NeverarGreat

pablumatic said:

We've seen Tie Fighters, Stormtroopers, X-Wings, and now an obvious Darth Vader clone. I don't think watching these Pequels will be particularly necessary since we've seen this all before.

 Fixed.

But seriously, ROTS had these same things, with TPM having most of the new ships and ideas. I don't see anything wrong with TFA tying the visuals to the OT if it grows into it's own aesthetic with episodes 8 and 9.

But this is the nature of how legends grow. Thirty years after his death, the stories may say that Vader personally destroyed Alderaan, routed the rebels at Hoth singlehandedly, and destroyed the Emperor and then relinquished his physical form out of his own desire, ascending directly to godhood. It would be interesting to see a character who genuinely believes these things, and it doesn't diminish the character of Vader to have someone best him - on the contrary, it may show that physical power is not what makes a character great.

Vader's original armor concept looked oriental, but this new helmet design with the gold around the eyes looks rather ancient Egyptian.

It's astonishing how much shadow detail simply seems to be gone in this print, although the canyon scene was substantially lightened for home video release.

That fanfic is quite a bit more detailed than mine. My idea was that each time the Friz gets her class into the schoolbus, it emits a cloud of psychedelics through the ventilation system and she leads the class through a tripped-out educational program through hypnotic suggestion. Your story is more fun though.

The first thing I thought of when I saw the name 'Caryon' is that it's crayon with two letters switched. Then Carry On. Maybe spelling it Carrieon or Karyon would lessen that connection.

timdiggerm said:

The EEs will certainly be the films off which to base a fan-edit.

But what about the new additions to the Dol Guldur scenes in DOS? Doesn't the EE have different versions of a few shots, or am I making that up?

The blacks will be crushed.

Again.

It looks like a different bandolier as well. Perhaps this is a different wookie altogether?

The top one looks really good as is. Do any of these have color correction?

Is it Black Angel?

And I was just looking at ESB trailers and found this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_YWNhKOkM

It has a shot of Lando exiting the top hatch that I don't think I'd ever seen before.

'Twas a joke, Handman.

Well I expect being on this forum may be more embarrassing than porn for some people...

For that matter, has it been said that the Falcon is actually CG? For all we know, they could have shot it practically then added motion blur and contrails later. Point is, after Gravity, I realize that I'm not a good judge of CGI anymore.

emanswfan said:

The droid being revealed to be a real live prop doesn't surprise me.  It certainly did not look like bad CGI to me.  I was more like "that's amazing CGI".  I think I assumed it was CG since I didn't think they'd be able to pull off the design for real.

That said I still severely dislike the CG falcon, but I'm certain it's just poor CGI as they only finished shooting less than 2 months ago!

Also, is it me or do the name cards have slightly different color grading than the trailer?

Now I'm wondering if the X-wings were real miniatures with CG water effects added to them.

adywan said:

So the ball droid (BB-8) isn't CG, but a real prop , as confirmed by Mark Hamill. In bet the whiners on the net that were saying the ball droid was "bad Cg" are going to be a little butthurt about this one ;)

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mark-hamill-on-playing-with-the-star-wars-the-105015597302.html

This is the best thing I've heard about this movie since the trailer. I was wondering how they'd gotten the antenna to bounce around so realistically!

Is it the opening to the original 1977 Trailer?

Anchorhead said:

NeverarGreat said:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-character-names/

• The “ball droid” is BB-8
• Oscar Isaac is Poe Dameron
• The Sith is Kylo Ren
• Daisy Ridley is Rey
• John Boyega is Finn

 In every measurable category, those names are light years ahead of Plagueis, Sidious, Maul, Dooku, Grevous, and Mace.  Lucas was a complete idiot with his moronic character names.  

Absolutely loving the names, as well as the total awesomeness that is the trading card homage.  Fantastic stuff.

 Any name is better than Dooku.

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-character-names/

• The “ball droid” is BB-8
• Oscar Isaac is Poe Dameron
• The Sith is Kylo Ren
• Daisy Ridley is Rey
• John Boyega is Finn

Alderaan said:

It just occurred to me, when Lucas last restored the original negatives, it had been 12 years since Jedi and 18 years since Star Wars, and they were said to be in very bad shape.

It has now been almost 20 years since the last OOT restoration (which was later converted into the '97 SE).

What are the chances that the negatives and fx are in even worse shape than they were in '95?

If the RMW 4K work is from a 'new' scan of the original elements, it would seem that the negatives are not much changed from what we've seen, however the lightsaber effects have continued to degrade, again, from the short snipped that we've seen.

Leonardo said:

I seem to have fixed it. It just needed a little cleaning up.

It was full of..... iiickkk...!

In other news, my sister can't stand the sight of me apparently. Don't know what I've done to deserve this, and she won't tell me nor my mother. Twas a nice sunday, let me tell ya. To have my heart broken by my own sister. Nice.

 Who doesn't love a face like that?

DuracellEnergizer said:

The one and only time I watched Being John Malkovich, I absolutely hated it. Honestly, was I supposed to sympathize with the manipulative bitch and the suddenly-lesbian Diaz? If so, it didn't happen -- in fact, I felt nothing but contempt for those two characters by the end of the film.

I suppose I should re-watch the movie, though, just to see whether or not I viewed the movie through the wrong eyes the first time around, so to speak.  

I felt animosity towards most of the characters from the outset, so I figured that they were supposed to be unlikeable. I really liked where the movie went, as just diving right into human ugliness.

Darth Lucas said:

Even before the Disney merger there were diferent LEVELS of canon.  If something happens in one canon that contradicts another, the higher canon supersedes the lower level canon.  It has always been that something in the expanded universe (say a comic) can be considered canon unless/until something in the movies contradicted it, in which case the films (being a higher level of canon) supersedes the EU content. They rank as follows.

G Canon - This would include the films I-III, IV-VI, and VII-IX.

T Canon - Television shows such as The Clone Wars and Rebels

C Canon - EU elements such as comic books and video games that have not been contradicted by a higher canon.

S Canon - Also EU, but has been contradicted by a higher canon.  Some elements of these stories which have not been contradicted may still be considered a part of the SW universe.

N Canon - Any material that is directly contradicted by higher canons.  This would include things like "what if" stories.

I believe this ranking of canon was scrapped with the Lucasfilm/Disney deal, however I see no reason why it should not still be a viable way to determine canon and I will continue to use it.  It's nice in that you can still use the EU where it isn't contradicting the movies, and where it does, you can simply say that story exists in a parallel universe. =P

But what about contradictions between the two trilogies? I think there should be a GO and GP cannon, with GO (original trilogy) superceding the GP.

^^That's...oddly specific.

darklordoftech said:

NeverarGreat said:

darklordoftech said:

How everything was linked to ancient aliens, from hyperdrives to black hole clusters to planetary biomes.

 I liked the idea of the celestials. But I guess it would get old quick.

The problem is that EVERYTHING was linked to them, from the origins of the Jedi and Sith to hyperdrives to the balance of The Force to why Tatooine is a desert, not just similarities between species on different planets and things like that.

I only remember them being responsible for the Corellia system, but that was a long time ago and I didn't read all of the books. I guess that's why it is still cool in my mind.