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#1135566
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Here’s an idea: cut back to the Resistance planning room right after Snoke says “Bring her to me.” Since they’ve just been talking about the reconnaissance ship and the Resistance Base, it makes a lot of sense. Then after the Han/Leia farewell scene show the establishing shot of the TIE’s over the the Starkiller Base mountains from earlier (where I assume it’s been deleted in favor of the planetary establishing shot), then cut to Rey’s mind trick scene. This also gives Rey more time to figure out how to mind trick the guard and less time aimlessly wandering around the base.

@Dominic: I think sometimes we worry too much about confusing the audience. I know I do 😉 But the plan before the reconnaissance ship was to destroy the Republic, so it’s pretty clear that it’s still in their crosshairs.

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#1135461
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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On a different note, and maybe for V3, is the issue of the First Order knowing the location of the Resistance Base. This will still need to be explained somehow. Previously I’ve tried to include a scene where Hux talks to Snoke after the Oscillator attack and they decide to destroy the Resistance. However in addition to requiring all-new Hux dialogue this has the issue of diminishing one of the benefits of this edit which differentiates itself from ANH.

Another solution would be to rearrange some scenes so that both the Republic and the Ileenium system are potential targets at the same time. Here’s how it could work:

(Optional) Move the first Snoke scene (and the reveal of the Starkiller) to just after the introduction of Leia. This makes more sense anyway, since the Finalizer should have been hunting for the Falcon instead of returning to base for a few lines of exposition. The scene would play out exactly as before except without the line “The droid we seek is on board the Millennium Falcon in the hands of…”. The reason for moving this is so that Snoke’s dialogue is re-contextualized to imply that he knows about Kylo’s abandoning of the droid.

Hux goes to oversee preparations, and the Starkiller charging sequence happens just before Rey’s interrogation, with the target being the Republic as usual.

After the interrogation, the scene with Snoke would be similar to the theatrical version:
“The scavenger resisted you!”
“She is strong with the Force! Untrained but stronger than she knows.”
“Ren believed that the girl was all we needed. As a result, the droid has been returned to the hands of the enemy. They may have the map already.”
“Then the Resistance must be destroyed before they get to Skywalker.”
“We have their position. We tracked their reconnaissance ship to the Ileenium system.”
“Good. Then we will crush them once and for all.”
“Supreme Leader. I can get the map from the girl. I just need your guidance.”
“If what you say about this girl is true, bring her to me.”

Finally, keeping the 30 seconds to fire scene with Hux would clearly establish that the weapon was still operational, and had enough juice for another shot.

I can think of several more benefits to this rearrangement. First, Snoke is not being kept in the dark about Kylo’s abandoning the quest for the droid - Hux merely hammers home the point that Ren’s plan had failed. Second, the choice of which planet to destroy first is left ambiguous and it’s reasonable to assume that the decision would be left in Hux’s court. This gives the character real consequences for his hubris, since he was aware of the threat posed by the Resistance and destroys the Republic first anyway. Third, since there are now two planets at stake, a first-time audience may be truly worried for Leia’s fate, especially if they know that a major character is killed in the third act. Fourth, the extended Hosnian destruction sequence would gain a new meaning as characters on D’Qar realized that they might be victims of the first firing.

Finally, the decision of Hux and the ambiguity of the target system could not happen with ‘another Death Star’ - this dramatic situation could only occur with this type of hyper-lightspeed weapon. In other words, the Starkiller might finally live up to its potential in this edit.

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#1135358
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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I think most people would agree that something about unmasked Vader looks off, and it’s been off from 1983 to present. Whatever visual change is implemented, the audience should probably feel pity and empathy at the human who has suffered so much with the consequences of their past mistakes.

In keeping with the stated purposes of this edit, whatever is done should lend more realism to the scene, so I’d suggest having places on his head where the helmet has rubbed the skin raw, such as around the cheeks and perhaps the sides of his head. I’d imagine that just having had a long and difficult fight, he would be sweating profusely. And finally, since we see the Emperor’s electricity coursing through his skull, there should be freshly burned areas of skin on his head.