NeverarGreat

Mrebo said:

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^ Best point I ever made.

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

Even if Finn makes it, in a melted skimmer I can’t see how that’d do much.

And I meant there are other ways to blow open that big ass door, I’m sure.

It looked like just peripheries like the guns. Fuselage was intact just prior to Rose’s interception.
They are practically at the mouth of the cannon. I have trouble buying he wasn’t going to make it or he wasn’t going to do much damage.

I guess this really does come down to individual perception. I just didn’t see it the same way you did.

Well obviously the reaction says they could have made this clearer, as many people have misinterpreted the scene. I took it, when Poe called it off as a “suicide mission,” that it wasn’t worth it, and that’s all I needed to know and the rest could easily be assumed without being stated outright.

I feel like you shouldn’t act as if you’re 100% right and everyone else is wrong. What if you’re the one that misinterpreted it? (I’m not saying that’s the case here)

I can’t imagine how that would be the case, as the whole point of the scene is the culmination of Poe’s arc. If people think that Poe is a coward or that Rose doomed everyone, well I think it’s obvious that wasn’t the filmmakers’ intention.

The intention is there, if you think about it. But the problem is the execution. It’s very unforgiving for people who are on the fence about it to begin with, and are less willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

You’re VERY welcome 😃

Yeah, I was noticing that. If you send me a rip of that scene from the blu-ray that’s the same length as the previous one, I can switch it out no problem. 😃

TV’s Frink said:

I try to post in every thread to maximize my income.

Figured there had to be some incentive.

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Handman said:

I don’t understand why we have two Last Jedi discussion threads?

One was created for discussion before the movie was released; the other was created after the movie was released. Not really needed to delete this one, since there’s plenty of good discussion here.

Also, technically one is for discussion and the other is for review.
But I think the key difference at this point is that the review thread is toxic, and the discussion thread is not (yet.)

I try to post non-opinion Episode 8 news here, and everything else in the review thread.

Posting the Sunset Kiss scene here as well, since it’s technically the correct thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1156981

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

Haha the gif of the movie

I think you mean this:

(spoiler)

I hadn’t noticed that the camera rolled as it went to Hyperspace. Nice nod to the original film.

Here’s a version of the kiss scene at dusk. I tried to match this image:


I have two versions of the video, here’s the first, the one I’m most happy with:

https://mega.nz/#!GQlSmS4J!luBluderZeOJglzTX7Qf0mRCm9XL6NfpvjyctQO_4gg

The other one is a bit more purple. Let me know which one you prefer, if any.
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WWWNNN8X

DominicCobb said:

When Finn gets into kamikaze mode, we see the ram start to tear his skimmer apart. It’s clear he won’t even make it, let alone blow the whole thing up.

Even if he did, there’s no doubt that the FO would find another way in. The goal was just to buy some time to make contact with their allies. They were fucked either way before Luke arrived.

You say these things as if they are certainties, yet they are anything but certain. Rose intercepts Finn’s speeder right before it enters the machine, and they’re crashed almost right beside it. It isn’t clear to me that he wouldn’t make it.

Similarly, it’s a plot point that there’s no other way into the base, at least until Rey uses space magic.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I consider myself quite liberal. However, I would be perfectly fine with a conservative president who wasn’t also an anti-environmental Bible thumper. It perplexes me why “conservative” has come to be associated largely with these two things. I’m fine with the concept of less government and more freedoms, but I’m not religious and don’t see the logic in governing our country with a 2000-year-old unchanging cryptic Aramaic hodge-podge that nobody even has an original copy of. I also consider our planet a beautiful and precious place and want leaders who care that it be preserved for the future… why isn’t that considered “conservative”?

Pretty much this.

I don’t think I’d mind nearly as much at how personally terrible this president is if he at least cared about the planet. I still wouldn’t vote for him, but his bloviating could more safely be ignored.

The way it works is you have to speak specific sentences, and quite a few of them, to even get a close approximation. It’s designed to prevent prerecorded audio from being used (and abused).

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a847167/star-wars-mark-hamill-original-force-awakens-ending-luke-skywalker-the-force-last-jedi/

So JJ wanted Luke on the island to learn some wizard Jedi moves. Rian disagreed.

Interesting.

There’s a beta of this sort of thing here, so if anyone thinks they can do a great Anakin impression, we’re already set: https://lyrebird.ai/

I bet the difference of opinion that people have over Rose saving Finn largely comes down to whether they believe that there was a chance of Finn disabling the gun.

Those who viewed it as a sacrifice with a chance of disabling the weapon probably have issues with Rose. Those that viewed it as a pointless attack with no chance of disabling the weapon are probably okay with Rose, since she prevented a senseless waste of life.

I’m torn on it. I don’t think it’s well communicated that his attack would have no effect, only that it’s a suicide mission.

I thought that the reason Luke considered killing Kylo was that he really was completely corrupted, and the reason he stopped was that he realized he’d be killing his own nephew. Luke’s action merely formalized Kylo’s inevitable turn and gave him a rationalization for his later evil.

Fair enough 😃 the Shmi already dead idea would be more efficient for sure.

One of the worst things about this movie for me is that Anakin basically turns to the Dark Side when he murders the Sand People. I remember seeing it the first time and thinking ‘well, I guess he’s evil now’. Then he admits this genocide to Padme, and she says, and I quote “To be angry is to be human.” Um, what? The guy just confessed to genocide.

So one idea I had to fix this is was that the slaughter could be played as a dream.

How it might work:

End Shmi’s death scene before Anakin becomes genocidal, then cut to Obi-wan’s story for a bit. When it cuts back, the nightmare scene from Naboo happens here, recolored to appear more in line with the interior of the homestead. It might actually help sell the idea to have Yoda picking up on his pain during this scene. Then we have the garage scene, and remove the present tense ‘they’re dead’, which implies that it wasn’t just a dream. Leave everything else that is in the past tense. Since there’s still some ambiguity as to whether it was just a dream, one final change would be a cutaway to Padme after she asks what’s wrong, where Anakin says ‘nightmares’.

That would have been a nice bit of context, even if the last few lines are overkill.

Leave it off, probably. Nobody was too concerned when it fell off the first time, and didn’t even notice this time.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

I seriously doubt that any new Star Wars movie will threaten TFA/RO at the box office.

TFA sure, be a long time till anything touches that, but RO? Really?

I’m putting them in different categories. Obviously Episodic releases have a better chance of outperforming spinoffs.

I seriously doubt that any new Star Wars movie will threaten TFA/RO at the box office.

Edited joke for clarity.

Warbler said:

Of course it is possible she could win. Look at who she’d be running against.

Yeah, but President Pence would have the Evangelical vote.

grafxuser said:

REPORT-SW-v2.7
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I have watched mkv V2.7 and the theatrical release on dvd and noticed there are some issues with the colour correction on some of the scenes in particular the first scene we see Obi-Wan Kenobi.

His skin tones are very similar to the background (sepia color) and R2-D2 blues is dull/dark.

The landspeeder seems to have lost it slight red tone. I am unsure if it’s most of the scene.

R2’s blue panels were oddly desaturated in that shot in the Blu-ray, so it required special attention in my project. What probably happened here was an effect of an overagressive global blue/pink reduction, which had already affected many of the skin tones before the file was handed over to Harmy.