NeverarGreat

DuracellEnergizer said:

"I just want to watch the world burn."

I have been thinking that this is actually a big problem in politics today. People are so cynical that it’s taken for granted that government is broken and civic-mindedness is dead. Journalism is all but extinct, and truth is whatever is shouted the loudest by those in power. With this mindset, the best thing to do is look out for number one, since it’s a sucker’s game to adhere to any values or rules at all.

I think it would be really great if we started valuing things like truth, justice, and the American Way again, whatever those things mean to each individual. At least then when things go wrong we can at least say that we tried our best instead of settling for our worst.

Isn’t there a thread about why ROTJ is the best Star Wars movie? If that thread can exist, this one can too.

I think The Last Jedi is the most ambitious Star Wars movie yet. It makes cogent arguments for and against the existence of the Jedi, it truly widens the scope of the universe to include the perspective of the very rich and communicates their opportunism and human trafficking, it deftly upends the First Order and places Kylo on the throne in a way that is thematically satisfying, and it gives Rey, Poe and Finn arcs that genuinely move their stories forward.

It’s also the most visually striking of the numbered episodes with the most jaw-dropping Star Wars sequence ever put to screen.

darthrush said:

I present the ending to one of the alternate versions of the release…the “Skywalker Lives” edition!

https://vimeo.com/271409293

If it ended on the binary sunset shot, for me it would be perfect.

Heck, even if Luke dies, the placement of this scene is great.

It’s perfect.

g-force said:

I’ll have to pop in the Blu Ray later, but I’m not seeing it in the broadcast of the 2004 version.

It’s definitely there on the German broadcast and the Blu-ray, but it’s not very noticeable since the brightness is so low.

(BTW, I just updated the comparison gallery through this part of the film, using only shots that have additional sources added to them. I’ll finish the whole gallery someday… 😉 )

Dwalin said:

What’s the point of color correction if millions of fans don’t know how to download your releases?
So hard to upload on an outdoor torrent tracker and cloud storage?

The links are available to anyone who owns the Blu-ray and/or who is a part of this community - After working for years on this project, so I don’t feel like that is too much to ask for.

Maybe just when Obi-wan’s climbing above Anakin on the lava tower, and then Anakin looks up at him all pissed.

Possessed said:

Thought the 4k77 was a shot by shot

It was reel by reel, to preserve the original color variability between shots.

Neglify said:

OP’s signature made me trip

A photobucket GIF that still works…

Yet another reason why returning to Tatooine for ROTJ was such a dumb move.

There are at least three instances where Obi-wan is higher than Anakin during their final fight. Whenever this happens, Obi-wan should declare the fight over due to his high ground.

My left foot is 1/4 of a size larger than my right(which is usually a 9.5), so I was wishing today for a magical left shoe size of nine and three quarters.

The podrace comparison is just a copy of the previous comparison btw.

DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

No maybe that all the lead characters are still white (Rey, Kylo Ren, Luke, Jyn Urso). The racially diverse characters are pushed to side characters. And I should include the directors who have all been white men.

I agree to an extent, although “side characters” is unfair to Finn, Poe, and even Cassian. Yes the leads are all white but Star Wars movies always have more than one main character.

I agree on Cassian but The Last Jedi took Finn from a main character to more of a side character in my opinion. I bet he will get more spotlight in Ep. 9 though.

That’s debatable. It’s clear that he was originally designed to be a character we focused a lot on (originally opening the film with him + a lot of other deleted material). His diminished presence is simply due to trims in the editing room, so it’s weird to say that “the black character was sidelined.” He still had his own full storyline (one that didn’t include any white characters), whether people liked it or not.

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

No maybe that all the lead characters are still white (Rey, Kylo Ren, Luke, Jyn Urso). The racially diverse characters are pushed to side characters. And I should include the directors who have all been white men.

I agree to an extent, although “side characters” is unfair to Finn, Poe, and even Cassian. Yes the leads are all white but Star Wars movies always have more than one main character.

darthrush said:

Sure, it’s an improvement but I just find it frustrating that they haven’t had the balls yet to have a person of color as the lead character.

I’d say though that they were essentially positioning John Boyega as the lead of TFA during the marketing of that film (or at least as much the lead as Daisy Ridley).

Yep, but I quite clearly remember how I felt a little misled by the marketing after I saw the movie since Finn was not the lead. And it got worse in the Last Jedi. Finn I feel has kind of gotten not treated with enough respect as a character. He was soooo interesting and in all honesty, one of my favorite things about TFA.

He still is the main character in TFA though. Just because Rey has a slightly bigger role doesn’t change that.

Even though Finn is my favorite character in TFA, I still thought that Rey was the main character, or at least a co-lead. Now I am imagining a fanedit where Finn is unquestionably the lead and it’s actually pretty great.

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Until they actually meet, NK has done nothing different than they’ve done a bunch of times before. The only difference so far is that the President said yes.

You mean aside from dismantling a nuclear test site, which satellite imagery shows they’re doing?

Yeah, this was a site that had already collapsed and killed over two hundred NK citizens.
Kim is just trying to make a concession that had already been conceded.

darthrush said:

That’s gotta be from 2.7 right? I remember his technicolor grade to be a bit warmer.

Compared to the Blu-ray, my version is significantly brighter and warmer, an interpretation of the Tech film as it was captured in the neutral light of the scan. Dre’s version is closer to a 70’s projection.

So the NK summit has been cancelled after the Supreme Leader got the good PR that he wanted.
Kim is probably pleased as well.

That’s almost certainly due to the temporal noise reduction in the original Blu-ray. The algorithm that was used often couldn’t handle an object moving against a static background, leading to the background getting ‘smeared’ around the moving object.

This issue is fairly ubiquitous throughout the film (examples that comes to mind are C-3PO trudging behind a dune and R2 moving down the canyon right before he’s shot), but it’s more noticeable here since I’ve brightened the image so much. There is actually one shot in which I fixed this issue, by rotoscoping in detail around R2 from the SSE:
https://diff.pics/5H4o2DcPEHdM/14

canofhumdingers said:

Isn’t there an accent mark over the “e” in official publications? Which would make it “OH-lee-AY”?

That’s how I’ve been pronouncing it.

Telion said:

Fair, I hadn’t thought about the timing. But actually I have an idea. What about only having one spy, say something like “They’re here” or “It’s here” but its ambiguous who is being notified. Still have tension but we can assume that the resistance is the one being told, and that the first or found out. Or vice verse and Maz told Poe because apparently they’re best buds (stupid TLJ).

That’s could work well. Han even says when they get to the castle that the First Order ‘isn’t far behind’, so presumably Kylo wouldn’t even need an informant at the castle to know. That would mean that there need only be a Resistance informant in the castle, and I’d choose the lady since she is more integrated into the scene and her somewhat sinister look would sell the ambiguity of her intentions.

I also really like that Maz’s castle hasn’t been infiltrated by the First Order because that makes Han a little less stupid for bringing BB-8 along even when he knows the droid is wanted.

dahmage said:

NeverarGreat said:

Danfun128 said:

So…is this more detailed or less detailed compared to other major preservations like the Neverar Technicolor version of the 2004/2011 SE? Is every frame that’s in the GOUT accounted for here?

My thoughts on this are here, but the short of it is that it’s differently detailed. The major difference other than the SE changes are that the colors are less consistent in 4K77.

Psuedo link

D’oh.

Fixed.

Danfun128 said:

So…is this more detailed or less detailed compared to other major preservations like the Neverar Technicolor version of the 2004/2011 SE? Is every frame that’s in the GOUT accounted for here?

My thoughts on this are here, but the short of it is that it’s differently detailed. The major difference other than the SE changes are that the colors are less consistent in 4K77.

The act of writing fiction can be viewed as a way of consciously expressing the subconscious biases of the writer. Almost invariably I look back on things I wrote years ago and cringe because of these biases expressing themselves.

Why did I include no female adventurers or characters of color in my fantasy epic? Not because of any real historical precedent, but simply because they were also absent from Lord of the Rings and the other old stories I would read. Why do my characters roughly conform to elf/dwarf/hobbit/human standards? See above.

This is why I feel like it’s important to have discussions about inclusiveness and diversity in all aspects of the writing process - artists only have a single viewpoint and it’s not uncommon to only realize too late that your subconscious crafted a message that you as an artist did not intend.

Of course it’s a different story if that diversity is mandatory and bureaucratic, but I can’t speak to that aspect of the creative process.