NeverarGreat

.Mac. said:

It's a safe bet we will get the first teaser trailer by Christmas time, most likely attached to Into the Woods. I'm not expecting we'll know the title for VII by then though.

I wouldn't discount it being attached to the final Hobbit film. It depends on whether they want to reach a larger audience with the trailer or pull people in to see a a more niche film.

Harmy said:

OK, I have to say, that episode 4 was really good. There were still a couple of cringe-worthy moments but over-all I liked it a lot.

 Please, it's called STAR WARS, not Episode 4...oh wait.

Handman said:

SilverWook said:

Please let this be true!

http://www.starwars7news.com/2014/10/rumor-star-wars-episode-vii-trailer-music-to-be-recorded-next-month-by-john-williams-first-teaser-this-christmas.html

 Do you guys think it would be possible for an Ep. VII teaser to appear for Disney's new animated movie coming out later this year? I do.

Big Hero 6? That comes out on Nov. 7, whereas this rumor has JW finishing the music on Nov. 15.

RicOlie_2 said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

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 That would prevent spoilers for sure, but I dunno, it sounds pretty dull to me.

I think he made a great point.

DuracellEnergizer said:

GrandMaster88 said:

I've been thinking some more about this and, personally, if I were George Lucas, there are two major things I'd have done differently.

Firstly, I would have kept the first movie's title simply as STAR WARS. no added episode number later, the sequels are simply called THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI. 

Secondly, I would have told the stories of the prequels with a trilogy of books... That way, you get to know how and why Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side, you hear all about The Clone Wars, and you get to picture the characters however you want to. There aren't so many disappointments when the actors chosen don't match the images we've had in our heads for the characters. 

AND... For any newbies, or those who only watch the films... There are NO SPOILERS!!! :)

This solves the problem in my mind... I'll probably get blasted for saying it, but there you go.  If other films had to be made they could've been about another group of characters. Stand alone stories, completely unrelated to the STAR WARS TRILOGY... 

Just imagine the front covers of those books... Anakin and Obi-Wan shown as younger versions of Alec Guinness and Sebastian Shaw!! 

I think if Lucas had done this, instead of making them movies, he could have stayed truer to the original ideas he had and, therefore, he would have been able to tell a far better story, it could have been a true epic and even become one of the great sci-fi book series of all time!!!

I'me getting pretty overexcited thinking about this here... Lol

I'd have loved to see this though!!! I'd love to hear what you guys think... :)

Change "trilogy of books" to "trilogy of comic book mini-series", and I'll agree 110%. 

Change "trilogy of comic book mini-series" to "trilogy of Flash-Gordon-esque animated films" and you've got something completely different. Cool different.

fullmetal777 said:

Just read this article:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/fuffy/news/?a=109805

 Tried. Failed.

"Before Peter Jackson convinced Warner Bros. of make it a trilogy is was expected to cost $150 million for each of the two films they had planned."

Who edited this? 

KilroyMcFadden said:

The Hobbit is going to be able to be saved.  Imagine a fan edit coming in at about 2 hours.  There's a really strong story with great acting hidden inside all of that bloat.  The PT on the other hand...

 Thread over.

CatBus said:

.Mac. said:

I understand that many people are bitter about the PT, and rightfully so.

It's not just that, though (although it is mostly that). The other problem is that Return of the Jedi closed pretty much all of the OT storylines down.  Unlike Empire, which followed in the traditions of your classic serials by opening up more plotlines than it resolved, Jedi wrapped up the loose ends and put a nice bow on top of it for everyone.  The story was finished.  I didn't really want to see any more Star Wars movies after Jedi (for the same reason I really don't want to see a sequel to Casablanca--the story is already complete), and the prequels simply drew a line under that sentiment.

Anyone who makes a sequel pretty much has to create their own story. This is risky because people loved the old stories, and would accept continuations of those stories more easily than entirely new stories that just happen to have some of the same characters later in life.  Not saying it won't be good, just saying it's a tough act to follow.

I'm reading the Mistborn trilogy right now, which follows a group of rebels and scoundrels attempting to overthrow a god king with magical powers. I'll try to avoid spoilers, but suffice to say overthrowing an empire may be far simpler and less interesting than the resulting chaos.

.Mac. said:

dclarkg said:

.Mac. said:

I sense a great deal of pessimism in this thread.

 And it's totally understandable, if we could imagine that this thread is happening 15 years ago before TPM came out I bet that everyone would be in a orgasmic joy since all the reasons to think that the PT is going to be equal or better than the OT are there: Same guy who created SW is behind the PT... what could go wrong?? Then 15 years later, here we are wondering what the f*** George did. I think that we all disagree at some point on how bad the PT was but we all agree that the PT IS worse than the OT.

It's funny if you come to think that the fact that Lucas isn't behind the ST is actually what creates a good expectation because we don't know if it's going to suck or not, if Lucas were the man behind the ST as he was on the PT we would be far more pessimistic.

I understand that many people are bitter about the PT, and rightfully so. After years of disdain towards them, though, it should also be understandable that the people who are currently involved with the SW films know what's at stake here. JJ Abrams, who is a huge, life-long SW fan, certainly gets it and has tried on occasions to reassure us of this. Even certain "leaks" have been promising.

At least to me, I feel anyone who's a fan of SW would try to look forward to this optimistically, be open-minded, and have enough faith that JJ, Kasdan, Williams, the old and new cast, and everyone else involved are genuinely trying to make something as comparable and exhilarating as the OT.

Not saying it has to be or will be loved by everybody, because inevitably it won't be (same is true with The Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, or ANY film), but give it a fair chance if you truly are a fan.

Don't let the PT get in the way of you wanting to enjoy any more SW that you loved so much before...

 My thoughts exactly.

Shmis Noodles said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4yApV_xI6U

 That's actually quite well done. I don't blame the kid for believing it.

So many people on this forum seem super jaded. Perhaps I'm just a sci-fi fan, but I'd be hyped about this project even if it didn't have Star Wars in the title. An epic space opera shot on film with old-school sets and practical effects, all scored by John Williams? A whole lot of yes please. I can only assume that people are turned off by the fact that it has Star Wars in it.

Sky_ said:

Bingowings said:

You are just saying that to start page 1234 ;-)

 Ill wait for page 12345 to say something constructive

 That's the kind of page an idiot would have on his luggage.

The likability of the characters is something I forgot to mention before. Everyone involved with the production is saying how 'human' this movie is, and judging by the ability of Abrams to get a real sense of camaraderie among his actors (Super8, Star Trek 09), I'd say that there's a good chance that Ep 7 is better than even the OT in this regard. It's important to note that Alec Guinness and Harrison Ford hated their lines even in Star Wars, but the trilogy managed to soar despite the stilted dialogue and occasionally awkward delivery.

CO said:

I was thinking about this thread when the ST is finished.  I actually think 4,5,6,1,2,3,7,8,9.

Now many would argue if you are going to start with 4,5,6 then you should go right into 7,8,9 then 1,2,3.  But my reasoning for this is after watching 4,5,6, episode 7 takes place 30 years after.  So by going back and watching 1,2,3, and then when you watch Episode 7, it will feel like a much longer time gap since you have seen Episode 6, which will jive better with seeing the characters much older now.

I hope that makes sense?

Using the logic that the last movie in a trilogy is a letdown, and considering that 8 will probably be better than JJ's 7, my recommendation for the 9 part saga would be episodes 2,3,1,9,6,7,8,5,4. I'm taking a wild guess that at least some of the ST will be better than ROTJ, but this ordering should guarantee that each movie will be better than the last.

FanFiltration said:

"CLERKS" (1994)

Today is the 20th Anniversary of this brilliant little film.

8/10

 Just 8/10? Bunch of savages in this town.

I'm definitely excited, if only to see Star Wars treated with reverence again. The last time that happened was with Kershner at the helm, and we got arguably the greatest Star Wars movie ever. I feel like Episode 7 is very similar to ESB from a creative standpoint. There are high expectations, a dedicated team, new and returning actors, potentially novel applications of special effects technology old and new, and an understanding that the story must be taken in a new and unexpected direction. This last point is the most exciting for me, that they may give Star Wars another twist that makes it interesting for old and new generations alike.

TV's Frink said:

I use my eyes and some glasses.

.Mac. said:

That is indeed one of the best finds posted in this thread. I was clicking through those concept arts multiple times like mad.. so awesome! Absolutely loved the one inside a throne room, with the cloaked villain sitting to the far left where his lair is red and the hero is approaching through the door from the right where bluish light is coming in - very symbolic and the art says it all what's happening. I really really hope that exact style of shot will actually be in the film.

The throne art is actually my least favorite of the bunch, as it seems kind of Marvel villain-esque, if that makes sense. But all of them are really great, much more realistic and lived-in than the prequels and even McQuarrie's concepts. If the film is able to capture this feel, it could be one of the best Star Wars films on that strength alone.

Tyrphanax said:

Erik Pancakes said:

It's actually set 5 years before ANH, not 10.

Dammit! I knew it was either this way or the way I said. I took a gamble.

timdiggerm said:

NeverarGreat said:

Erik Pancakes said:

It's actually set 5 years before ANH, not 10.

 If that's the case, why does Obi-wan look so young?

 Okay, I haven't actually seen the show, but after doing some quick reading, isn't his only appearance as a hologram recorded around or just after ROTS? So the message is something like 13 years old by the time it shows up on Rebels.

Yeah, the hologram featuring Obi-Wan is the one he records when he and Yoda break into the Jedi Temple to warn any survivors away.

 Ah, that makes sense.

Erik Pancakes said:

It's actually set 5 years before ANH, not 10.

 If that's the case, why does Obi-wan look so young?

SilverWook said:

TV's Frink said:

This is an idea I've had for a long time, but it ended up much more difficult than I was expecting...and thus I'm not 100% sure it works.   But I'll let y'all be the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyqCXrGV2U

 Was thinking about this scene again. If this song doesn't fit there, maybe somewhere else? It's tailor made for Anakin...

http://youtu.be/qgll-igYqKc

 That's uncanny.

darklordoftech said:

I love that Droids in Distress is lightsaber-free.

 I actually didn't even notice that, and didn't miss it.

RicOlie_2 said:

I tried to imagine Yoda saying "brash" and "cocky" and failed. Yoda would be ashamed of me.

 Now I see Yoda berating Han while Han is doing a handstand in a swamp like an idiot.

So there may possibly be an update here:

http://www.slashfilm.com/new-disney-ad-fuels-rumors-full-star-wars-digital-re-release/

Insert obligatory speculation that it may be the 4K scans:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/94908

The ad is very low quality, so the only differences worth mentioning other than the extra cropping is the substantial bump in brightness.

Wonderful results!

.Mac. said:

Related and back on topic: something I do not want to see in VII (or for that matter, in any more SW) are bad guys or anyone who are terrible shots, ESPECIALLY if they should have had the training and experience.

And while I'm at it, no more Imperials always saying "Freeze" when instead they should have taken their shot.

 Absolutely this. It happens all the time in movies, and takes me out of the action. If someone is shooting at you, you do not think "hey, I may want to get behind cover at some point in the next several seconds". No, you duck and run instinctively like any person interested in self-preservation! Rebels ep. 2 had a particularly egregious example of this, and to a lesser extent the Star Wars detention block shootout is guilty as well.