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- #1306828
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- Just one ESB shot fixed, but I'm pleased with it and thought you'd like to see it
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1306828/action/topic#1306828
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Very nice work!
Very nice work!
DT = Disney Trilogy
A term for cropping a widescreen movie to conform to the 4:3 aspect ratio of most televisions at the time. Those responsible would often pan the image from left to right or right to left in scenes where talking actors occupied the far sides of the frame.
The TV Spots have begun. This is a non-cropped version of the Twitter ad.
While I want to agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment, it is also true that most Star Wars media builds on and references what came before, so if for example you dislike the return of Maul from Clone Wars but like Solo, the presence of Maul in Solo rather taints the experience.
If you want more and new Star Wars you’re going to have to make your peace with new characters, new story lines, new actors, new stories.
No “if” about it; I don’t. In fact, I wish it were possible to retroactively make less Star Wars crap.
Not really related to the thread, but as much as like all the movies, I think it would be cool to do a “Revenge of the Jedi” edit that acts as the final Star Wars movie ever, in some alternate universe. Han dies, Leia isn’t Luke’s sister, etc.
I’d really like to see that.
I should have probably made it clear that it wasn’t really a serious suggestion, more of an interesting experiment.
But… then you’re skipping the best one.
Exactly. Star Wars is too good for the Saga as it currently stands.
I think it would probably be fine for someone with no SW experience who wants to get in on the fun of TROS to skip right to the ST if they’re pressed for time; TFA is pretty much designed to be a secondary entry point.
I’m going to go several steps further and say that because of the existing Disney era material, the original film has become practically irrelevant to the Saga.
Here’s my bold viewing order:
TPM - AOTC - ROTS - Solo - RO - ESB - TFA - TLJ - TROS
Funny enough, the numbering of the episodes still basically works here.
The prequel trilogy is essential in establishing the ineffectiveness of the Jedi Order and the fall of Anakin/rise of Vader. It introduces Luke and Leia and hints at their future lives. It even gives Luke the binary sunset referenced in TLJ. The bridge from ROTS to ESB can be easily crossed with Solo and RO, since Solo introduces the only three characters left unintroduced in ROTS, Han, Chewie, and Lando. RO bridges the Rebellion gap with Bail Organa and implies that the Death Star will be destroyed through the sacrifice of Jyn and friends.
Skipping ANH for ESB loses very little in terms of continuity, since everyone has already been introduced in some form. Seeing Obi-wan as a ghost shows that he has died and giving Luke so many failures shows that he hasn’t matured into a true Jedi even though he has that potential, and can be trained further by Yoda. It also brings back Lando, giving some much appreciated continuity to his arc and prepares for his reappearance in TROS.
Skipping from ESB to TFA leaves a lot for the imagination to chew on since the crawl establishes that the First Order arose from the ashes of the Empire. This allows the previous heroes their victory without showing all the details. It could be implied that the Empire didn’t lose as decisively as was shown in ROTJ, and there is good reason for this new strength. Han is never shown to be a general in the Rebellion, so his character doesn’t really regress. Leia isn’t so heavily implied to be Luke’s equal in the Force, allowing her to slip more easily back into her prior role of Rebellion leader.
A big bonus to this order is that there is only ever one Death Star-esque plot (unless TROS recycles it yet again), so the Sequel trilogy gets a major boost right out of the gate. Finally, this saves the best for last if anyone wants to go back and watch ROTJ and ANH, allowing someone to appreciate each film for what it brings to the table as they (mostly) climb in quality throughout the marathon.
I’d like to imagine that double post was on purpose - ironic considering the video.
I laughed.
I hope that when the inevitable saga box set comes out next year it includes some more TFA deleted scenes.
Like, what is this scene in this video at :28? Stormtroopers at dusk in the desert (but in the actual desert, not the set used for the opening scene). I’ve never seen this before…
https://youtu.be/P7xZV_26VYU?t=28
I saw a longer version of that shot used in another doc around the same time, can’t recall what it was now. Funny enough, I’ve recently considered the possibility of creating a very brief scene out of it (with their POV shots of the desert sandwiching it) as they track Finn from the TIE wreckage. The scene would have to be brightened and heavily cleaned of course, so I would guess that the original place for this footage was in the search for BB-8 the previous evening.
I like the planet of origin angle to the crystals. That makes much more sense than the ‘bleeding’ while still making the color notable.
There’s some wandering of the bandage but it’s not too noticeable. Good work!
Your_friendly_Imperial said:
-Hyperspace was a separate dimension which did not directly interact with Real Space“Traveling through hyperspace ain’t like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that’d end your trip real quick, wouldn’t it?”
That has wide lattitude for interpretation. All he’s saying here is that there is some interaction between Hyperspace and stellar objects. In fact, if you took his statement literally the only way a Falcon-sized ship could fly directly through a star would be if the Falcon was only indirectly interacting with that object, otherwise the Falcon would be incinerated in the corona.
https://youtu.be/l_6Tumd8EQI?t=239
George telling it like it is.
TFA in many ways was brilliant, but people tend to forget that brilliance because it has become part of the broader saga story and in that way its flaws become much more apparent. As a standalone experience it works gangbusters, but once people really stepped back and saw it as a continuation of a six-part series it feels a lot like a soft reboot. Similarly the ending works really well as a hook for the next installment but once that came out and failed to live up to many people’s expectations it too cast a pall over TFA.
Looking forward to TROS, a lot hangs in the balance in terms of how TFA will be viewed.
Man it is crazy how much the dialogue has changed between 2012 and now.
Right? I remember the hype for the new movies was pretty overwhelming back then, and it felt subversive to say stuff in praise of Lucas:
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/656632
There’s a little vindication going on, yeah.
All I can think of:
Han Solo: No time to discuss this as a committee!
Princess Leia: I am not a committee!
“And that’s how I came up with the idea to make the main theme of Episode 1 committee deliberation.”
The small amount of screentime and size in shot would probably be a benefit though, since there is a potentially large library of Peter Cushing’s acting with which to train the AI for a brief shot with little to no emoting. enlarging the ROTS shot to place the deepfake and then shrinking it back down to normal would probably give more definition to the illusion.
Finally, some 4K screencaps of THE PHANTOM MENACE, without the HDR grade. Looks super DNR’d, just like the Blu-ray.
Ya got any picture contrast to go with it?
The Star Forge is they key to all this, if we can get it working.
It feels like you could trim three or four of those shots and solve the continuity problems by removing Han’s feetfirst fall, then having his headfirst flop be stopped by Chewie without cutting to him grabbing Han’s boots at all.
But that doesn’t necessarily imply a mystical component of the saber itself, merely that constructing one takes a lot of fine focus.