NeverarGreat

towne32 said:

rodneyfaile said:

I want! I want!

How does it look compared to the most recent Harmy?

Now I just have to figure out how to get it!

It’s not easy to compare them directly. The color is pretty different at times. But it’s graded in a per-reel way instead of per-shot, so there is much less user-introduced bias for shots and scenes in 4K77.

The video quality is very high compared to the SSE. Lower than the blu-ray, but more consistent than Despecialized, and in a small number of shots, higher quality. There is a lot of grain, and you’ll see the natural excess of grain on effect/composited shots in 4K77.

There are still stray scratches, dirt, etc, here and there. But it’s minimal, and the cleanup is pretty great. Still, some people can’t stand seeing even a small amount of that.

I’d argue that there’s more detail overall in 4K77 than in the Blu-ray. The Blu-ray has been degrained, sharpened, and regrained so that the resulting image is very ‘flat’, meaning that fine details in already in-focus areas are distorted, whereas out-of-focus elements are sharpened. So whereas the impression upon seeing the Blu-ray is that it is sharper, you’re losing the natural depth of field from the original photography. 4K77 retains this.

The most noticeable issue with 4K77 is the inconsistent color grade, but that’s just how it looked on a Technicolor print.

Tyrphanax said:

Jay said:

Jeebus said:

TM2YC said:

Jay said:

mass killings… why didn’t we see them when guns were even more readily available?

When were guns less prevalent in the US than today?

Interestingly, the murder rate has been going down for quite a while now. It raised a bit in recent years, but its nowhere near the rate it was in the 80s.

EDIT: That’s just the general murder rate, gun murders are, indeed, going up.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-u-s-murder-rate-is-up-but-still-far-below-its-1980-peak/

Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but it looks like the percentage of murders committed with firearms went up, not the absolute number. But yeah, crime is relatively low, though you’d think it was the purge based on media coverage.

Jeebus said:

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

I think Jay’s argument is that those arguing for anything approaching a ban on guns don’t account for the fact that so many of the killings will still happen. And I think that’s right.

We can’t stop all the killings, so let’s not try to stop any of the killings.

Sounds great.

How many of the killings will stop if we ban the scary guns? That’s an honest question. I’d like to know how many of the people who would die this year would not die if the scary guns were banned, because those are the only ones that stand a chance of being banned outright.

In 2014, 248 people were killed with rifles. That accounts for 3% of all gun deaths, 4% of all gun deaths excluding non-classified firearms. If we took that 4% figure and applied it to the 1,959 gun deaths caused by non-classified firearms, that would be an additional 78 people killed. So, 326. Assuming that “scary guns” just refers to assault weapons and not all rifles, then the number would be less than 326. The question is “how much less?”

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls

Disclaimer: There’s a decent chance I don’t know what I’m talking about.

Thanks. This is the core of what I’m arguing. Even banning ALL rifles, including the non-scary ones, would have a minimal impact on overall gun deaths, and that’s assuming that at least some of those rifle users wouldn’t commit the same crime with a handgun. We’d have to be far more restrictive in our application of gun control to have a significant impact on gun deaths.

Yeah, I believe I’ve made a few in depth posts like this before with many facts and figures and statistics that show that gun crime is fractional (but over-reported) and that we see many hundreds more deaths from automobiles and cars every year, but generally they are glossed over and not talked about.

Give it a few years and these problems will solve themselves, with self driving cars + self shooting guns.

Jay said:

TM2YC said:

Jay said:

Ask Londoners if they feel safe with people getting stabbed every night

Broadly speaking the answer would be yes. London is one of the most populous cities in the world. One murder is statistically tiny and no danger to the majority but one is still far too many.

Except it’s 36 fatal stabbings so far this year in London.

But at least they didn’t use a spoon.

I’d much rather be a bystander in a knife fight than a gun fight. It’s pretty hard to kill hundreds of people from your balcony with a knife, and if someone does break into your house and you’re in the kitchen, you’re both equally well armed.

So glad to see this finally finished. I hadn’t been following it too closely, but the final product looks really impressive, sharp and undeniably Technicolor.

Can’t argue with that.

Smithers said:

Also MAJOR UPDATE: I’ll be recording Anakin’s dialogue with a child actor soon, the equipment’s all pretty good and my lines are all written. If anyone wants their own lines recorded; just ask and I’ll supply the goods.

Excellent!

Just thinking out loud here: If the line delivery ends up being substantially better than the original versions, it might be a very useful resource to have all of the original Anakin dialogue re-recorded. It would be quite the endeavor, but just having an isolated voice track for a major character would be useful for faneditors.

Only the Sith FBI could have removed those files.

It’s almost certain that they’ve removed them to protect the integrity of their investigation.

Yes, but I have a hard time imagining that the scratches on the TIE cockpit would disappear even when DVNR’ed.

The film damage doesn’t appear on the GOUT, so I doubt that it is on the Negative.

LordZerome1080 said:

Would you be offended if I used a cantaloupe after I get the blu rays?

NO CANTALOUPE!!

Seriously though, only new members to the site need to prove they’ve got the blu-ray. Though since you have admitted that you don’t yet…

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

Mrebo said:

I look forward to many of you being this old and cheerful, hopefully Jay keeps it going that long.

Living shortens my remaining life.

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Mrebo said:

I look forward to many of you being this old and cheerful, hopefully Jay keeps it going that long.

Reading the comments on that article shortened my life.

TV’s Frink said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yet there’s no black bar over R2, whom we all know is the most foul-mouthed bucket of sass to ever grace the screen.

There is in my edits!

Finally, some competence.

a_o said:

are there any screengrabs of lightsaber shots from v2?

Are you referring to my project of Dre’s? Because I’m still waiting on Harmy for sabers rotoscoped in from print sources before completing v2.

Yet there’s no black bar over R2, whom we all know is the most foul-mouthed bucket of sass to ever grace the screen.

I’ll go with the landspeeder through mos eisley shot as well, though if deleted scenes were in the running I’d suggest the Biggs and Luke Tatooine scene 😉

The music is a bit strange between “stun 'em” and the door opening. I feel like it would work better without any music at all, or just a continuation of the subtle theme from later in the elevator.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/06/henry-kissinger-ai-could-mean-the-end-of-human-history/559124/
When I saw the image, part of me wondered what Hal was doing writing on the Atlantic.

Taking into consideration Ash’s critique, I’ve toned down the mysterious nature of the disappearances. Now it’s framed as an epidemic of injustice and slavery exacerbated by the lack of a new Jedi Order. I’ve also reverted the first line to the original, since it’s actually quite good.

Luke Skywalker has vanished.
In his absence, the power
of the Jedi Knights has
faded into legend.

Slavery and injustice now
stalk the galaxy, fueling
a new Imperial regime.
With the ability to realize
its grandest designs, this
FIRST ORDER moves
to destroy the allies of
the Jedi wherever they
are found.

While the Republic strives
for a diplomatic solution,
a few bold senators fund a
covert RESISTANCE to
counter these attacks and
find their guardian of
peace and justice amid
the endless stars…

I also realized that there was an easier way to clarify the Republic’s role: Simply have it fight on a different battlefield. The fact that there are no diplomatic solutions don’t completely negate the value of its attempts.

LATE JEDIT: One of the reasons I’m having such trouble writing this crawl is that I don’t want to make it sound like the First Order was a recent occurrence. In the original crawl, it sounds like the First Order arose after Luke vanished, only a few years before the start of the movie. Here’s an attempt at uncoupling the First Order from Luke’s recent activities:

The Jedi Order has fallen.
Betrayed by his students,
the famed Luke Skywalker
has vanished into exile.

Vowing to destroy their
master once and for all,
these evil warriors have
allied with the sinister
FIRST ORDER, a regime
born from the fallen
Empire and concealing
a weapon of devastating
power.

Fearing to take action
that would lead to war,
a few brave senators in
the new Republic fund
a covert RESISTANCE
to find their guardian of
peace and justice amid
the endless stars…

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Why? They have a franchise with endless potential for new stories.

And yet their first inclination was to make a prequel that ends literally ten minutes before the start of A New Hope.

Just finished the first season. I very much liked it, despite some really dodgy science. I actually thought that Dr Smith’s harebrained scheme was one of the weaker parts of the show, but grew to really enjoy everything about Don West.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Interesting idea, but I think it sets the audience up to expect that to be a focus of the movie when it ends up being minor subtext at best.

I wouldn’t say it’s a minor subtext, since the theme is shared across all of the main characters and the search for a missing person is the main plot of the movie. But I agree that any mention should be subtle so as to shift the focus of the theme without setting up a specific thematic payoff that doesn’t arrive.

Although, Rey’s main weakness is her desire for a parental figure which can never be truly fulfilled. If the audience also expected a tearful reunion of Rey and Finn with their respective parents, it would be that much more dramatic when it is revealed that such a reunion was never to be.

GZK8000 said:

Handman said:

Since most of the latter two prequels are CG anyway, you could probably get a pretty decent 4K image if you redid it all. Of course the actors would still look not so great.

This legitimately creeps me out.