It looks like a different bandolier as well. Perhaps this is a different wookie altogether?
The top one looks really good as is. Do any of these have color correction?
Is it Black Angel?
And I was just looking at ESB trailers and found this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_YWNhKOkM
It has a shot of Lando exiting the top hatch that I don't think I'd ever seen before.
'Twas a joke, Handman.
Well I expect being on this forum may be more embarrassing than porn for some people...
For that matter, has it been said that the Falcon is actually CG? For all we know, they could have shot it practically then added motion blur and contrails later. Point is, after Gravity, I realize that I'm not a good judge of CGI anymore.
emanswfan said:
The droid being revealed to be a real live prop doesn't surprise me. It certainly did not look like bad CGI to me. I was more like "that's amazing CGI". I think I assumed it was CG since I didn't think they'd be able to pull off the design for real.
That said I still severely dislike the CG falcon, but I'm certain it's just poor CGI as they only finished shooting less than 2 months ago!
Also, is it me or do the name cards have slightly different color grading than the trailer?
Now I'm wondering if the X-wings were real miniatures with CG water effects added to them.
adywan said:
So the ball droid (BB-8) isn't CG, but a real prop , as confirmed by Mark Hamill. In bet the whiners on the net that were saying the ball droid was "bad Cg" are going to be a little butthurt about this one ;)
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mark-hamill-on-playing-with-the-star-wars-the-105015597302.html
This is the best thing I've heard about this movie since the trailer. I was wondering how they'd gotten the antenna to bounce around so realistically!
Is it the opening to the original 1977 Trailer?
Anchorhead said:
NeverarGreat said:
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-character-names/
- The “ball droid” is BB-8
- Oscar Isaac is Poe Dameron
- The Sith is Kylo Ren
- Daisy Ridley is Rey
- John Boyega is Finn
In every measurable category, those names are light years ahead of Plagueis, Sidious, Maul, Dooku, Grevous, and Mace. Lucas was a complete idiot with his moronic character names.
Absolutely loving the names, as well as the total awesomeness that is the trading card homage. Fantastic stuff.
Any name is better than Dooku.
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-character-names/
Alderaan said:
It just occurred to me, when Lucas last restored the original negatives, it had been 12 years since Jedi and 18 years since Star Wars, and they were said to be in very bad shape.
It has now been almost 20 years since the last OOT restoration (which was later converted into the '97 SE).
What are the chances that the negatives and fx are in even worse shape than they were in '95?
If the RMW 4K work is from a 'new' scan of the original elements, it would seem that the negatives are not much changed from what we've seen, however the lightsaber effects have continued to degrade, again, from the short snipped that we've seen.
Leonardo said:
I seem to have fixed it. It just needed a little cleaning up.
It was full of..... iiickkk...!
In other news, my sister can't stand the sight of me apparently. Don't know what I've done to deserve this, and she won't tell me nor my mother. Twas a nice sunday, let me tell ya. To have my heart broken by my own sister. Nice.
Who doesn't love a face like that?
DuracellEnergizer said:
The one and only time I watched Being John Malkovich, I absolutely hated it. Honestly, was I supposed to sympathize with the manipulative bitch and the suddenly-lesbian Diaz? If so, it didn't happen -- in fact, I felt nothing but contempt for those two characters by the end of the film.
I suppose I should re-watch the movie, though, just to see whether or not I viewed the movie through the wrong eyes the first time around, so to speak.
I felt animosity towards most of the characters from the outset, so I figured that they were supposed to be unlikeable. I really liked where the movie went, as just diving right into human ugliness.
Darth Lucas said:
Even before the Disney merger there were diferent LEVELS of canon. If something happens in one canon that contradicts another, the higher canon supersedes the lower level canon. It has always been that something in the expanded universe (say a comic) can be considered canon unless/until something in the movies contradicted it, in which case the films (being a higher level of canon) supersedes the EU content. They rank as follows.
G Canon - This would include the films I-III, IV-VI, and VII-IX.
T Canon - Television shows such as The Clone Wars and Rebels
C Canon - EU elements such as comic books and video games that have not been contradicted by a higher canon.
S Canon - Also EU, but has been contradicted by a higher canon. Some elements of these stories which have not been contradicted may still be considered a part of the SW universe.
N Canon - Any material that is directly contradicted by higher canons. This would include things like "what if" stories.
I believe this ranking of canon was scrapped with the Lucasfilm/Disney deal, however I see no reason why it should not still be a viable way to determine canon and I will continue to use it. It's nice in that you can still use the EU where it isn't contradicting the movies, and where it does, you can simply say that story exists in a parallel universe. =P
But what about contradictions between the two trilogies? I think there should be a GO and GP cannon, with GO (original trilogy) superceding the GP.
^^That's...oddly specific.
darklordoftech said:
NeverarGreat said:
darklordoftech said:
How everything was linked to ancient aliens, from hyperdrives to black hole clusters to planetary biomes.
I liked the idea of the celestials. But I guess it would get old quick.
The problem is that EVERYTHING was linked to them, from the origins of the Jedi and Sith to hyperdrives to the balance of The Force to why Tatooine is a desert, not just similarities between species on different planets and things like that.
I only remember them being responsible for the Corellia system, but that was a long time ago and I didn't read all of the books. I guess that's why it is still cool in my mind.
darklordoftech said:
How everything was linked to ancient aliens, from hyperdrives to black hole clusters to planetary biomes.
I liked the idea of the celestials. But I guess it would get old quick.
RicOlie_2 said:
You know, that doesn't seem as funny with Obi-Wan referring to himself in the third person. Perhaps he could start using "I" after he dies?
Was just going to say that. The joke should die with him, if not earlier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yMjFUmowQ0
For an entire internet generation (1 week), people have experienced The Force Awakens the only way it's been possible...
Bingowings said:
ranger613 said:
... Not the Pt we have now that are not only bad movies that stain the OT but ruin the plot as well (ep 5's reveal moment shock is gone, etc),...There are people around these here parts who call that crazy talk... or maybe it's only when I say it... hiding under in the cupboard under the sink.
My view is there are lots of fans for who the PT is their entry point to the saga and while I think they are poopy-poop-poop I can understand why other people may incorrectly disagree with me.
So here's my thoughts.
Keep the big history making events the same but put them in the background (have the Jedi, the Separatists, the politics as background details) and create a new trilogy of films set the same time as the prequels that plop and make them not plop.
There is a whole lot of stuff happening in the background of (dare I say it?) Guardians of the Galaxy that we don't get to see much if at all. It doesn't distract us from an interesting group of characters, the fate of which is not predetermined or already made better in our own imaginations after years of thinking about Ben's memories of the Old Republic (or the Odd Republic if you watch the Ploppy Trilogy)
That's what I would like from the spin-offs. A spin off trilogy which acts as an alternative PT for those who want one but doesn't decanonise the original plop.
Spin-off Part 1: (Occurs between AOTC and ROTS). Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker is wounded in a distant battle and places himself in hibernation to survive, telepathically guiding a young scrap dealer and her scavenger crew to pilot his cruiser through enemy territory to reach the safety of the Republic.
Spin-off Part 2: (Occurs during the events of ROTS). The scrap dealer discovers affinity for the Force, perhaps as a side effect of her previous telepathic link with Skywalker. She joins the Republic as a pilot, and goes into battle just in time for Order 66. She saves her Jedi commander from the clones, but is without her ship, her old crew, and thinking Anakin is dead, she loses her abilities with the Force.
Spin-off Part 3: (Occurs after ROTS). Our hero and her wounded Jedi commander search for any remaining Jedi or their offspring, and the location of one of the Skywalker twins is discovered. In order to protect this secret, the remaining Jedi and a Separatist remnant join forces, and our hero faces the murderer of Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader, in an aerial battle across the surface of an alien sun.
You're welcome.
Bingowings said:
Tobar said:
Bingowings said:
Having Anakin raised on the same planet as Luke makes practically no sense either.
Ben Kenobi said:
That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved.
Just because Owen thought he should stay on Tatooine doesn't follow that where Anakin is from.
If some Kung Fu Guru types took a child from Washington and everything began to go pear-shaped it would make sense for the whole family to move to New Mexico and suggest the kid stay with them and keep away from the dojo.
This is by far the most reasonable series of events that could have happened to the Lars family. The new Empire has created a refugee crisis by seizing the more fertile agricultural worlds for military use, leaving Owen and Beru to find any interstellar rock they can cling to. They offer Anakin the choice to join them in finding a new home, but he refuses and they depart. Anakin never knows where they end up, and isn't particularly interested in finding out.
Oh, and Episode 7 looks promising, I guess. ;)
obikal said:
NeverarGreat said:
Yoda's philosophy seems to be rather indifferent to the suffering of others, or rather views their suffering as a necessary sacrifice, and to help them would cause more problems than it solves. He basically says this to Luke, and it's an understandably difficult pill to swallow. The Masters aren't traditional superheroes, and they certainly don't vow to uphold Truth, Justice, and the American Way. In the OT, Masters were not simply the most powerful Knights, but a different Force user entirely. They were Force gurus, able to train the Knights who were more traditional keepers of peace and justice.
Hmm, I agree that Yoda sees suffering as a 'potentially' necessary sacrifice, for sure. But what reasoning would there be for allowing Sidious to become an Emperor?
If Yoda just takes a non-violent stand against Sidious, that would be totally acceptable and quite cool to see. I guess it's just a fine line between passivity and hypocrisy.
I don't see Yoda being anywhere near able to defeat the Emperor in the OT. Extrapolating back to the PT era, I don't think that Yoda would be powerful enough to oppose the Emperor. After all, he presumably trained Luke simply to confront and defeat Vader. He may have had no idea that Luke would be brought before the Emperor. I imagine a scenario where Luke confronts Vader and defeats him, and upon taking the title of Jedi Knight, trains Leia to be a Jedi. Together they may just have the wherewithal to defeat the Emperor. Or Luke could turn Vader, but Obi-wan doesn't see this as an option.
I just had an idea, if Yoda is still involved in the Prequels. He would literally use the Force for knowledge and defense, alerting the galaxy to the plans and aspirations of this dangerous Chancellor. However, instead of backing down and becoming embroiled in scandal, Palpatine moves more quickly and unilaterally to stifle the Jedi and form the Empire, where it otherwise may have taken decades. Because of this failure, Yoda retreats in shame for 20 years to Dagobah.
darklordoftech said:
NeverarGreat said:
obikal said:
brash_stryker said:
obikal said:
The fight between Yoda and Palp RUINED Yoda in my eyes.
Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?"
Yoda: emphatically "No!"
Oh really Yoda? In 900 years I guess your memory is fading... I take it you don't remember that fight where you lost to a much younger Sith Lord pretty handedly? And then fled like a dog that just pooped on the floor?
The fight needs to be similar to the Dooku fight in Ep 2: Yoda needs to be able to take on Sidious with no problem. The true fight shouldn't be between their "power levels" with the force - Yoda should dominate if so - it should be that Sidious fights dirty, endangering innocent lives or other would-be victims that Yoda needs to exert extra "Force power" to save.
Even better, innocent people die as Yoda is unable to save them all - but witnesses only see Yoda as Sidious flees the scene. Yoda then has to go into hiding due to the public's uproar against the Jedi and his own shame in not being able to save everyone...
Yoda shouldn't fight at all. I've gone so far as to say that he shouldn't be in the Prequels at all. Just mentioned as this great Jedi who trained a bunch of the wisest masters in the order. You could even have a mythology built around him, where young Jedi in training have conversations about him and share rumours. "I heard he's 8 feet tall and wields 2 lightsabers!" And of course when we then finally meet Yoda in ESB, we realise he's powerful in a whole different way - beyond the physical.
Hmm, interesting idea, I like it.
I would prefer him not being in the prequels at all vs being in the story and not take action against Sidious. I guess if he's not in the story at all - he's still not taking action against Sidious... seems too passive thinking about it.
Again when training Luke: 'a Jedi uses the force for defense' - should we see Yoda do this? To protect the innocent?
Yoda's philosophy seems to be rather indifferent to the suffering of others, or rather views their suffering as a necessary sacrifice, and to help them would cause more problems than it solves. He basically says this to Luke, and it's an understandably difficult pill to swallow. The Masters aren't traditional superheroes, and they certainly don't vow to uphold Truth, Justice, and the American Way. In the OT, Masters were not simply the most powerful Knights, but a different Force user entirely. They were Force gurus, able to train the Knights who were more traditional keepers of peace and justice.
Did you get a similar impression of The Emperor?
Now there's an interesting idea - use the moral ambiguity of the Jedi Masters as one of the Emperor's justifications for starting a war for the 'greater good' of the galaxy. Back when I first went to see ROTS Palpy seemed to be doing just this, sowing the seeds of distrust in Anakin's mind about the questionable motives of the Jedi council. But it didn't really go anywhere.
You charming devil.