NeverarGreat

I’m sorry to hear this. What is it with video editors and constant crashes? I have to use the 2014 version of Premiere Pro because any later version refuses to work with my computer, and bluescreen of death has become a predictable event. Oh, and any serious rending must be done on a borrowed computer because my graphics card is shot. I really need to get my tower upgraded.

Anyway, I hope FCP10 is a better solution for you going forward.

It wouldn’t have been the first time Luke has taken on walkers. 😃

JEDIT: And honestly, it seems like the story of how Luke took down a walker single-handedly would be a more widely-known legend, considering it was witnessed by the Rebellion that would have gone on to rule the galaxy and that it would have had decades to spread and grow.

I see.

DominicCobb said:

The only open hostility towards religion I see comes from Republicans against Muslims.

I’ve seen quite a bit of left wing hostility towards organized religion, so it exists, especially in academia.

ChainsawAsh said:

Except that the kids playing with the Luke doll are reenacting the Crait “duel” between Luke and Ben.

I can’t recall the dialogue during this scene. Do they reference it specifically? Even if so, it might be interesting to see this beforehand as a foreshadowing of how Luke literally steps into the form of his own legend.

Thank you!

If you are talking about the Stormtroopers in Maz’s basement, I’m not putting that back in since it’s not even a complete scene.

Because I can’t stop thinking about the scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1M95njhovw

One theory is that it takes more space for a ship to accelerate to light speed than the distance between the Raddus and the Supremacy, so it would only be going a small fraction of the speed of light at impact. Of course, that doesn’t fix the problem of weaponizing the hyperdrive.

So I imagine Hyperspace as a different dimension entirely, and ships accelerate along a non-Euclidean vector causing them to only weakly interfere with normal matter. So, most of the Raddus’s mass was already in Hyperspace at impact, making it much less violent.

Collipso said:

A not so gentle restructure.

I just can’t think of anything essential in the Resistance base evacuation and resulting scenes that can’t be more effectively implied through the passage of time.

Also, I think opening the movie on Canto Bight would give it an entirely different feel - there are many movies which open on some scene that doesn’t end up being very consequential, but the point of the scene would merely be to re-establish these characters and their new roles. The expositional nature of the scenes would also function as further set up for the story and the universe instead of a distraction from our main characters.

I really want to play with the idea of moving the scene of the kids playing with the Luke doll, maybe as a way to segue back to our heroes in prison. So after ending the first scenes on Canto Bight with Finn and Rose’s imprisonment and then introducing Luke’s unexpected nihilism, to then cut back to these kids imagining Luke as a hero might be a really effective juxtaposition.

MalàStrana said:

Only III-VI don’t really look alike… so is IX going to be quite different as well ? I certainly hope so.

This is also my hope.

Here’s a crawl which would communicate some of this information:

The FIRST ORDER reigns.
Having destroyed the
peaceful Republic, Supreme
Leader Snoke now deploys
his merciless legions to seize
military control of the galaxy.

Taking command of the
last of the Republic fleet,
General Leia Organa flees
deep into uncharted space,
awaiting the return of
Jedi Master Luke Skywalker
to restore hope to the fight.

Fearing that they cannot evade
the First Order for long, Poe
Dameron has disobeyed orders
and sent two operatives to the
casino city of Canto Bight,
where a shrewd gambler may
hold the key to their escape…

Then have the Casino scenes up until they are jailed, then cut to Luke and Rey, then after some time has passed on the island cut to Leia traveling through hyperspace.

Interestingly, this makes TLJ much more of ESB in reverse, since the Resistance begins in deep space just as the Rebels ended in deep space.

The ships in the Sequel Trilogy make sense for the most part.

The biggest change I wish they’d made was to have a different ‘main ship’ other than the Millennium Falcon. The Prequels had the Naboo cruisers, which fit the style of a more civilized time. The Millennium Falcon fit the style of a used and broken-down universe suffering under an Empire. This trilogy could have used a ship like that, such as a scavenged and modified Imperial Shuttle that Rey would use to search the wrecks. It would have been reminiscent of Luke’s Skyhopper while still making sense in universe.

I imagine something like this but with extra cargo space and some Rebel/Republic designs painted on the wings.

This whole discussion could have been avoided if there was a blinking indicator or something that told Poe that the ship wouldn’t do enough damage to destroy the weapon. Something that changed the conditions so that Finn would still be heroic and Rose would be sensible.

Mrebo said:

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^ Best point I ever made.

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

Even if Finn makes it, in a melted skimmer I can’t see how that’d do much.

And I meant there are other ways to blow open that big ass door, I’m sure.

It looked like just peripheries like the guns. Fuselage was intact just prior to Rose’s interception.
They are practically at the mouth of the cannon. I have trouble buying he wasn’t going to make it or he wasn’t going to do much damage.

I guess this really does come down to individual perception. I just didn’t see it the same way you did.

Well obviously the reaction says they could have made this clearer, as many people have misinterpreted the scene. I took it, when Poe called it off as a “suicide mission,” that it wasn’t worth it, and that’s all I needed to know and the rest could easily be assumed without being stated outright.

I feel like you shouldn’t act as if you’re 100% right and everyone else is wrong. What if you’re the one that misinterpreted it? (I’m not saying that’s the case here)

I can’t imagine how that would be the case, as the whole point of the scene is the culmination of Poe’s arc. If people think that Poe is a coward or that Rose doomed everyone, well I think it’s obvious that wasn’t the filmmakers’ intention.

The intention is there, if you think about it. But the problem is the execution. It’s very unforgiving for people who are on the fence about it to begin with, and are less willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

You’re VERY welcome 😃

Yeah, I was noticing that. If you send me a rip of that scene from the blu-ray that’s the same length as the previous one, I can switch it out no problem. 😃

TV’s Frink said:

I try to post in every thread to maximize my income.

Figured there had to be some incentive.

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Handman said:

I don’t understand why we have two Last Jedi discussion threads?

One was created for discussion before the movie was released; the other was created after the movie was released. Not really needed to delete this one, since there’s plenty of good discussion here.

Also, technically one is for discussion and the other is for review.
But I think the key difference at this point is that the review thread is toxic, and the discussion thread is not (yet.)

I try to post non-opinion Episode 8 news here, and everything else in the review thread.

Posting the Sunset Kiss scene here as well, since it’s technically the correct thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1156981

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

Haha the gif of the movie

I think you mean this:

(spoiler)

I hadn’t noticed that the camera rolled as it went to Hyperspace. Nice nod to the original film.

Here’s a version of the kiss scene at dusk. I tried to match this image:


I have two versions of the video, here’s the first, the one I’m most happy with:

https://mega.nz/#!GQlSmS4J!luBluderZeOJglzTX7Qf0mRCm9XL6NfpvjyctQO_4gg

The other one is a bit more purple. Let me know which one you prefer, if any.
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WWWNNN8X

DominicCobb said:

When Finn gets into kamikaze mode, we see the ram start to tear his skimmer apart. It’s clear he won’t even make it, let alone blow the whole thing up.

Even if he did, there’s no doubt that the FO would find another way in. The goal was just to buy some time to make contact with their allies. They were fucked either way before Luke arrived.

You say these things as if they are certainties, yet they are anything but certain. Rose intercepts Finn’s speeder right before it enters the machine, and they’re crashed almost right beside it. It isn’t clear to me that he wouldn’t make it.

Similarly, it’s a plot point that there’s no other way into the base, at least until Rey uses space magic.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I consider myself quite liberal. However, I would be perfectly fine with a conservative president who wasn’t also an anti-environmental Bible thumper. It perplexes me why “conservative” has come to be associated largely with these two things. I’m fine with the concept of less government and more freedoms, but I’m not religious and don’t see the logic in governing our country with a 2000-year-old unchanging cryptic Aramaic hodge-podge that nobody even has an original copy of. I also consider our planet a beautiful and precious place and want leaders who care that it be preserved for the future… why isn’t that considered “conservative”?

Pretty much this.

I don’t think I’d mind nearly as much at how personally terrible this president is if he at least cared about the planet. I still wouldn’t vote for him, but his bloviating could more safely be ignored.

The way it works is you have to speak specific sentences, and quite a few of them, to even get a close approximation. It’s designed to prevent prerecorded audio from being used (and abused).

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a847167/star-wars-mark-hamill-original-force-awakens-ending-luke-skywalker-the-force-last-jedi/

So JJ wanted Luke on the island to learn some wizard Jedi moves. Rian disagreed.

Interesting.

There’s a beta of this sort of thing here, so if anyone thinks they can do a great Anakin impression, we’re already set: https://lyrebird.ai/