NeverarGreat

Wouldn’t it have been interesting if Qui-Gon was revealed to be Anakin’s father in Episode 1 at the end of the movie like this?

It might even be possible with the footage available. Just cut the conversation about Anakin’s parentage with Shmi, Qui-Gon’s bewilderment about the boy, the midichlorian test. Make it so that going to Tatooine is purely Qui-Gon’s idea, and edit the dinner scene to include a meaningful glance or two between Qui-Gon and Shmi.

This would also work going forward. Anakin’s love for Padme is a mirror of his father’s secret relationship with Shmi, as well as his dream of freeing the slaves. That he can suddenly become a Force ghost at the end of ROTJ is similarly explained since his father also discovered the ability on his own and presumably after his death.

Another mockup, this one more complete and aiming to remove the game board distraction from the Falcon:

https://vimeo.com/296208376
Password: fanedit

The biggest issue for me is that Rey sort of comes out of nowhere, so I made another version which attempts to retain some of the comedy they were going for in the scene (and give Rey some sass):

https://vimeo.com/296208409
Password: fanedit

So is the sass worth it?

Collipso made the mistake of thinking that this forum is a democracy. It isn’t, nor should it be.

One thing I worry about is that the toxicity once held in the politics thread could drift into other areas of the forum once somewhat immune. How often have we said ‘Take it to the politics thread’ to preserve the civility of another one? Now the only recourse is to ban members who wish to express political views, or lock any thread which becomes mired in such toxicity. For this reason, I think there’s a place for such a thread.

But bigger picture, what do we want in this forum?

I think everyone who frequents this site comes here because they find something here to enjoy, whether it’s the projects, the other members, Star Wars in general, or even some peculiar interest only served by the Off-Topic section. For me, I try to read every topic in the General and Fan Preservation/Fan Edits sections, and much of the Off-Topic section(s). I love to see people’s creativity and hear their love for movies. I think there is still a lot of this site which feels like it’s from an earlier internet time, when the camaraderie of shared interests overwhelmed any cynicism or division. Or maybe I joined in a time of relative calm, where the Star Wars universe was just six movies forvermore and we all knew how we felt about them, and this is all a case of rose-colored glasses.

The temptation is strong to descend into mean-spirited arguments with other members, to make decisions one later regrets. I’m no stranger to that vice. So I guess my point is that we could all stand to remember what brought us here in the first place, and what we want this site to be.

RogueLeader said:

I like the change! Not a major change but I think it would be effective. Would it be a big challenge to rescore it appropriately?

Probably no more difficult than rescoring the destruction of Starkiller Base. The only dialogue that would have to be moved is Finn shouting ‘No!’.

I just ate some American cheese, which by the way is either the favorite or least favorite of the cheeses I will eat, depending on whether it’s high quality or heavily processed.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Now armed with ZigZig’s PaNup SDTV source, I’ve updated the timeline to include it at a higher quality. The Palpatine’s office bit now fades in on both ends (Qui-Gon and Anakin/Jar Jar) and hopefully isn’t as noticable as a hard cut.

https://vimeo.com/294771071

I’ve also started on the subtitles, but am taking some creative liberties with them as to make them more eye-pleasing to me as it appears the subtitles are rather squashed, even when scaled back to how it originally should look. It’s now just the 69pt and -30 tracking, which looks better IMO.

Compared to what it would look like if it was closer to the Z Bootleg

Perhaps the ‘squashed’ look would be better for a large screen, so that audiences could more easily read the entire text.

Here’s an attempt at replicating the bootleg subtitles in Photoshop, using Franklin Gothic Demi Condensed, the settings are 63 pt with 109% letter height and a value of zero for tracking. Drop shadow is 150 degrees.
With a bit of blurring (1.8%) to approximate the bootleg, this is what it looks like:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/W7YGNNNX

I had some gator, crawfish, and frog legs at the fair, which is also how I’d rate them.

The idea to edit Maz’s Castle battle isn’t going to work in the way I envisioned, due to the placement of the music. In short, the sequence
Han and Finn captured
Kylo finding Rey
Resistance arrival
Kylo abducts Rey
suffers from emotional whiplash, which was the opposite of what I was trying to achieve.

However, there is one change that I think could work quite well, and that is changing the abduction so that Finn starts running to Rey before it’s obviously too late:

https://vimeo.com/295908704
Password: fanedit

It’s music only for now, with the version 6 LUT.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

NeverarGreat said:

snooker said:

Doesn’t R2 have wheels? Or am I going crazy?

I expect that the droids have wheels because the designers literally couldn’t think of another way for them to move around. But I think it’s telling that the wheels are either barely noticeable or covered by panels.

They could have hovered, like every other vehicle in Star Wars ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I meant as a practical solution that wouldn’t require excessive special effects for the budget and era.

snooker said:

Doesn’t R2 have wheels? Or am I going crazy?

I expect that the droids have wheels because the designers literally couldn’t think of another way for them to move around. But I think it’s telling that the wheels are either barely noticeable or covered by panels.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Alright, here’re all my ideas for Return of the Jedi: The David Lynch Cut:

• John Williams’ score is replaced with a discordant Lynchian score.
• Bib Fortuna is replaced with The Mystery Man from Lost Highway.
• Jabba is given large, disgusting pustules, which The Mystery Man constantly lances and drains.
• The Black Lodge inhabitants from Twin Peaks & Fire Walk with Me are among Jabba’s courtiers.
• Oola is given a heart plug, which Jabba pulls out before tossing her to the rancor.
• Leia is forced to perform a striptease for Jabba and his men.
• The Sarlacc is made even more vaginal in appearance.
• Leia strangles Jabba so hard, his entire pustule-ridden body bursts in gory fashion.
• The Death Star II is now a shell encasing a miniature black hole. This black hole is the gateway to Palpatine’s extradimensional throne room. Palpatine’s throne room is now identical to Snoke’s (red walls and all that).
• Palpatine is given white, cataracted eyes, and he speaks “backwards”.
• Force Ghost Obi-Wan is now a living tree with a fleshy mass for a head.
• Madine is now a member of this alien race, and constantly drinks/eats/smokes/etc. through the top of his head.
• Luke & Leia have visibly uncomfortable twincestual sex right before heading off to Endor.
• Michael J. Anderson’s face is superimposed on all the Ewoks.
• The Ewoks eat all of Han’s extremities before Luke performs the floating Threepio trick.
• Leia is forced to carry a limb-less Han on her back throughout the rest of the picture.
• Luke & Vader enter Palpatine’s throne room through a psychedelic 2001-style stargate sequence.
• Instead of firing a green superlaser which blows ships up, the Death Star II fires an inverted violet/black singularity beam which sucks ships down into the miniature black hole, crushing them out of existence.
• Palpatine’s Force lightning looks/works exactly the same way as the Death Star II’s singularity beam, and affects Luke by spaghettifying his body and drawing him into Palpatine’s being.
• After Palpatine is thrown down the reactor shaft and explodes, a giant, ghostly sperm cell rises from the abyss before fading away.
• Sebastian Shaw is replaced with old Mark Hamill.
• The Rebels take out the Death Star II by destroying the miniature black hole.
• “Yub Nub” & “Victory Celebration” are replaced with “In Heaven (Lady in the Radiator Song)”.
• Force Ghost Yoda is now a giant.

Many of these ideas are actually good.

Except that Luke already carries the supporting cast on his back for the entire movie.

dahmage said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Guys, the trailer doesn’t have final color grading. It’s mostly to show off the cleanup work that’s been done, which if I’m not mistaken is also not quite done.

If it’s anything like 4K77, it’ll be ready to go in a couple weeks as far as cleanup and stuff goes, then everyone will argue about the color for six more months before it finally is released.

you forgot that we will also argue about the colors for six months after the release as well.

Or for those with uncalibrated monitors and a lack of good sense, forever.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

NeverarGreat said:

Wheels are a somewhat non-Star Warsy thing.

What are you talking about?

That is an image only a motherboard could love.

I’m going to be anathema to Duracell for a while:

Because I was bored and curious:

https://diff.pics/NfLUgLM4WurK/1

And one where the ladder is just rungs held together by the Force:

https://diff.pics/Go9n3HxGxixS/1

Incidentally, I find it slightly strange that the ST X-wings have wheels rather than those ski things from the OT. Wheels are a somewhat non-Star Warsy thing.

dahmage said:

SilverWook said:

Never mind that, where the heck does the X-wing ladder go when you’re not parked in a hangar? In the cut sandstorm footage from ROTJ, Luke basically chucks it on the ground before taking off.

It wouldn’t surprise me if there was already an in universe explanation for this, and I want to hear it. I could use a good laugh.

I know the Sequel Trilogy X-wings have a slot for what could conceivably be a telescoping ladder.

But as for the OT X-wings, who knows.

TV’s Frink said:

Bumping to highlight one of my favorite posts from this year.

NeverarGreat said:

This is the sort of quality content I appreciate.

Shucks.

The Wookies are on strike.

I think the skin tones look very filmic and there’s nice detail. It’s a bit heavy on the sharpening and there’s maybe too much cyan in the shadows, but other than that it looks very good indeed.

You just don’t understand the genius of sight (or lack thereof) as a thematic characterization of Anakin Skywalker in ROTJ, and the importance of referencing this characterization in a rare moment of (secretly) married bliss.

Heathens.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

And those are ESB helmets (black grilles)

How can you tell, at this resolution?

It looks like it’s been cut off, maybe due to aggressive matte work?

ForceGhostRecon said:

The official digital print is terribly dark. I had to brighten it in premiere just to make it watchable.

Definitely needed.

Here’s my attempt in Photoshop:
https://diff.pics/C8g5VfMXbhos/1

I just used low quality images from the internet, hence the proliferation of digital artifacts.

Possessed said:

NeverarGreat said:

the ‘The’ inside the ‘O’

Somehow I knew this would get ripped out of context. 😃

So now it’s 1986?

Much worse.