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#957731
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Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
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^^ Thank you for making my point for me with the official TFA poster. Incidentally I happen to like the Yoda-less ESB poster more than the one with Yoda, but that’s mostly because I like the coloration of that one more.

But I should clarify my original statement. I simply think that a poster is stronger when it features the actual leads in the film or visually illustrates broad themes, rather than specifically including characters given as an emotional reward to the audience at the end of the film. The same thing applies, perhaps to a lesser extent, to the ROTS poster. I feel that it would be stronger without the giant mask in the background. It doesn’t matter if you know Vader, or Luke, will make an appearance or not.

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#957659
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Awesome Star Wars art (pic heavy!!)
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TV’s Frink said:

Why would he be on the poster? It’s not like he was in the movie or had anything to do with it OH WAIT HE WAS AND HE DID.

ESB Poster

I have this poster on my wall, and it’s one of my favorites. But you know who’s conspicuously absent? Yoda. The makers of this film knew even then that he was one of the best things about this movie, so they wanted to preserve his reveal as much as possible, to the extent of holding back on putting his image on promotional materials. Granted, they later put his face on ROTJ’s VHS cover, but this was years after the sequel came out. My point is that much of the interest for this movie is the question of what Luke looks like after all these years, and so to see him on the poster lessens the impact of seeing him at the end of the film.

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#957640
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Random Thoughts
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SilverWook said:

Old school visual FX are back, baby!
http://thecreatorsproject.vice.com/blog/sci-fi-legend-finds-outer-space-in-a-fish-tank

I was looking forward to this movie based on the fact that it was an introspective sci fi movie starring Mark Strong (which makes it sound like a spiritual prequel to Sunshine, one of my favorite movies) but knowing that it also uses practical effects to such an extent brings that to a new level.

You had my curiosity but now you have my attention

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#957320
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Is anyone else bothered by the idea that Han and Chewie would just stand idly by and take time out of their day to question Maz about a lightsaber while they know that the First Order is about to occupy the castle?

I feel like a quick cutaway to Kylo ordering his agent to sabotage escaping ships and later a single explosion wouldn’t be that much more difficult. I bet the guys at Auralnauts could provide the voice for this line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicXlvJBdo) and I could do the VFX for the shots if nobody else is interested.

Here’s the previous rough mockup in case anyone missed it: https://vimeo.com/170422931 Password: Kylo

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#956930
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If you could make your own se change, what would that be?
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In the prequels, I’d edit the end of ROTS so that Padme doesn’t die.

In the originals, my one change must be two, the first of which is to have the first Death Star only partially destroyed. The second change is of course to the crawl of ROTJ to indicate that the Empire is repairing the First Death Star instead of building another one.

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#952981
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Phantom Menace changes
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IsanRido said:

Yes, it has gotten worse. The extra cartoon aliens, the Blu’s DNR, “pretty hot”, etc. If I’m not mistaken, the colours are as messed up as the OT, too.

As for Yoda, however different Yoda looked from the OT, the special effect was still well executed. He was there with Samuel and the others, and the mannerisms were top notch.

The colors of the blu-ray are very strange, with many parts of the film having a purple tint and others (especially the Tatooine scenes) being brown and desaturated, to the point that some gradients may be gone.

And yes, CPY was a decent effect, so I’m torn on how I feel about that.

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#952724
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Phantom Menace changes
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I liked the podrace, though it could stand to be shortened. Those extra shots are so baffling, because they clearly don’t fit in with most of the rest of the footage. The CG in those shots is worse than in the rest of the film. Even so, it’s one of the more insidious changes to a Star Wars movie since at least most people are aware that the OT was changed. Very few people even realize that TPM has gotten worse with each iteration (with the possible exception of Creepy Puppet Yoda).

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#952514
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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I really wish I had my copy of TFA to examine, but alas, I have lent it to my parents.

Anyway, it makes very little sense for Han and Chewie to gaze up at a Star Destroyer with approaching fighters and not at least attempt to get to the Falcon. Even my previous suggestion of just showing the star destroyer/destroyer behind an exploding ship makes no sense from this perspective.

I propose a more radical series of events. When our heroes first arrive at Maz’s castle, the First Order spy could report to Kylo Ren, and then we cut to an unused shot of him (perhaps the one cut where he’s on the Star Destroyer viewing the superlaser) and overlay some new dialogue where he orders the spy to plant a thermal detonator on the first ship scheduled to leave the castle. It would be better if Hux were to say this since he doesn’t care if BB-8 is destroyed, but Kylo has the advantage of a mask and a muffled voice. This provides some tension during the ensuing scenes. The exploding ship never has to be seen, just the sound of a ship taking off and its destruction during Finn’s entry onto the transport, causing him to turn around. Then the rest of the scenes can happen pretty much as structured.

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#952443
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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I was being a bit flippant about those reviews, since although I do enjoy them, for me they’re intended to induce a state of cathartic dissatisfaction with the prequels instead of explaining how exactly the plot doesn’t work. I haven’t watched Episode 2 in its entirety in quite a while, but I don’t recall that they went into any depth about Dooku or Sypho-dias or Palpatine’s thought process for allowing the Republic to get the clones.

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#951557
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Individual Threads Crashing
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When I try to open certain threads, I get this error message:

😦

Error: could not extend file “base/16385/447750”: No space left on device
at EventEmitter.<anonymous> (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/node_modules/citizen/lib/helpers.js:246:13)
at emitOne (events.js:77:13)
at EventEmitter.emit (events.js:169:7)
at null.<anonymous> (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/app/patterns/models/topic.js:1277:25)
at nrWrappedHandler (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/node_modules/newrelic/lib/transaction/tracer/index.js:386:19)
at wrapped (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/node_modules/newrelic/lib/transaction/tracer/index.js:157:28)
at wrappedCallback (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/node_modules/newrelic/lib/transaction/tracer/index.js:438:66)
at wrapped (/srv/www/originaltrilogy.com/comitium/node_modules/newrelic/lib/transaction/tracer/index.js:157:28)
at bound (domain.js:280:14)
at runBound (domain.js:293:12)

Right now it’s just for some threads. Others I can open without issue.

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#951255
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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SilverWook said:

Jango doesn’t realize there’s a tracking device on his ship until he’s near the planet, and once he believes Obi Wan was asteroid chow, may have assumed that the Jedi had no time to report his position.

Right, but he technically doesn’t even need to know what his part in the plan is. Dooku could have told him ‘Jango, if the Jedi start snooping around, come find me on Geonosis.’ He says to the Geonosians that the Republic is ‘treacherous’ for raising an army, but he’s all smiles about it with Sidious.

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#951230
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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The whole plot is just so convoluted, I would just as much buy that Palpatine had orchestrated every little event in the movie as buy that the Jedi starting the war was only the result of Obi-wan’s investigation.

So why would Dooku erase a whole star system from the archives? He is obviously aware that you can’t actually do that since Hyperspace navigation requires precise calculations. We can’t have ships flying into missing planets or being flung wildly off course, so gravitational effects must remain. If the reason was that he didn’t want the Jedi to know about the clone army, I’d argue that a more effective way of doing that is not drawing attention to yourself by deleting a planet from the Jedi archives, a planet that people know about and that is home to a highly technologically sophisticated and wealthy species. If Dexter had just said that the dart had come from Kamino, it’s possible that Obi-wan would have simply assumed that was where the bounty hunter bought his weapons, not where disgruntled Spice Miners on the Moon of Naboo had hired their bounty hunter. That was after all the leading theory of the Jedi as to the source of the assassination attempts, so the Jedi could have demanded that Obi-wan go investigate that moon instead of Kamino. It is only after they discover the star’s deletion that Yoda gets suspicious and demands that Obi-wan take the trip.

If I were making bets, I’d say that there was a good chance that Dooku deleted the star system on orders from Palpatine, or even that Palpatine deleted the system in order to draw attention to the absence.

Another thing, why does Jango lead Obi-wan right to Geonosis? Unlike Kamino, this system hasn’t been suspiciously deleted from the archives, so if it was Dooku who wanted to delete planets to keep things secret, he forgot this big important one where they’re literally planning to build the Death Star. Perhaps its role in the war happened after Dooku could no longer access the archives. In any case, why did Jango go there? He knows he was just tracked down by a Jedi, does he think that he’ll be safe on Geonosis? Why not just go anywhere else in the galaxy that’s not the secret base of your employer? It’s the same problem that happened in ANH, where the Falcon could have gone anywhere else and gotten rid of the tracking device.

My guess is that Dooku fully intends for the Jedi to find Kamino and Geonosis, and although he is working for Palpatine, he secretly plots the overthrow of Palpatine and the defeat of the Republic. He’s an idealist after all, and though he goes along with Palpatine’s plan, he believes that he only does it to get close enough to Palpatine to put the proverbial knife in his back. So in Episode 3, perhaps he was the one who, alone, led the attack on Coruscant to capture and perhaps kill the Chancellor.

Perhaps the Clone Wars explain the character of Dooku, but I DON’T WATCH IT.

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#951038
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Is the Despecialized Edition more important than an official release?
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It’s an interesting question. I suppose we should ask ‘important to whom?’

For people who want to watch the original film but are opposed to acquiring any fan reconstruction or preservation, an official release is absolutely more important to them than Despecialized.

For people who just want to watch the original film regardless of where it comes from, Despecialized is just as important as an official release.

For people who appreciate the work of dedicated fans more than profit-minded studio execs, Despecialized is more important than an official release.

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#950696
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What is wrong with... <strong>Attack of the Clones</strong>? - a general discussion thread
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There is also the small thing that Palpatine needed the Jedi to discover the clones so that he could start his war. As I understand it, Palpatine ordered Jango to use the toxic dart on Zam with the knowledge that the Jedi would eventually trace it to Kamino. He also must have ordered Dooku to erase the planet from the archives, which would draw attention to itself when combined with the existence of the dart. It then follows that Palpatine must have ordered Jango to go to Kamino and wait for the Jedi to show up, and then lead the Jedi to Geonosis so that the war could begin. It sounds really contrived when put in those terms, but that’s George Lucas for you.

If anyone has another reason why Jango would singlehandedly lead the Jedi into a war, I’m all ears.