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#667895
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Laserschwert said:

It's the same link posted at the top of this page. And for now it's only a rumour.

To me it sounds too good to be true (three more movies with Han Solo plus an Indy movie that might rectify KOTCS?).

Oh, I thought that it was only the Indy 5 news.

I feel exactly the opposite about Han Solo. To me the character is dead. Didn't KOTCS show how difficult it was to revive an old character?

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#667872
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Yep, and now it's done. The new news is that Han Solo may be back for more than Episode 7: http://www.jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=14102

I don't get it. I thought that he wanted to be done with Star Wars after Jedi. And if he doesn't die in 7, and Luke and Leia stay on, what's the point of casting new characters at all?

I've got a bad feeling about this.

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#667862
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The Force Conquers All - [Completed Short Story/ROTJ Reimagining]
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I hope the last post didn't seem too critical; the way you decided to end Boba is really dramatic. Perhaps Vader's gloating over Boba could be made to include information about Boba's personal code, further reinforcing why he would suddenly work for the rebels. I like how Vader knows Boba's thoughts. It would be a blow to the Rebellion if Vader was able to extract from him their location.

Full speed ahead, I'd say.

JEDIT: You posted chapter 11 fast! I wasn't aware that the ship itself had telepathic abilities. This is shaping up to be an extremely interesting conflict.

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#667737
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STAR WARS EPISODE VII - JEDI DAWN
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Aw, but refilming a movie is cheating.

I recognize that ROTJ is the weakest of the originals, but ESB is my personal favorite, in part because of the reveal. Consider it this way: In order for a sequel to feel like part of a larger story and not be seen simply as a sequel, it will need to contain plot information which is absolutely essential to understanding the nature of the primary conflict, information which was not in any way present in the original movie. In this way, ESB excels. Up until the reveal, it is a sequel in every sense of the word. The reveal changes the nature of the conflict established in ANH, presenting the hero with an insoluble dilemma. Vader ceases to be a simple monster and becomes the personification of the conflict within Luke, and is an assault on his very motivation to be a Jedi. ROTJ satisfactorily concludes this conflict, though it leaves all other conflicts by the wayside or conveniently ends them. This is why I believe that ROTJ is a worthy conclusion to the story of Star Wars: it completes the primary conflict.

If Episode 7 is to succeed as a true continuation of the Star Wars story, it will need to redefine the previous entry in order to allow this entry (ROTJ) to present the insoluble dilemma, which in the case of Star Wars seems to be that ultimate power corrupts absolutely: "Take your father's place by my side" or that evil is more powerful than good: "Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side". This can be accomplished by showing how the New Republic has become just as dictatorial as the Empire, or it could go in the other direction and show how even the best the Rebellion had was not enough to save it from the Empire. I have chosen the latter, as it has the upside of being completely unexpected, like the reveal in ESB. It redefines the weakest of the original trilogy as the masterstroke of a cunning Emperor, and in a stroke it balances the terms of the next engagement, eliminating many heroes to allow for new heroes, and essentially establishing a villain who is greater than any yet faced.

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#667734
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Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
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Thanks, I've never downloaded from the 'spleen or the alt binaries, but I may do so. This is a long term project, so there's no rush for materials. Thank you for the info! I definitely want to try cancelling out the music, so at the very least, we'll have definite proof about whether or not any takes in the LP are exact.

JEDIT: Curse you Frink, stop getting between the poster and my reply! Now it sounds like I'm thanking you!

:P

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#667709
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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stretch009 said:

vacuum said:

crystal skull is not bad, i've seen far worse. i'm happy that harrison keeps going. one of the last big time movie stars.

The Indiana Jones saga should have ended in 1989.   Crystal Skull shouldn't have been made.  'I've seen far worse',  what a great way to convince someone to watch a movie.  

I've seen worse as well. It's called Temple of Doom. What a depressing and annoying waste of time that movie was. At least Crystal Skull did interesting things. Perhaps not good things, but interesting things nonetheless.

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#667707
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STAR WARS EPISODE VII - JEDI DAWN
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I really like the present tense for the crawl as well, however it seems unfitting to talk about events which happened thirty years ago as if they happened yesterday. It would be like saying:

It is a time of civil war. After maiming the Sith Lord Darth Vader in a duel, Obi-wan Kenobi has gone into exile on the remote world of Tatooine. Meanwhile, the Rebel Alliance has won it's first victory against the evil GALACTIC EMPIRE.

While there is nothing technically wrong with this statement, it makes it seem like these two events happen in quick succession. Especially problematic is that Luke and Leia "head into exile", which implies that we will meet up with them a few days after the Endor disaster. I think the first two parts of your crawl do work better though, but it may work better if the last bit was rewritten to say:

Narrowly ecaping the destruction of Endor, the rebel heroes Luke and Leia Skywalker toil in exile, determined to gather new strength in the fight for freedom and justice among the darkening stars....

This way the hinge of time rests on "toil in exile" instead of "head into exile", which can imply as much time as necessary.

I'm glad I've converted you to the Dark Side of the Star Wars sequels; in time, you will call the true Emperor "Master"!

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#667692
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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Well, that was just a quick and dirty correction, as the Death Star turned rather green. Granted that it's not supposed to be as gray as it was in the DVD, but further work is probably in order with that shot. No rotoscoping was done. The removal of unwanted colors was accomplished with selective gamma modifications as well as my method of subtracting the blue bleed.

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#667656
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Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
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I am interested in making a trailer for ANH, and naturally I would like as much of the dialogue as possible to be isolated from the background music. I’m thinking about the Leia Hologram speech in particular. I’ve attempted to use the six channel AC3 file to isolate the vocals, however this is a very imperfect solution.

I’ve also attempted to use the noise reduction tool in Audacity to remove the music in this scene, but it always garbled the voice as well.

There is a way to isolate and eliminate the music in a scene, and this involves having an identical recording of the music which was used in the scene itself (this must be the same recording, not just the same notes). If the music is lined up and the waveforms of the recording are inverted, the two music waveforms will cancel out, leaving the rest of the sounds relatively intact.

My question to all the audiophiles on this forum is this: Does the original LP (or the 93 CD) use PRECISELY the same recording of any of the music in Star Wars? If not, is there any other way to isolate the dialogue?

Thanks!

JEDIT: 1,111th thread!

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#667639
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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Chewtobacca said:

NeverarGreat said:  So perhaps it's time to scuttle this project and start a complete color correction. I would be dissatisfied with releasing any settings which didn't fix the binary sunset or the Death Star explosion, for example.

That's one way to look at it.  Another is to look at the blanket setting as a starting point for someone else's project, like the one You_Too provided for Harmy, in which case it wouldn't matter that certain shots were not perfect.

I don't envy the person who wants to understand my settings. It started out so simple, just a single video layer with about 22 luma and chroma settings to solve every problem in the movie. Ha.

Fast forward a year, and there are over a hundred discrete luma and chroma settings, spread over seven video layers, which together will only minimize certain systemic issues, but leave many scenes and individual shots sorely wanting.

That's what it will look like when it's up and running. I'm just not sure anyone else will want to deal with the confusion.

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#667635
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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frank678 said:

If you are considering scene by scene maybe you should still render a version with these settings as back up. Is there a way to split your source file at the reel changes and render the reels individually with the settings to split the rendering time? 

The problem isn't render time, necessarily. I did just render the entire thing, the only problem was that I was derpy and forgot to disable a single reference image overlaid on the video, so now I've got a still image halfway through the film that hangs on screen for a few seconds. Next weekend I may render it correctly.

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#667607
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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Chewtobacca said:

I was thinking the same thing.  Recreating NeverarGreat's settings in Avisynth would take a long time, and I'm not even sure if it's possible.  The only current option is for someone with a fast computer to purchase Premiere Elements and apply the same settings.

I was thinking about this last night, and I realized that even if somebody else applied these seven video layers to the movie as a global change, shots like the Death Star explosion above would require massive deviation from the settings. The above correction pushed the settings to their limits, and though it was second nature for me to manipulate the settings, it would be a steep learning curve for anyone else to learn about my peculiar settings for a scene-by-scene correction. So perhaps it's time to scuttle this project and start a complete color correction. I would be dissatisfied with releasing any settings which didn't fix the binary sunset or the Death Star explosion, for example.

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#667551
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The Force Conquers All - [Completed Short Story/ROTJ Reimagining]
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Well this is really unexpected...

My conversation idea was really just a random suggestion, but I didn't expect you to fully incorporate it into the story. I'd better be more careful about what I say, though the results were certainly explosive. Poor Boba, we hardly knew ye. He seems so expendable in this situation. I would have expected him to lie in wait for Vader like he waited for the Falcon to show itself, or for him to infiltrate the ship stealthily. I'd expect him to look out for number one.

But moving on, I based Leia's decision to use Boba against Vader on Bingowing's idea that Leia would turn to the Dark Side. If she is Luke's sister, that is. If not, she would be less dangerous, but she could still potentially be ruthless. In any case, she should be written to be much more assertive than in ROTJ.

I'm still kind of in shock that this part of the forum has seen so much activity. Other than sporadic posts by DuracellEnergizer, McFlabbergasty, and yours truly, this place is usually silent as a crypt. Nice to see dramatic progress!

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#667508
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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Chewtobacca said:

NeverarGreat said:  One reason that I've stuck with this method for so long is quite simply the lack of good sources for scenes.

I can help you with the scenes that were changed between 2004 and 2011, but not much else.

Do you mean they changed the color balance of the movie when they released the Blu-ray? I was only aware of the superficial changes such as R2 behind the rocks and the removal of the blue ring around the Death Star explosion, and was under the impression that the color remained unchanged from the DVD. Is this not the case?

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#667505
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A New Hope DVD Color Correction (*unfinished project * - a mass of information)
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@Msycamore:

You can get a lot out of shots if you don't mind doing them one at a time.

JEDIT: I'd say the journey from DVD to the correction below it took thirty minutes to do. Multiply that by the amount of shots in the movie (assuming good references) and that would be how long the correction takes, working from the global settings.

RETURN OF THE JEDIT: This is one thing that perplexes me about Despecialized. There are explosions in the Trench Run which require fairly little correction to look right, yet these are replaced with inferior GOUT upscales.