Hardcore Legend said:

Is the musical cue for Binary Twin Sunset derived from some other piece or was it a 100% unique creation? Because, still, to this day it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I’ve ever heard.

I assume you’re talking about the Force theme and not William’s first attempt at the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYXLmHmTrzU

I don’t know if the Force theme had its inspiration in an earlier piece, that would be interesting to learn.

Hal 9000 said:

I’m kinda getting sick of all this Star Wars shit.

I haven’t had a desire to watch anything Star Wars related for months now. Not to sound like some of the more curmudgeonly members of this board but I genuinely believe that it is because there is no longer an overarching vision (however flawed) which governs this universe. The movies are filled with things that the filmmakers (who are Star Wars fans) want to see, or believe that the other Star Wars fans in the audience want to see. The corporate impulse, which has always hovered over the franchise, has become the soul of the franchise. I doubt that even The Last Jedi can return the franchise to its previous state, since Rian Johnson is not the architect of the ST. The best thing to do is either ignore the new films or view them merely as enjoyable products rather than artistic statements, something that most of the moviegoing public has no problem with anyway.

With that bit of cynicism out of the way, my honest opinion is that I’d rather live in a universe with TFA and RO than one without them, since TFA gave us the big three again alongside some good new characters and another great John Williams score. Who knows how many more of those we will get, with Williams in his 80’s. This past year has shown us that we shouldn’t take time for granted, so I’m even okay with moving fast on the rest of the ST. I’d appreciate if they held the spinoffs for after the ST, since I think that dilutes interest in the ongoing story, but if that’s the price of an ST with Williams and Hamill and Ridley et all, then so be it. Besides, if they fall short of our high expectations there is always the potential to fanedit 😉

^Those are very good points. I hadn’t considered new users not even seeing the Topics page. In that case, have you considered adding a page between the ‘register’ button and the sign-up form that gives some helpful info? Something as simple as this would be nice:

Welcome to our community! Before we get started, did you know:

If you’re completely new to the forums, the General Star Wars Discussion is a great place to start.

If you’re interested in a particular project, some of the most popular are available on public torrent sites, no registration required. Many smaller projects are hosted on Myspleen.org, and you can ask for an invite here after you’ve registered.

(‘Yes, I’ve got it!’ button)

Warbler said:

They should have just stuck with the Tobey Maguire version and connected that to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Those movies were pretty good(with exception of the 3rd).

MovieBob had the same idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tJ6FlVq054&t=524s

One idea could be that when new users sign up they are either directed to the New Users thread or some of these points are provided on the screen when the account is created.

That seems like a lot of posts for the mods to deal with. Perhaps 5-10, or even 3-7 would be more reasonable, and would catch the ask-and-run folks by default.

What do the mods think? Is this an onerous responsibility?

The trouble with the line is that it is shouted in an echo-y room.

With regards to the music, if changing it around like has been suggested doesn’t work, we could put the Ackbar line back in its original location. Then cut immediately to the fighter battle as usual. The only issue would be the ‘revenge’ angle but it’s minor enough that it may be worth it.

yhwx said:

You’d get lonely pretty quick.

I like that they didn’t even try to give a reason for the fire placement.

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

Good idea, but good luck getting people to read it.

This is the crux of the issue. If new users won’t do what regulars want them to do, we shouldn’t fight it, in fact, we should embrace it.

So should we just accept a constant flow of requests in project threads? I know that there’s always going to be a certain percentage who will never get the message, but surely there’s a way to work on the margins to make it as easy as possible for people to follow the rules.

The ‘Requesting Invites’ topic clearly doesn’t work well enough for newcomers to this forum. Perhaps something like this, with the title very large:

Want to get a project? Read this first!

Welcome to the OT forums! In the interest of promoting good human-cyborg relations, there are some simple points of etiquette and protocol that you would be wise to follow here:

1. If you are interested in a popular project such as the Star Wars Despecialized editions and don’t wish to contribute to this community, such projects are often available to download on public torrent sites.

2. If your project of choice is unavailable publicly, create an account on these forums (Check this for some username ideas). Don’t ask for an invite or link in a project thread! See below for proper request technique.

3. Consider reading and commenting in some threads which interest you before asking for any links or invites, so that you can get a feel for what’s happening. It is not necessary for getting links for a project or an invite, but it often helps.

4. Most projects on this site are available from Myspleen.org. To get an invite for this, read the fist post of this thread, and post your request there. Remember to edit your post after you have an invite.

And that’s it! Be courteous and considerate and the Force will be with you.
Always.

Adapted from this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/18psv7/quadriplegic_jokes_ive_gathered_from_over_the/

Actual quote from the Matrix Reloaded:
“The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being.”

I can’t totally hate a movie that straight-up admits that the first Matrix was an exception.

“Hey Anakin, what do you call a quadriplegic in a volcano?”

…

“Cole.”

But with the original, Lucas was never replaced and he stuck to his very specific tone.

Just when I think I’ve heard everything about remixing the prequels, someone comes along with a brilliant idea.

The Mace angle would be very cool to see in action. I doubt it could be pulled off in the films, but one thing that could change is that Mace would have a red lightsaber (or very close to red) which differentiates him from the other Jedi. After all, there’s nothing in the films that states that only Sith must wield red. This makes his association with Darth Vader even stronger.

I am imagining the Saturday Morning Episode III except that we don’t see Mace’s defenestration. Palpatine shouts ‘UNLIMITED POWERRRR’ and then cut to the next scene. The implication upon watching ANH is that Mace was so suborned by Palpatines’s power that he had no choice but to serve the Emperor.

The problem with this interpretation is that Mace is clearly older than Obi-wan, and Obi-wan said that Vader was a young Jedi and his pupil. So either Mace would have to be dramatically de-aged (possible, but it undercuts his authority in the council and is less believable in the OT) or Obi-wan must be quite a bit older. I think both things would have to happen. Mace would have to be in his 30’s, and Obi-wan would need to be in his 50’s. This actually makes more sense than the continuity of the prequels, since we are supposed to believe that Obi-wan ages from 35 to 75 in the span of 19 years. If Obi-wan was aged appropriately, he could genuinely be a father figure to Anakin.

So I tried the ‘all groups’ approach:
https://vimeo.com/223226894
Password: groups

Center Channel audio:
https://mega.nz/#!KFVgnaKD!iKfRqU5IwSOdR8t5jj6QNk4_X-fkVbntWxTItliE81c
Final audio:
https://mega.nz/#!SAsxgRRQ!zB-HmMR9odtIccBmJPjqwDqZWyhIw1HnPPgZCcedg4g

It is more understandable, but there’s a lot of engine noise in the background that I wasn’t able to filter out completely.

The combination of ‘all’ and ‘fighters’ doesn’t work at all.

I think that some introductory dialogue from Ackbar is necessary here, since otherwise there is only a radio effect to imply that he’s speaking to the fighters. There are some other options for introductory dialogue such as ‘all groups’, or you could combine ‘all’ with ‘ships’ which he says during the TFA briefing.

It was part of V1. The attack on the Oscillator in V1 occurs where it did in the original movie - in the middle of the lightsaber battle. It probably needs to stay there because of the environmental destruction that happens as a result.

This scene juggling really highlights how there are tradeoffs and islands of stability in fanediting. There simply is no one best place to put this ‘damaged but still functional’ scene, since you’re breaking up the musical continuity of the film one way or another.

It’s really good!

The only issue I sense is with the music cutting from the space battle to Finn and Rey, since there are two similar chords right next to each other. Even though the music overlaying the distant shot of the Oscillator is correct, it feels off in this short scene and the transition just makes it worse. Would it work to use the music from the Ackbar shot and simply extend that through the rest of the scene? The ‘weapon will fire in 2 minutes’ dialogue is of similar length to what replaces it.

Here is the original line taken from the central channel of Despecialized, and also the final version which has been slowed down and filtered to remove most of the music and give it a radio sound:
https://mega.nz/#F!qAMwSDhS!OzuT_qoynTS0j3fH_e7UbQ

The reason I removed the whole thing was that I still felt the absence of the first half of his line. But I think it works equally well with the whole, half, or absent line, so I’ll leave it to someone with stronger feelings to decide 😉

A real attempt at bringing ‘all craft’ in line with the rest of the dialogue:
https://vimeo.com/223086082
Password: kraft

I figured taking out all the dialogue of the other pilot helps to simplify the scene, and if we can make the Snoke scene fit after the Oscillator breach this scene will fit right back in where it used to be.

suspiciouscoffee said:

ADDED

Children of Dune by Frank Herbert

Good addition.

dahmage said:

NeverarGreat said:

The Last Unicorn (1982)

Wonderful fantasy. I didn’t care for most of the songs - they didn’t fit the tone of the movie very well - but the dialogue is exceptionally well written and the visuals are often beautiful.

One out of one unicorn.

I have been told, on two wholly separate occasions, that I remind people of Prince Lir.

I try to not be insulted by this.

At least you don’t remind them of King Haggard 😉