it could be chalked up to natural distortion through the window.
Now all I need to add is the ambient sound for the scene.
Just have a shot of a damaged shuttle emerging from hyperspace towing Kylo in a standard TIE fighter.
I do like the book portrayal of the scene, but it would have been difficult to effectively convey that delirious conversation. Besides, a movie needs action and with scenes like Thufir seeing the Fremen’s ferocity cut, it makes a lot of sense for that fey brutality to be transferred to a character that has already been established.
I for one really liked the Liet Kynes from the new movie, since her character was so much more active than either the Lynch version or the book version. Her death brilliantly used the threat and majesty of the desert power established with her first scene of the spice harvest and gave the sense of a person truly in thrall to and calling upon the religion of Shai Hulud.
Emulating the glow in post sounds like hell, but I wouldn’t put it past modern VFX. In fact, I recall someone doing just that with Palpatine’s face in the scene where he reveals to Anakin he’s the Sith Lord. The result was negligible imo, but only because they were intentional subtle about it. You could easily dial it up.
I know, right? Why would you go through all that work to produce no visible result?!
The whole TIEs don’t have hyper drives thing is something that the OT put as a flaw in the first place. How would a rebel group have access to military tech equipment in their fighter craft that’s more advanced than the state of the art, well equipped empire. That just doesn’t make sense in the first place.
I don’t see the problem with having a few dozen highly equipped fighters going against numberless waves of cannon-fodder, just as Rebel soldiers tend to outmatch Stormtroopers one-to-one but are quickly overwhelmed by numbers. That seems very Empire to me. It would be stranger if TIEs had hyperdrives, honestly.
That is acceptable.
Sick burn.
I think the movie needed more Max Rebo. Hal, I won’t accept this edit until you put his top Beskar hits in the credits.
Due to its practical utility and irresistible appeal, give every named character in the saga a lightsaber.
I turned off the window scratches layers and some lighting effects to focus on the face - kinda hard to see it properly otherwise.
That still only counts as one vote.
I’m going back to the drawing board for Han’s face…literally.
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It’s actually quite helpful as a guide, we’ll see how the finished product looks.