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#950614
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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I was thinking more along the lines of a single large explosion taking up perhaps 1/8th of the sky. For that to work it really does need an establishing shot of a ship leaving Maz’s castle, then cutting to Finn boarding the transport as the explosion happens, then he turns and sees the debris in the sky, with the star destroyer just entering the frame from the right.

One thing that I didn’t consider was that Finn asks ‘Where’s Rey?’, and in this sequence of events it might imply that Finn feared that she was on the destroyed ship.

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#950209
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Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade (a WIP)
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This is one of those shots where the true color of the shot simply doesn’t exist in the Blu-ray. Note the magenta of the cup on the left, which is supposed to be white, still retains a magenta hue in the correction. Similarly, Luke’s dusty offwhite shirt has too much green in the highlights and too much magenta in the shadows, and the correction still doesn’t completely remove these inaccuracies.

This picture skews red but still shows how Luke’s shirt is definitely not white like Leia’s gown:
Luke Shirt

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#949205
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Why the prequels shouldn't be about Anakin and Obi Wan
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I think there was the possibility in 1999 of crafting a trilogy in the Clone Wars era without relying on many of the previously named characters, a story which would expand the Star Wars universe and people’s imaginations. Unfortunately Lucas went in the opposite direction and made a story which was over-reliant on name recognition and under-reliant on story. Remember that the ONLY thing that the prequels needed to be was to be designated as 1, 2, and 3 and come before the OT in chronology(and they didn’t even need to be that). There was no requirement that the prequels be connected via character or theme.

Unfortunately after Lucas made it clear that the entire saga (1-6) were going to be about the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker, people then assumed that Skywalkers must be involved with every numbered episode. Now if someone proposes remaking the prequels without Anakin or Obi-wan, the story feels incomplete or misguided. This is the power of framing. Lucas was allowed to frame the discussion in terms of Anakin, and the only way that most casual viewers could see past the framing is if they were given a trilogy which was as imaginative as the OT without including these well-known characters.

Furthermore, if any alternate trilogy was made, it would be incredibly jarring to the general audiences unless the alternate prequels were made in continuity with the Lucas Prequels, since those are the films people are aware of from that time period. You would ironically be REQUIRED to make an alternate prequel focusing on Anakin and Obi-wan just to ‘set the record straight’ on their relationship before venturing into uncharted character territory.

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#949066
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An inclusive universe and a new generation of fans.
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SilverWook said:

We’ve already seen a bit of Rey’s flaws and failures. Her reluctance to admit she’s been waiting in vain for family that’s never coming back, makes her pass on Han’s offer to join him and Chewie. Running away from her destiny is what gets her captured, and almost costs Finn his life. I imagine she may carry some residual guilt over Han’s death going forward as well.

I was referring more to her physical competency more than her emotional weaknesses. I have no complaints about her emotional issues, and to your list I would add that she may have anger/darkside temptations going forward, which is perfectly understandable. It’s just that she is a mechanical wizard, a fighter who can hold her own against several opponents, an ace pilot and a crack shot. She herself seems surprised at how adept she is at these last two things, which gives me hope that her abilities will be explained in the sequel, but as it is now her abilities strain my credulity. I don’t want to give the impression that I am against ANY female character having such competence, for example I fully buy the character of Imperator Furiosa. I just don’t buy Rey’s abilities thus far.

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#949027
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An inclusive universe and a new generation of fans.
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I’m very happy that they’ve gone in the direction of strong female leads (though having a young female scavenger main character rather takes the steam out of my own prequel rewrite). However, I feel like Rey is a bit too competent to act as an audience avatar, and may even do some harm if seen as a role model. Keep in mind that Luke was always a flawed character who failed as much as he succeeded in the OT, so people seeing him as a role model recognized that failure is a necessary element of success. Rey on the other hand succeeds to an uncanny degree in TFA. I hope that Episode 8 delves into her character flaws to a greater extent. Of course, we haven’t seen enough of Jyn Erso to make a determination about this, but from the trailer it seems like she will be a more obviously jaded and damaged character with a balance of strengths and weaknesses.

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#948825
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Alternative Prequel Ideas
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It would be interesting to see Owen as Anakin’s brother and a soldier fighting alongside him in the Clone Wars. We get a hint of military know-how when Biggs says: “Your uncle could hold off a whole colony of sand people with one blaster.” In one of my prequel ideas Owen and Beru served in the war but left for the Outer Rim when the Republic began to transition to the Empire. They had no stomach for a war that they didn’t believe in, and tried to get Anakin to come with them but Anakin would have none of it, deciding instead to follow Obi-wan. They end up going to the Outer Rim with a fleet of deserters and refugees, so Anakin couldn’t have found out where they ended up if he tried. Eventually Obi-wan and Anakin part ways, and Obi-wan takes the newborn Luke in search of Owen. He finally finds them on Tatooine after months or years of searching.

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#948179
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Is there anything that you actually like about the prequels?
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IsanRido said:

I like Rose because she’s a talented actress, if underappreciated, whom manages to do well in most films she’s in (even if that isn’t enough to save them).

My thoughts as well. I loved her as Cassie in Sunshine, but it was just recently that I even realized that she was in Clones. After seeing the actors in the blooper reel act like normal fun people, it’s abundantly clear that the problem was in the directing, not in the acting.

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#948000
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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https://vimeo.com/165767941

Viewing this again, it looks to me like the ships arrive from the other side of the forest, which is why they’re skimming the trees where Rey is hiding. I’d suggest giving some more movement to the Star Destroyer, as it is entering the frame from right to left. There’s no need to show the individual fighters and landing craft, since they are all shown later to be traveling fairly horizontally over the forest to the castle, presumably to be a surprise. If everyone saw TIEs and landing craft approaching the castle, there would be immediate pandemonium, but with just the distant Star Destroyer, it’s a bit more believable that there would be a few moments of relative calm beforehand.

In my opinion, the continuity is this: The Star Destroyer enters the system and launches attack crafts before it becomes visible to the castle, and only appears overhead moments before the attack group as a safeguard against escape.

JEDIT: In my ideal version, Finn looks up to see an escaping ship destroyed with lasers, but the source of the lasers is hidden behind the clouds. Then we just start to see the ship come out of the haze and cloud (and possibly the smoke of the explosion) as Finn says that ‘It’s the First Order, they’ve done it!’

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#946174
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Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
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ZkinandBonez said:

HansiG said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Z6PO said:

HansiG said:

ZkinandBonez said:

joefavs said:

Celebration Europe poster:

Hmm, why does all the conventions get all the cool classic-style posters while the theatres end up with those generic photoshops?

Research says people are more likely to buy a movie or a videogame if it has Photoshopped or CGI cover, rather than drawn cover

[citation needed]

Ditto.

I’m not saying your wrong, but I think that most fans would either prefer or don’t mind a painted poster, and quite frankly with something as popular (and I would also argue “retro”) as SW I don’t really image that too many people would really have cared, or perhaps even noticed (I can’t recall anyone making a fuss ver the PT posters). I think that as long as it says “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” people would go see the movie int he theatres and buy the DVD/Blu-ray regardless. Heck some of the DVD/Blu-ray covers are basically just the title anyway and the Teaser poster was literally just the title.
I have a feeling that this is one of those thing that marketers just assume about it’s audience. It’s kind of like how action movie posters always has the hero with his back turned to the camera or how certain actors look the same on every poster they’re on. I can’t really think of any good reasons for these cliches, it’s just one of those things that nobody bothers to change.

Fans? Yes. Dumb masses? No.

Well, that’s kind of my point, would the “dumb” masses really care? It’s Star Wars after all, and the “dumb” masses didn’t complain about the PT posters, which were Struzan paintings.
(Also some posters these days doesn’t even have people on them, so why would a painted person(s) bother them?)

I’m just quoting this to continue the sensation that the image is slowly retreating.

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#945567
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Help: looking for... Episode II and III extended soundtracks request for leitmotiv project
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I was listening to some ‘complete’ episode 2 and 3 soundtracks on youtube last night and heard a leitmotif of Across the Stars that I hadn’t heard before, which I quite like. It’s a bit more complicated than the usual version, but I’m not quite sure whether it was in Episode 2 or 3.

It’s rather awkward to admit this because I’ve listened to much of the soundtrack again as well as some others, but I can’t seem to find it again. It’s driving me a bit batty. I’ll keep listening, but does anyone here know what leitmotif I’m talking about? I think it was to mark a scene change, though I could be wrong.