Starting with the second act in a story seems much harder than starting with the beginning or even the end, simply because you have no setup for your characters or locations. I think that with a prequel story it’s easiest to start at the end and reverse engineer the story. It’s difficult since you have to think backwards, but it’s similar to thinking forwards with a regular plot. For example, Anakin ends the story as a fallen Jedi who nevertheless still values order and justice, as well as loyalty to the Emperor. Thus a potential prequel trilogy could start with a rebellious Anakin who doesn’t care about the Republic. Then his character could change as Obi-wan teaches him the ways of the Force, and he becomes the model Jedi. He’s obedient to the Jedi Order but more than that to the Chancellor. But as he becomes the perfect knight the Jedi Order realizes that the Chancellor is corrupt and the Republic is fallen.

Democrats have a weak position in this situation. Trump’s base doesn’t care if the government is shut down since they don’t want much of what is affected. Republican legislators don’t seem to care about CHIP of DACA (even if their constituents do), so they’re able to take them hostage.

DrDre said:

Ocrop27 said:

I see many people saying that TLJ deconstructs the myth of Star Wars. I think this is a valid interpretation, but not entirely true. In my view this movie tests the myth, yes, it creates terrible (and incredible) obstacles for the heroes, making them question what was once unquestionable. “dead heroes”, as Leia told Poe, reminding us that in fact not everything serves a divine purpose as we usually believe for these films.

But after the dark journey that was the TLJ, we have a much more powerful myth, in my opinion. One that goes beyond the old norm, because it does not abandon what has already been, it just puts to the test and adds the new concepts. Luke in Crait was real, he inspired the Galaxy, saved the resistance and faced his biggest mistake, Ben. He was a great hero, but still only a man capable of making mistakes.

All the characters in this movie have their truths tested and evolve from that. Just as the film itself tests the truths of the saga (as TESB and TPM did before). I agree that this film has a postmodern side, consequent of the time in which we live, but I do not think that it left the myth, only magnified.

You can’t have your cake and eat it. TLJ deconstructs the legend of Luke Skywalker, and turns him into the deeply flawed man Luke Skywalker. Luke then creates a new in-universe legend or myth of himself within the story. This is not the same as creating a myth for the benefit of the viewer. TLJ is a film about myth and legend, not a myth onto itself. If the OT is the story of how on the North Pole, there’s a mythical person called Santa Clause, who makes toys and then delivers them to children all around the world on Christmas Day, then TLJ is a story about a disillusioned fat old drunk, who tells a young girl who’s come looking for the legend of Santa Clause, that Santa Clause doesn’t exist. After refusing to put on his red suit for the entire story, the fat guy redeems himself by donning the red suit one more time, and giving his greatest performance in the holiday parade, convincing children in the story one last time that Santa is real, before shuffling off the mortal coil.

Except that Luke was indeed a magical Jedi, and has only recently cut himself off from the Force. When he returns, it’s not at all like Santa being in a parade - he’s doing Force magic that is so difficult that the effort ultimately kills him.

Now I imagine Tim Allen finding Luke’s robot hand on the island with a card instructing him on being the new Last Jedi.

eiyosus said:

I feel sorry for the rest of you guys.

Down the road from my place:

Take it to the Kenobi: A Star Wars Story thread.

darthrush said:

After rejecting it for a while, I honestly think an 3 hour epic cut of both films could be cool. I will still just be sticking to doing a regular last jedi edit but am looking forward to the 2 in 1’s that will be done.

They have such different visual aesthetics, and I don’t know if that would take me out of the whole experience.

I thought that the tower would have to be near/at the top of the DS2, otherwise the battle would be happening above them from their perspective.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

It bothers me

WYSHS

Daxtreme said:

NeverarGreat said:

I vote to have a significant time jump and focus on the new leads for an entire movie.

You’re forgetting Luke coming back as special-creepy-Force ghost 😄

Dang.

I vote to have a significant time jump and focus on the new leads for an entire movie.

IT’S SNOWING. FULL BLIZZARD. DOG HAS THE ZOOMIES.

I also had no problem with the scene, for what it’s worth. The BB-8 walker, on the other hand…

If you want to test the idea, you could use the HDTV versions I’ve already uploaded:
Sunset:
https://mega.nz/#!GQlSmS4J!luBluderZeOJglzTX7Qf0mRCm9XL6NfpvjyctQO_4gg
Night:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNmTaYK!F7r_Ozv2KWMkxPJVSXdPquFV6G32ApoA0kL8QDD0GJI

I can render the Blu-ray version of the sunset, but a night version would take time. However, it’s such a short scene that I don’t think fading one into the other would be very realistic.

Hal 9000 said:

Here is the scene in question, from the BluRay, to be attempted to be converted to nighttime and/or sunset:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_YolIzidhfilrhB-lTn3giN1fXBJ9eg2

This footage had a different look than the HDTV version, so I had to redo the correction.
One issue that the Blu-ray has that the HDTV version doesn’t have (at least as much) is that there’s something wrong with the color channels. In particular, the red channel is not merely misaligned but just plain wrong:
https://i.imgur.com/A4Z12eV.jpg
This shot (and the similar one from the end) seem to be the worst offenders. Does anyone know if this could be fixed? I tried to resize the red layer, but as you can see it’s worse than just RGB misalignment.

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

dahmage said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Honestly both series have a lot of pretty awful filler episodes. Rebels more so than The Clone Wars to me though.

Space whales…

jokes on us all when NASA reports that space whales are real.

Eh

#NotMyStarWars

the space whales was a dumb episode.

I know, right? Animals can’t survive in sp

TV’s Frink said:

A link does not necessarily equal an edit, or the edit that’s been described.

Some people here claim to have watched it.

This is an old gem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=234&v=e3EVuoOo3kA

You could ask a mod to move it.

Another idea for the crawl, this time focusing on Finn:

The galaxy stands at the brink.
With the Republic destroyed,
General Leia Organa has fled
into uncharted space with the
last of their once-mighty fleet,
awaiting the return of the
legendary Luke Skywalker.

Feverish from his wounds,
former Stormtrooper Finn
tries in vain to warn Leia
of a hidden peril, claiming
that Snoke’s mighty warship
contains a device which can
track them past the furthest
star.

Disobeying the orders of
his superior, Commander
Poe Dameron has sent Finn
with a medic to Canto Bight,
where a mysterious gambler
may have knowledge of this
insidious device…

What parent hasn’t said ‘I’m going to raise my kids far better than my parents did me’, and then go on to fall back on the only thing they know. And I’d argue Luke wasn’t trained in a different way - he was trained by two very conventional Jedi. His atypical behavior in ROTJ was in spite of his mentors, not because of them.

Further thoughts on changing The Force Awakens to serve TLJ, I could place some of the footage of the Raddus going to hyperspace into the destruction of the Hosnian system.

It might be going too far to show Holdo staring out of the window at the approaching lasers, but even placing the TLJ ships in the distance going to hyperspace in this shot would help.

If we see Holdo in this sequence, then the only dialogue necessary for the previous scene would be ‘General, the Republic is scrambling the fleet to assist us’.

Nerdman3000 said:

Have you considered extending Rey’s force vision which she gets after picking up the Lightsaber? In the novelization, it was suppose to start with Rey seeing from a distance Luke and Vader’s Bespin duel, and you can see remnants of that with the collapsing hallway in the vision which is the Bespin Cloud City Hallway. It’d be kind of interesting if you could somehow work that back in.

I don’t think adding the duel would add anything to the story that we haven’t already seen.

Rey’s Force Vision makes even less sense with the context of The Last Jedi, but I wouldn’t know where to begin in changing that. It’s probably best to wait until Episode 9 before messing with that part.

I imagine that dying gives a person a great deal of perspective on things, so that when one would normally interfere with the events of the galaxy instead there’s a case of extreme passivity and letting things be. Yoda didn’t destroy anything except a rotting stump, and only because he knew that Luke needed to get beyond his hatred of Jedi dogma. He probably didn’t even change history, since Luke was about to burn it down anyway.

It was little more than a mischievous trick, totally in keeping with the slightly crazy second most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

suspiciouscoffee said:

THE FOLLOWING IMAGE CONTAINS A TLJ SPOILER

PROCEED AT OWN RISK

Spoiler discussion

It’s so clear now. This is Yoda as he looked when he was young, thus finally putting to rest the age/old debate about Christensen vs Shaw. Deal with it, OT sticklers 😉

Ambitious project! But shouldn’t this be in the writing subforum?

Mrebo said:

I have mixed feelings on the Canto Bight music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ue_5T4fMk&feature=youtu.be&t=35s

It’s like Mos Eisley cantina meets 1930s Tropicana.

If Danny Elfman can use it, so can John Williams!