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My best guess as to what was intended is this:

Finn ejected from the TIE before impact and landed some distance away from the craft. Poe wasn’t able to eject, hence why he said he was ‘thrown from the crash’. The window of the TIE was smashed, so I’m guessing he was thrown through the window some distance and was buried in the spongy sand. The squad did a cursory search and failed to find him, and instead focused on Finn. Then later that night after Finn and Rey escaped Jakku, Poe awoke and got transport off planet.

Well what are they going to do now, fire him? 😉

Those shots make sense, and would be simpler than creating something from scratch.

As for Poe, I wouldn’t want the scene to heavily imply that he survived since the audience may then fixate on his return to the exclusion of the other characters. The goal with the current dialogue was to establish that the Troopers had written off Poe’s fate too quickly in favor of following Finn, but maybe there’s a better way to hint at Poe’s survival without making it too obvious.

An idea I’ve been kicking around for a while:

https://vimeo.com/375840701
Password: fanedit

It would require some work to clean up and extend the troopers walking and give some life to the desert insert shots, but it might be enough for such a brief scene. The dialogue is an intentional reference to ANH that hopefully foreshadows by the singleminded error of the troopers that Poe’s fate remains unresolved.

It’s funny to think about the point of each of the prequels individually and if they actually add to the Skywalker saga.

TPM right out of the gate falls into irrelevance by depicting Anakin before he is old enough to have developed any moral nuance. We learn nothing about him except that he’s a really swell little kid who flies good and wants to do other things good too, knowing nothing of greed. Oh, and he also has a superficial crush on the queen. Virtually every experience gained in this movie is ignored by its sequels.

AOTC decides to go into developing this superficial crush angle and turn it into True Love, which fails epically. But not to worry, we still have Anakin as a good man nobly upholding the Jedi ideals and resisting the call of the Dark Side. Except that he murders a tribe of sentient creatures (people), thus torpedoing any attempt at the ‘good man’ angle. But maybe if we discard these two movies, the last one will prove that he was still maturing and that he will become a good man, and maybe give some compelling reason for his fall.

So anyway Anakin straight up beheads an unarmed prisoner in the first twenty minutes of ROTS. This somehow isn’t in the scene where he falls to the Dark Side. No, in the scene where he falls to the Dark Side it is because of True Love, Unlimited Power, or Jedi Are Evil maybe. True Love rings false because he strangles his True Love anyway, and The Jedi Are Evil angle feels like petty childishness coming on the heels of his denial of Mastership. So we’re left with Unlimited Power, essentially simple greed. This is the least compelling answer of all, but has thematic roots in TPM so I guess that’s the answer.

There is one interesting aspect of all three of these explanations for his turn to evil - they are all thematically established in the first installment in the most superficial way possible due to Anakin’s immaturity, and then all three are grossly mishandled in the second installment to such an extent that it is manifestly clear that they are all subservient to, and governed by, Anakin’s persisting immaturity. This overarching theme, Anakin’s immaturity, is the only reason for his fall to the Dark Side that rings true.

And this destroys the message of the OT.

Lando: “That thing’s operational?!”
Nein Numb: “That thing’s operational.”
Ackbar: “That thing’s operational.”
Luke: “That thing’s operational.”

Leia: “That thing’s operational. I can feel it.”

I remember the destroyer sound effect being brought up in discussion when SirRidley was working on the sound/music for this scene and there were a few attempts at making this change. Unfortunately none of them felt entirely seamless and so the idea was dropped from the final edit.

As for the reshuffled Snoke scene, your thought process is quite close to mine. In my hopefully-soon-to-be-finished edit (which uses Hal’s as a base) this change is implemented.

I’m still holding out for a few dialogue replacements, but if those aren’t done soon I’ll go ahead and render a workprint version without them before TROS.

Very nice work!

DT = Disney Trilogy

A term for cropping a widescreen movie to conform to the 4:3 aspect ratio of most televisions at the time. Those responsible would often pan the image from left to right or right to left in scenes where talking actors occupied the far sides of the frame.

The TV Spots have begun. This is a non-cropped version of the Twitter ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsp8iOt76YU

While I want to agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment, it is also true that most Star Wars media builds on and references what came before, so if for example you dislike the return of Maul from Clone Wars but like Solo, the presence of Maul in Solo rather taints the experience.

RogueLeader said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

regularjoe said:

If you want more and new Star Wars you’re going to have to make your peace with new characters, new story lines, new actors, new stories.

No “if” about it; I don’t. In fact, I wish it were possible to retroactively make less Star Wars crap.

Not really related to the thread, but as much as like all the movies, I think it would be cool to do a “Revenge of the Jedi” edit that acts as the final Star Wars movie ever, in some alternate universe. Han dies, Leia isn’t Luke’s sister, etc.

I’d really like to see that.

PLATES, ETC.

Mace Was The Only Jedi

Army of Force-Sensitive Gremlins

I should have probably made it clear that it wasn’t really a serious suggestion, more of an interesting experiment.

joefavs said:

But… then you’re skipping the best one.

Exactly. Star Wars is too good for the Saga as it currently stands.

joefavs said:

I think it would probably be fine for someone with no SW experience who wants to get in on the fun of TROS to skip right to the ST if they’re pressed for time; TFA is pretty much designed to be a secondary entry point.

I’m going to go several steps further and say that because of the existing Disney era material, the original film has become practically irrelevant to the Saga.

Here’s my bold viewing order:

TPM - AOTC - ROTS - Solo - RO - ESB - TFA - TLJ - TROS

Funny enough, the numbering of the episodes still basically works here.

The prequel trilogy is essential in establishing the ineffectiveness of the Jedi Order and the fall of Anakin/rise of Vader. It introduces Luke and Leia and hints at their future lives. It even gives Luke the binary sunset referenced in TLJ. The bridge from ROTS to ESB can be easily crossed with Solo and RO, since Solo introduces the only three characters left unintroduced in ROTS, Han, Chewie, and Lando. RO bridges the Rebellion gap with Bail Organa and implies that the Death Star will be destroyed through the sacrifice of Jyn and friends.

Skipping ANH for ESB loses very little in terms of continuity, since everyone has already been introduced in some form. Seeing Obi-wan as a ghost shows that he has died and giving Luke so many failures shows that he hasn’t matured into a true Jedi even though he has that potential, and can be trained further by Yoda. It also brings back Lando, giving some much appreciated continuity to his arc and prepares for his reappearance in TROS.

Skipping from ESB to TFA leaves a lot for the imagination to chew on since the crawl establishes that the First Order arose from the ashes of the Empire. This allows the previous heroes their victory without showing all the details. It could be implied that the Empire didn’t lose as decisively as was shown in ROTJ, and there is good reason for this new strength. Han is never shown to be a general in the Rebellion, so his character doesn’t really regress. Leia isn’t so heavily implied to be Luke’s equal in the Force, allowing her to slip more easily back into her prior role of Rebellion leader.

A big bonus to this order is that there is only ever one Death Star-esque plot (unless TROS recycles it yet again), so the Sequel trilogy gets a major boost right out of the gate. Finally, this saves the best for last if anyone wants to go back and watch ROTJ and ANH, allowing someone to appreciate each film for what it brings to the table as they (mostly) climb in quality throughout the marathon.

I’d like to imagine that double post was on purpose - ironic considering the video.

I laughed.

DominicCobb said:

I hope that when the inevitable saga box set comes out next year it includes some more TFA deleted scenes.

Like, what is this scene in this video at :28? Stormtroopers at dusk in the desert (but in the actual desert, not the set used for the opening scene). I’ve never seen this before…
https://youtu.be/P7xZV_26VYU?t=28

I saw a longer version of that shot used in another doc around the same time, can’t recall what it was now. Funny enough, I’ve recently considered the possibility of creating a very brief scene out of it (with their POV shots of the desert sandwiching it) as they track Finn from the TIE wreckage. The scene would have to be brightened and heavily cleaned of course, so I would guess that the original place for this footage was in the search for BB-8 the previous evening.

I like the planet of origin angle to the crystals. That makes much more sense than the ‘bleeding’ while still making the color notable.

There’s some wandering of the bandage but it’s not too noticeable. Good work!

FunkyDays said:

Your_friendly_Imperial said:
-Hyperspace was a separate dimension which did not directly interact with Real Space

“Traveling through hyperspace ain’t like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that’d end your trip real quick, wouldn’t it?”

That has wide lattitude for interpretation. All he’s saying here is that there is some interaction between Hyperspace and stellar objects. In fact, if you took his statement literally the only way a Falcon-sized ship could fly directly through a star would be if the Falcon was only indirectly interacting with that object, otherwise the Falcon would be incinerated in the corona.

https://youtu.be/l_6Tumd8EQI?t=239

George telling it like it is.