NeverarGreat

Our family was in Dingle between the Ep 7 shoot and the reshoots, and if you go up to Eask Tower, you can just see the Skelligs.

There’s no public path up to it so you have to cut across some sheep pasture, but the lady who lives there was very friendly and even helped us wash the sheep dung off our shoes after we got back. Hopefully all the new tourist attention hasn’t driven her mad.

I would recommend if you have the time taking a whole day in Dingle to just take Slea Head drive around the peninsula, it’s breathtaking and only a little harrowing.

We ended up doing too much on our ten day trip, going from Trim to Dublin to Kilkenny to Cashel to Dingle to Galway to Westport and back to Ennis. If you only have ten days, I’d recommend just going to a few places and staying for two or three nights each.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/28/star-wars-the-force-alluded-to

NEVERAR AGREES WITH THIS OPINION.

COMPUTERFRINK HAS NOTHING ON HULK GIMMICK.

DominicCobb said:

Also Akira admittedly is one hell of a movie. Don’t have much interest in anime though. Not crazy about tentacles.

The style of a lot of anime from the 80’s to the mid 90’s I find particularly appealing. This is from Magnetic Rose:


The detail is reminiscent of the greebling done on Star Wars miniatures, at least to me.

Also there’s One Punch Man, which is highly recommended:

It’s a humorous and intelligent commentary on many genres of anime, especially the more derivative ‘Shonen’ genre. Good animation here as well.

All this hate on anime and I’m all

Some good ones:
Akira
Attack on Titan
Ghost in the Shell
Howl’s Moving Castle
Magnetic Rose (from Memories)
Mushi-Shi
etc.

There are a lot of bad and derivative ones out there, like any type of media.
Full disclosure, I was morally opposed to anime through high school, since my art style was highly realistic and I hated the distorted (and I thought, lazy) style of anime characters, especially as drawn by my classmates. But life happens and ideas change, and now I happily watch anime on occasion as well as live action films and TV shows.

Density said:

TV’s Frink said:

Density said:

The colors aren’t a big deal to me, especially not the 97 version which had great and highly accurate colors apparently. But even the Blu-ray, to be honest I didn’t even know people took issues with the colors until I joined this site.

I take it you’ve never looked at the lightsabers then.

Well frankly I have hardly watched the official Blu-ray or DVD at all, and it’s been years, so no not really. I just didn’t see anything that jumped out at me as awful from what I remember, but then again I was too impressed by the improved detail and resolution compared to VHS to focus on that much. I didn’t even know that the colors were unfaithful to what was originally shown in theaters.

This.
I had downloaded the Wookiegroomer versions of the HDTV broadcasts for the trilogy before the Blu-rays came out in 2011, and I was so impressed with the detail that I didn’t even notice how terrible the color and contrast was even compared to the 2004 DVD until much later. After that, and after seeing the Senator Theater screenshots, I quickly realized what I’d been missing.

After gathering a bunch of references, it looks as if the earliest examples of the film have a greenish tint to them. I actually had to reduce the green of the bootleg to balance the colors somewhat:

And here’s the attempt with a single set of adjustments:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176880
And with slightly less yellow:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176882
Finally one that has less green in the shadows:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176886

I have no idea which one is more correct.

yoda-sama said:

While yes, there may be a bit too much yellow (in the star destroyer, mostly), I think this might be about the best attempt yet.

I don’t think that there’s any getting away from the yellow in the star destroyer without making Tatooine too blue, unfortunately.

What I mean by the Anoat system being a planetary system (as opposed to a solar system) is that it’s a system which consists of a planet and its moons. So the Bespin and Anoat planets (and their satellites) both orbit the same star as the Ice Planet, and this entire system is called the Hoth system. However, since they have just left the asteroid field when Leia asks where they are, it may be that the Anoat system was once a planet but this got destroyed and it is now the asteroid field.

And yeah, all this is pretty far from the purview of the filmmakers, but it’s fun to try and fit the pieces into a plausible model instead of the Flash Gordon-y vagueness that it is currently. The only reason I consider that sub lightspeed travel must take a long time is that if it didn’t, Han and company would cross a single solar system within hours at a large fraction of the speed of light, yet their journey would still take years if they had to travel between solar systems. Given that the plot purpose of a long trip to Bespin was so that Luke could have a reasonable amount of time to train with Yoda, the speed of spaceships in Star Wars is then limited based on how long you think it should take to train Luke.

ZkinandBonez said:

NeverarGreat said:

My idea of the timescales of ESB hinges on the assumption that Bespin is a planet in the Hoth system:

Well, while attached to the Star Destroyer Han says that they’re in the “Anoat system” so they clearly left the Hoth system when escaping into the asteroid field.
According to the EU (both versions) Bespin is in the Bespin System which is in the Anoat Sector.
Either way, Bespin is at least not in the Hoth system.
That would regardless have made Han’s “it’s pretty far, but I think we could make it” statement pretty pointless if it was simply in the same solar system.

The Anoat system could be another planetary system in the Hoth solar system. I’d say that’s actually quite likely given that their passage from the Ice Planet into the asteroids and then their escape from the asteroids are both short sequences. I don’t expect that they could have gotten very far, and certainly not into another solar system light years away.

As for the EU:

My attempt:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/176821

My idea of the timescales of ESB hinges on the assumption that Bespin is a planet in the Hoth system:

My lord, the fleet has moved out
of light-speed. Com-Scan has
detected an energy field protecting
an area around the sixth planet of
the Hoth system. The field is
strong enough to deflect any
bombardment.

The word ‘system’ in Star Wars can refer to either a planet or an entire solar system. So if this is the case, Bespin wouldn’t be more than a few AU’s away from the Ice Planet of Hoth. Presumably Bespin is closer to the star, past a particularly dense asteroid belt which separates it from the unnamed Ice Planet. It is highly unrealistic for Bespin to be located in another star system entirely, since star systems are usually light years apart. This would require Luke to train on Dagobah for over a year, regardless of the time dilation effects on board the Falcon. Alternatively, if the Falcon traveled at the speed of light across only the Hoth the system, it would probably take less than an hour to make the trip. At even 1/4 the speed of light, this trip wouldn’t need to take more than a day or two.

Of course, this fast travel time implies that either Luke’s training was very brief, or that the Falcon couldn’t accelerate to even a significant fraction of the speed of light. I’d bet on the latter, since the ships in the Star Wars universe act more like they are in an atmosphere than in a vacuum, and thus don’t act as if under constant acceleration with constant thrust. For the purposes of the story, ships have ‘full throttle’ which is their top speed, and even at full throttle the Falcon takes quite a while to make a journey across the Hoth system.

There are several other reasons why the story wouldn’t take months: Vader couldn’t realistically continue a search for that long with so many valuable Imperial resources, rebel forces most likely wouldn’t wait around at the rendezvous point for weeks on end, and it would be highly irresponsible of Luke to abandon his troops for such an extended period of time.

TL;DR: ESB takes place over several weeks at the most, more likely no more than two weeks.

Totally serious title idea: Hosnian Shot Last

DuracellEnergizer said:

"“Luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter.”

Best incorporation of Gnostic philosophy in SW EVER.

This is why nobody’s personal cannon can ever justifiably exclude ESB. Yoda IS the Force.

If you’re looking for just general TFA art that could work as a cover, I created this yesterday:

There’s another that I made with a two color scheme.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Episode-7-Fan-Posters-Thread/id/15196#957885

Earl said:

On a less serious note, Youtube seems to continue changing their layout without warning as usual

“What did you just say? About Mein Kampf?”

Darth Id said:

Tyrphanax said:

Inconsistency is the name of the game for their edits.

I think the official title is actually, “Cringeworthy Revisionist Aimless Pointless Obscurantist Laughable Amateurism.”

FTFY, because acronyms.

^^ Thank you for making my point for me with the official TFA poster. Incidentally I happen to like the Yoda-less ESB poster more than the one with Yoda, but that’s mostly because I like the coloration of that one more.

But I should clarify my original statement. I simply think that a poster is stronger when it features the actual leads in the film or visually illustrates broad themes, rather than specifically including characters given as an emotional reward to the audience at the end of the film. The same thing applies, perhaps to a lesser extent, to the ROTS poster. I feel that it would be stronger without the giant mask in the background. It doesn’t matter if you know Vader, or Luke, will make an appearance or not.

TV’s Frink said:

Why would he be on the poster? It’s not like he was in the movie or had anything to do with it OH WAIT HE WAS AND HE DID.

I have this poster on my wall, and it’s one of my favorites. But you know who’s conspicuously absent? Yoda. The makers of this film knew even then that he was one of the best things about this movie, so they wanted to preserve his reveal as much as possible, to the extent of holding back on putting his image on promotional materials. Granted, they later put his face on ROTJ’s VHS cover, but this was years after the sequel came out. My point is that much of the interest for this movie is the question of what Luke looks like after all these years, and so to see him on the poster lessens the impact of seeing him at the end of the film.

SilverWook said:

Old school visual FX are back, baby!
http://thecreatorsproject.vice.com/blog/sci-fi-legend-finds-outer-space-in-a-fish-tank

I was looking forward to this movie based on the fact that it was an introspective sci fi movie starring Mark Strong (which makes it sound like a spiritual prequel to Sunshine, one of my favorite movies) but knowing that it also uses practical effects to such an extent brings that to a new level.

I wonder if it wasn’t just that the effects people had accidentally turned some layers off for the film and DVD and turned them back on for the Blu-ray. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Is anyone else bothered by the idea that Han and Chewie would just stand idly by and take time out of their day to question Maz about a lightsaber while they know that the First Order is about to occupy the castle?

I feel like a quick cutaway to Kylo ordering his agent to sabotage escaping ships and later a single explosion wouldn’t be that much more difficult. I bet the guys at Auralnauts could provide the voice for this line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicXlvJBdo) and I could do the VFX for the shots if nobody else is interested.

Here’s the previous rough mockup in case anyone missed it: https://vimeo.com/170422931 Password: Kylo

^ Same here, although Han looks oddly dopey and they shouldn’t put Luke on any posters for this movie.

In the prequels, I’d edit the end of ROTS so that Padme doesn’t die.

In the originals, my one change must be two, the first of which is to have the first Death Star only partially destroyed. The second change is of course to the crawl of ROTJ to indicate that the Empire is repairing the First Death Star instead of building another one.

IsanRido said:

Yes, it has gotten worse. The extra cartoon aliens, the Blu’s DNR, “pretty hot”, etc. If I’m not mistaken, the colours are as messed up as the OT, too.

As for Yoda, however different Yoda looked from the OT, the special effect was still well executed. He was there with Samuel and the others, and the mannerisms were top notch.

The colors of the blu-ray are very strange, with many parts of the film having a purple tint and others (especially the Tatooine scenes) being brown and desaturated, to the point that some gradients may be gone.

And yes, CPY was a decent effect, so I’m torn on how I feel about that.