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NeverarGreat

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#668773
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The Stars of Wrath
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I like this back and forth you've got going.

Imagine if these guys all went on the adventure with Luke; I'm guessing that Fixer would sneak off of the Falcon with his girlfriend while everyone else was busy rescuing Leia, and those two would escape into hyperspace after stealing Vader's TIE fighter. They would never be heard from again. Windy would be Luke's wingman along with Biggs in the final Death Star assault, and would chicken out while Biggs got fried by Vader in his conventional TIE fighter. Windy would then circle around and destroy Vader's TIE, and Han Solo would not come back to save anybody, having tried to pay back Jabba the Hutt. Chewbacca however would return in an empty Falcon, having left Han in a lurch back on Tatooine, where he would have to be rescued in a later film.

Incidentally Reegar, please don't use this plot, as it is a jokingly suggested hypothetical. ;)

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#668549
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Myst, Riven, and...Obduction?
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There's a kickstarter out there for a new game from Cyan called Obduction.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cyaninc/obduction

Cyan is of course the company that made Myst and Riven, two of my favorite games of all time.

Myst defined my first gaming experiences. It was not a game to be played so much as experienced. It created a unique atmosphere, and really opened my eyes to what could be done with computer games. I'll admit that I was stuck on the lighthouse island for days before I realized that my monitor's brightness was turned down too low to see one of the secret doors. Despite this, there was no other game like it until Riven.

Riven was Myst on steroids. It was better in every way, managing to be more sophisticated, classy, deep, and engaging than its predecessor, while making great strides in graphical detail. The one downside to the game was that it forced me to switch disks when traveling from one island to another, but in a way that actually encouraged me to take my time and explore the locations entirely before heading to a new place. The atmospheric music in Riven cannot be beat.

Sorry if this thread sounds like advertizing, but I really want this new game to succeed. If you've got any stories about Myst or other Cyan games or anything, post away!

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#668504
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Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
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Joel said:

NeverarGreat said:

Knockout settings for Leia Reconstituted Audio:

Vocals plus music on top, left panned. Right music channel on bottom, right panned.

Select both tracks, start Knockout. Extract Centre off, R input gain 13 dB, Output gain 8 dB, all other settings off.

preview section, record with windows audio recorder.

 

The moral of this story: It is quite possible to isolate the Leia hologram speech, with some effort.

WOW, Nice work! 

Now don't be hasty, I'm uploading it now, so you can decide for yourselves whether it's worth the hype.

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#668489
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Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
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Alright, I've been looking for some free options for reducing the center channel of the AC3 file some more, and came across KnOckOut, a plugin for Audacity. Placing the center channel above the right channel, I then pulled the center channel to read as a left channel, and pulled the right channel to read as the right channel. This is so Knockout thinks that it is a simple stereo file. Playing with the settings allowed for a really impressive result. Leia's voice is hardly garbled at all, and except for a single errant note, I was hard pressed to hear any music. This is more than sufficient for incorporating into a trailer, methinks.

The only problem was that this didn't work. It only worked when I clicked the "preview" option, which played the first five seconds perfectly. Trying to apply the effect to the whole track did absolutely nothing except amplify the track. So I did what any sane person would do and recorded the five second previews with Windows Audio Recorder and stitched them together in Audacity. Here are the settings, if anyone else is interested in working from the AC3 audio:

Knockout settings for Leia Reconstituted Audio:

Vocals plus music on top, left panned. Right music channel on bottom, right panned.

Select both tracks, start Knockout. Extract Centre off, R input gain 13 dB, Output gain 8 dB, all other settings off.

preview section, record with windows audio recorder.

The moral of this story: It is quite possible to isolate the Leia hologram speech, with some effort.

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#668430
Topic
Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
Time

Joel said:

 

As snother audio person, I will add that unless you actually enjoy the trial-and-error process, your time might be better spent trying to locate un-mixed soundbites. The M-S processor concept seems to be a more advanced version of the phase cancellation techniques mentioned above (albeit with more fine control over the phase of the signals). 

If you DO want to work on it -  go, man, go! You will definitely learn what works best, what you can live with and what you can't.

Having never listened to the isolated center channel of the DTS Master Audio from the Blu-Ray - can someone verify that the music is present?

Do I enjoy trial and error? Have you seen my color correction method? ;)

I am very interested in knowing whether the Blu-ray has music in the central channel as well.

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#668404
Topic
The Force Conquers All - [Completed Short Story/ROTJ Reimagining]
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It's got more Dune-like elements in it now, for sure. I'm thinking the Bene Gesserit sisterhood:

"Kill this child, it is an abomination!"

This has absolutely the darkest outcome of any Star Wars story I have ever read, though I'm glad that you finished the story - that's rare on this forum.

The moral of the story is that the Jedi are not to be trusted!

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#668342
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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It could have worked - if Khan's second in command was revived instead of Khan. He looks a lot like Cumberbatch!

JEDIT: Now I'm retconning STID to actually star this guy, who only pretends to be Khan after the suits at Starfleet unfreeze the wrong guy. He plays along because he wishes to avoid being put back into hibernation, and soon comes to enjoy impersonating his hero so much that he begins to think that he is indeed Khan.

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#668334
Topic
AntcuFaalb's Weight Loss Journey
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Hi, AntcuFaalb, looking at what you've eaten the past two days, I see most of your vegetables come from the Lean Cuisine Meals. I've done those before, and there's not all that much in the way of vegetables there.

how do you feel about including more fresh vegetables in your diet? It's a habit for me to have a salad every day, usually at lunch or sometimes at dinner, a huge thing in a big soup bowl. It goes a long way towards filling me up. My brother and I take turns making salads, but on occasion I've made a large amount of salad and refrigerated it so that it would last for a few days. Adding olive oil and cheese is a good replacement for dressing. I don't even miss it now.

Good luck on your new goal!

 

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#668003
Topic
Resource Thread: Isolating Music and Voices in Star Wars
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I imported the French version of the GOUT soundtrack into Audacity along with the English version, and the waveforms are very different, even for the supposedly identical music. So I don't think that will work either. I also tried copying the english sound and used a compressor to bring down the vocals. Then I inverted the compressed soundwave, hoping to keep the higher volume voice while cancelling out the lower volume music, and while that may work with enough effort, it didn't sound good. There are also parts where the music is louder than the voice, rendering the method useless in those places. So I'm at a loss.

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#667895
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Laserschwert said:

It's the same link posted at the top of this page. And for now it's only a rumour.

To me it sounds too good to be true (three more movies with Han Solo plus an Indy movie that might rectify KOTCS?).

Oh, I thought that it was only the Indy 5 news.

I feel exactly the opposite about Han Solo. To me the character is dead. Didn't KOTCS show how difficult it was to revive an old character?