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- #1309058
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- ANH Jabba Scene Pre-Special Edition Recreation (a WIP)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1309058/action/topic#1309058
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This is wonderful!
This is wonderful!
Added trailer for television:
War of the WorldsI’m not feeling that tripod design. Otherwise, shut up and take my money!
The Speilberg Tripod design was close to perfect.
It had legs which evoked the shape and power of tornadoes walking in a ballet of haunting sinuous motion, and the alien, hooded head of a venomous snake. The only way it could have been improved is if the legs were longer and joined at a smaller, less mechanical head.
It seems that waiting to make some of these changes has been fortuitous in hindsight. For the Kanjiklub subtitles, they are burned into the Blu-ray but are apparently not on the D+ stream. Has anyone managed to capture that scene without subs?
In a somewhat organized list of things incomplete or entirely missing, not including timecode removal or changes requiring newly recorded dialogue:
ACT I
-Incomplete: Restructure of opening scene where Poe shoots first, then Tekka is killed. Not sure if this plays better than theatrical, so it may not be used anyway.
-Incomplete: The scene of BB-8 at Rey’s house. I may just have the BB-8 portion as a brief interlude between the interrogation and Poe’s rescue, skipping Rey’s dream.
-Not Started: The activation of the Falcon tracking device when Rey starts the Falcon for the first time in years.
ACT II
-Incomplete: Finalize new subs for Kanjiklub establishing the First Order more explicitly as a power in the galaxy.
-Not Started: Subtitle Maz Castle aliens and extend their scene.
-Not Started: Lightsaber handed to Leia in Rey’s vision. Probably won’t include due to potential use in TROS.
-Not Started: Rey sees Pirate’s ship when she runs from the castle. Another change I may not implement due to effort/payoff calculation.
-Not Started: Finn runs to Kylo’s shuttle earlier. Done 12-4-19!
-Incomplete: RogueLeader’s suggestion of a brief dream sequence before Rey’s interrogation.
-Incomplete: Clean up stray echoes in the multichannel audio for the second Snoke scene. Done 12-3-19!
ACT III
-Incomplete: Custom matte of TIE fighters starting up as Rey climbs down the wall in the hangar.
-Incomplete: Foley and flashes of light when Kylo looks towards the Oscillator from the Falcon.
-Incomplete: Foley and audio cleanup to Rey’s vision of Luke/R2 revealing the map.
-Incomplete: Improve final shot of Falcon jumping to hyperspace before the credits.
It feels like a lot, I know. But compared to the changelist on the first page, I’ve actually done most of it. The really tricky stuff would be the 4-5 areas of the film where I would like to include more dialogue, and that will probably not be ready for this workprint version. I will probably also not complete all of the above changes in time, so the workprint will omit any not yet done in time.
Apropos of nothing, but I don’t think I’m prepared to imagine the state of the urinals in a Stormtrooper barracks.
I’ve actually never seen it or even heard all of the songs in order…
ducks tomatoes
…but my girlfriend was a theatre major and I’ve probably assimilated the entire thing through osmosis regardless. I won’t tell her you got tickets, she would be jealous.
So yes, I’m into it 😃
Hahaha, my sister is going to love this.
I take it she’s big into Reylo and/or Hamilton?
I will never not hate Yarael Poof.
Robot Chicken has made him into my favorite Jedi.
The Saga: Star Wars with Tommy Wiseau - The full story
I want more, and I know I shouldn’t.
Something something British Empire tea crumpets Kylo Ren.
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1308281
Just an idea I had.
JEDIT: Should put this in the general videos thread. Ima do that.
It must be Luke’s hair, right?
I think the sweep of the planet/moon/circle thing works to complete Luke’s head.
I really like that one. It’s painterly and subtle while still being bold in its overall effect.
Just have Greedo’s lifeless, twitching corpse shoot second.
Hahahahahahahahaha
2002 was a strange time. But hey, I guess he was just a really early Rose Byrne fan.
Wow, it looks like I am disconnected from most of pop culture these days; I had no idea this actress went on to do anything whatsoever!
She’s good in Sunshine (2007), which happens to be my favorite film. It’s funny, I realized just a year or two ago that she was even in Star Wars.
My best guess as to what was intended is this:
Finn ejected from the TIE before impact and landed some distance away from the craft. Poe wasn’t able to eject, hence why he said he was ‘thrown from the crash’. The window of the TIE was smashed, so I’m guessing he was thrown through the window some distance and was buried in the spongy sand. The squad did a cursory search and failed to find him, and instead focused on Finn. Then later that night after Finn and Rey escaped Jakku, Poe awoke and got transport off planet.
Well what are they going to do now, fire him? 😉
Those shots make sense, and would be simpler than creating something from scratch.
As for Poe, I wouldn’t want the scene to heavily imply that he survived since the audience may then fixate on his return to the exclusion of the other characters. The goal with the current dialogue was to establish that the Troopers had written off Poe’s fate too quickly in favor of following Finn, but maybe there’s a better way to hint at Poe’s survival without making it too obvious.
An idea I’ve been kicking around for a while:
https://vimeo.com/375840701
Password: fanedit
It would require some work to clean up and extend the troopers walking and give some life to the desert insert shots, but it might be enough for such a brief scene. The dialogue is an intentional reference to ANH that hopefully foreshadows by the singleminded error of the troopers that Poe’s fate remains unresolved.
It’s funny to think about the point of each of the prequels individually and if they actually add to the Skywalker saga.
TPM right out of the gate falls into irrelevance by depicting Anakin before he is old enough to have developed any moral nuance. We learn nothing about him except that he’s a really swell little kid who flies good and wants to do other things good too, knowing nothing of greed. Oh, and he also has a superficial crush on the queen. Virtually every experience gained in this movie is ignored by its sequels.
AOTC decides to go into developing this superficial crush angle and turn it into True Love, which fails epically. But not to worry, we still have Anakin as a good man nobly upholding the Jedi ideals and resisting the call of the Dark Side. Except that he murders a tribe of sentient creatures (people), thus torpedoing any attempt at the ‘good man’ angle. But maybe if we discard these two movies, the last one will prove that he was still maturing and that he will become a good man, and maybe give some compelling reason for his fall.
So anyway Anakin straight up beheads an unarmed prisoner in the first twenty minutes of ROTS. This somehow isn’t in the scene where he falls to the Dark Side. No, in the scene where he falls to the Dark Side it is because of True Love, Unlimited Power, or Jedi Are Evil maybe. True Love rings false because he strangles his True Love anyway, and The Jedi Are Evil angle feels like petty childishness coming on the heels of his denial of Mastership. So we’re left with Unlimited Power, essentially simple greed. This is the least compelling answer of all, but has thematic roots in TPM so I guess that’s the answer.
There is one interesting aspect of all three of these explanations for his turn to evil - they are all thematically established in the first installment in the most superficial way possible due to Anakin’s immaturity, and then all three are grossly mishandled in the second installment to such an extent that it is manifestly clear that they are all subservient to, and governed by, Anakin’s persisting immaturity. This overarching theme, Anakin’s immaturity, is the only reason for his fall to the Dark Side that rings true.
And this destroys the message of the OT.
Lando: “That thing’s operational?!”
Nein Numb: “That thing’s operational.”
Ackbar: “That thing’s operational.”
Luke: “That thing’s operational.”
Leia: “That thing’s operational. I can feel it.”
I remember the destroyer sound effect being brought up in discussion when SirRidley was working on the sound/music for this scene and there were a few attempts at making this change. Unfortunately none of them felt entirely seamless and so the idea was dropped from the final edit.
As for the reshuffled Snoke scene, your thought process is quite close to mine. In my hopefully-soon-to-be-finished edit (which uses Hal’s as a base) this change is implemented.
I’m still holding out for a few dialogue replacements, but if those aren’t done soon I’ll go ahead and render a workprint version without them before TROS.