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- The Last Jedi: Stoic Edition (WIP)
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I warn you not to become drunk with power - there are many ways in which that tool can fail.
I warn you not to become drunk with power - there are many ways in which that tool can fail.
The Biomes shot to its credit does extend the back of the shot to linger on and move across more of the lava fields, something which has been cut from this sequence to make room for the forest flyover. But yeah, I also don’t have RO memorized and didn’t realize how close it was.
Brilliant! It looks perfect to me as-is.
You know, after looking at the sequence 40 million times, does the forest shot look a little more - I dunno, orangey? - than the castle shot? Like, the smoke and clouds in the castle shot are on the greyish end, whereas the forest-shot clouds and the sky in the Kylo shot are a bit more colorful.
I say this after watching the scene I don’t know how many times, and also on a screen that doesn’t have the best colors in the first place, so take it with a grain of salt.
Yep, the TIEs over forest shot is brighter and more orange than the surrounding footage, at least the shots before and after it. I tried to correct the Biomes shot to the more pinkish color of the planet and the dominant colors in the Kylo fighting shot, but the forest does throw that a bit.
Thanks!
What makes this better (worse?) is that the phrase ostensibly has nothing to do with actual religion.
One thing I just noticed - the scene has a lot less yellow than the surrounding shots, does it look that way on the timeline as well?
As I said in our PM, it’s very much okay.
If anyone is in a position to add TIEs to that shot to match the audio, feel free. Any speck removal can be done to the resultant footage, so no need to wait.
The link again is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MRUglJE0jJH57_tJFMYWTDS95KStwtSJ/view?usp=sharing
Granted the addition of TIEs would be great, but would it be possible to just move the sound to the very end of the biomes shot to act as a bridge between that and the TIE forest flyover?
No, I decided that SirRidley’s scene worked just fine without them since I managed to rescue the critical shot to an acceptable level.
Here’s another version, shaving 24 frames off poppasketti’s shot and extending Nev’s.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MRUglJE0jJH57_tJFMYWTDS95KStwtSJ/view?usp=sharing
Hehe, fair enough! What matters most is what works best but I promise I will lean that way!!!
Betrayal most foul.
What if the forest shot that followed was cut a bit shorter? It seems to linger a bit on the TIEs as they disappear into the distance, so if that was cut out there would be more room for showing the forest in the previous shot.
As for the specks, Maybe there’s an automated tool to clean up film grain that would pick these up? Otherwise I would happily go in and clean them if it meant salvaging the end of the shot.
Anyone else having issues?
Sounds good. I would cut the front end of the shot, personally, since the back end has the hours upon hours of work that was put into the forest 😉
So if we keep one of the establishing shots, would that mean cutting part of the biomes shot or time-ramping it more aggressively to match the audio?
@sherlockpotter: yes, the specks are soot that now flies at about 15x speed.
I’m rendering another version out now.
JEDIT: complete.
password: fanedit
The only thing missing is the TIE fighters, but I’m not sure what the plan for that was at the time.
I was just thinking about the size of the Clone Army in AOTC, and realized that we have all the information required for some quick calculations.
In the film, 200,000 clones are ready to be deployed.
Soon after, 1,000,000 clones will join them.
In the crawl, it is established that several thousand planets have declared their intentions to leave the Republic. Taking this at its dictionary definition of more than two, let’s say conservatively that this is 3,000 planets.
If the Republic wages a war on these 3,000 fronts simultaneously, at the outset of the war it can send only 66.6 clones to each planet. At the height of the war, it will only be able to send 400 to each planet.
To put this in perspective, China’s military boasts 2,800,000 soldiers.
Conclusion: China has a stronger military than the entire Galactic Republic at its height.
I don’t find the unpredictability be true, at least in terms of the Star Wars prequels. This implies that the writer considered the implied contours of the prequel story based off of the originals and then intentionally went in a surprising direction. However, most of my issues with the prequels are that they are far too predictable.
Is Yoda the most powerful Jedi in the OT? Better make him the leader of the entire Jedi Order in the prequels. And give him a lightsaber, because Jedi have lightsabers. And make all the Jedi wear desert cloaks all the time, because that’s what Obi-wan wore on Tatooine.
Are the Clone Wars the major threat in the PT? Better make it a single war and make Palpatine be behind it because he’s the villain. And did you think that the clones would be the bad guys? Ha, no they’re actually good! Until they are bad, just as we all assumed, but because of computer chips or some contrived bullshit.
Did Anakin become more monstrous over the course of the films as he gradually lost his humanity to wounds and emotional scars? Oh he lost an arm once, something that is never mentioned again, and then fell in lava and was put in the monster suit twenty minutes later.
Was Boba Fett cool? Uh yeah, cool enough to be the basis for all the clones. And we get to see him as a kid, isn’t that great?!
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And in most cases, the OT implies a far more interesting history than even exists in the prequels.
Was Anakin turned to the dark side because of the evils of the Clone Wars? Nah, he had other issues.
Did Owen know and care about Anakin’s life? Sure doesn’t look like it.
Did Palpatine take power in some Machiavellian plot to trick the Senate? No, they were just dumb as rocks.
Was Obi-wan a reckless crusading idealist in the Jedi Order who flew too close to the sun? Dude doesn’t even have a tan.
Did Anakin speak hopefully of the future life of his child and his wish for him to become a Jedi? Hah, we ain’t got time for that.
Did Owen and Beru begin their lives on a different planet but then move to Tatooine to get away from the Empire? That would have made sense, but no, they’re still hanging out in the same place that Anakin left them, still with the same names.
Was Anakin the best starpilot in the galaxy? No, but he was pretty good at space Nascar as a kid, I’m sure that’s just as interesting.
Where did C-3PO come from? Well I’m glad you never asked but here’s the answer…
…And these are just the character traits referenced in the OT! Imagine what someone could do with an entire trilogy of new events and characters. Instead we get a first movie with the comedic key of Jar Jar Binks and who was practically written out of the sequel, and a second movie with a mystery plot that got written out of its sequel, then a third movie which hinges for its tragedy on clones with previously unknown computer chips in their brains and an entire Senate and Jedi Order whose brains could have really used the processing power.
I’m planning on TLJ, but not on TROS. Which might be ironic seeing how this edit ties in so well with Rey Palpatine, but it was originally intended merely to give Rey a more conflicted edge. With all due respect to TROS edits, the movie remains unsalvageable to me.
I can definitely put the regrading over whatever footage is provided.
Yes, they will remain.
That Han scene is great! His face isn’t perfect but it’s way better than last time. Such a great addition.
Are you planning on doing anything with the Luke scenes in TROS? I doubt Jonh is gonna come back anytime soon and his haircut clips were mostly finished if I remember, it would be nice to have your regrade over them. And I feel like you could fix any hair glitches seeing the Han dice wizardry.
Thanks! I will happily apply the grade to any of the unfinished shots, but I wouldn’t be trying to further improve them.
Another question Nev: Will you releasing both versions (starlight standard and visions) at the same time?
Visions will be later, when I’ve got more time to devote to the ending. I feel like there’s a stronger musical transition to the credits and I’ve yet to find it.
I think some slight color correction on Han’s skin tones may be needed for the outside cockpit shot. The coloring and compositing does seem a tad bit off there to me.
I’ve done a final pass on the color in the timeline so it looks fairly consistent to me. Sorry I haven’t updated the mockup, but I wanted to save the final version for the release 😃
Milky eyes, that’s the one. 😃
Was wondering, will there be a final workprint 5 before the full release?
Probably not. I’m likely to just make a smaller version of the final to include in the workprint folder for anyone who wants that over the full quality version.
I’m trying to complete the final promised effects for both projects so that they’re done around the same time. I have a deadline set for the first week of November, but this edit’s basically done so now it’s just getting the Ascendant shots done and sent to Hal.
Not to derail the thread, but you’re working on the crackly saber shots, right?
No, just the biomes opening and Rey’s eyes in the vision.
I’m trying to complete the final promised effects for both projects so that they’re done around the same time. I have a deadline set for the first week of November, but this edit’s basically done so now it’s just getting the Ascendant shots done and sent to Hal.