This might be a cheat answer, but I absolutely loved this new theme by John Williams that shows up in a few different tracks. I like to call it the “Family Theme” since it usually plays when Rey is on screen with her found family.
That whole track is the best.
I’m not going back to TLJ, and am not interested in substantial alterations to suit this movie.
I’m feeling cynical about this movie right now, and I’ll be trying to brew tea using cow urine. This movie might just be best enjoyed with a few drinks and laughter.
“They got Chewie! They got him!”
bahahahaha
Indeed. I had perhaps an optimal first viewing, going on 2 hours of sleep, and in that way it was hilarious. But even at its best it essentially ridicules the viewer for attempting to find greater meaning in the rest of the ST.
I haven’t touched any of my fanedit projects since it was released and that disinterest isn’t abating. Maybe something will change if they release a director’s cut of TROS, and I’ll probably finish Starlight and remain a part of this community, but even so this movie feels like the end of an era, and not in a good way. It makes me feel silly for caring about Star Wars. I could feel gutted and bitter, but it’s more fun to laugh.
Every frame is so dense.
Lightspeed skipping is like the Bayhem or action scenes from Roland Emmerich disaster movies, like driving a plane through a collapsing skyscraper as the world blows up around it. At a certain point the tension caused by the bending of known rules and physical laws is released and you simply have to sit back and watch the madness wash over you. And that’s not terrible. I enjoyed TROS mostly because of how willfully it destroyed tension in service of action schlock. There’s nothing wrong with that, and Star Wars has dabbled in that realm many times before.
But compare any of those Bayhem scenes to, say, the Langley heist from the first Mission Impossible movie. That is a scene which takes place in almost complete silence with a single guy on a wire. It takes a good ten or fifteen minutes and it’s one of the most creative, tense, rewarding ‘action’ sequences I’ve ever experienced. The reason it’s so good is that the movie establishes clear rules and is careful never to exceed them.
Again, Star Wars isn’t MI nor should it be. But the point is that rules breed creativity and tension within a movie and breaking them releases this creativity in favor of imagination and breaks tension in favor of spectacle.
I hate the lack of creativity and tension in TROS.
I love the imagination and spectacle of TROS.
That is all.
Anything to lessen or remove the lightspeed skipping would be a plus. It’s the most patently absurd part of the movie, and that’s saying something.
Might be weird with the festival part, but otherwise would work.
Although I think B works well, 4D is also really nice in terms of keeping everything. It still feels rather abrupt though. Maybe it would work if you seeded the idea of Palps trying to contact Kylo earlier in the film. Maybe it could be tied to the Force Skype idea in general; since Rey is connected to Palps through blood it makes some sense that Palps would be in on these calls to some extent as well. Maybe when Kylo is having his scar stitched there could be the sound of electrical interference and maybe a small spark from the medical droid, causing Kylo to brush it away. Or when he’s standing before the walkers in the hangar there could be the sound of a distorted intercom. It could be very subtle, but just something that keys the audience into the fact that strange things happen in their real world as the Force connection is made, and that these things are becoming more pronounced as they connect more and more.
It would also play into TROS with actual object teleportation.
Great work in any case!
This discussion is funny, but not “ha ha” funny.
Watch a 2-hour critique of a movie you love/hate/have mixed feelings on/indifferent towards or don’t. Whatever.
Truth.
With the Sith Wayfinder in TROS it would be really cool to see an illustration of it in the Jedi Texts in TLJ. It wouldn’t be too terribly convenient either since Luke was supposedly looking for Exegol before going after the First Jedi Temple, so he would have reason to turn to that page.
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Dew it.
Alright, I can run with clone madness being inherent in Force-sensitive clones. Vader’s persisting handicaps remain unresolved, though (or is Palpatine just that huge a dick?)
Isn’t it obvious?
Vader’s replacement parts would have to be Midi-compatible, and thus would individually go insane. Have you ever had a psychotic pair of lungs or a pyromaniac left leg?
Making Jakku Tatooine would at least go some way towards explaining some of the more coincidental aspects of the ST, such as why a group of Jedi adherents looking for Luke are camped out there. People on Tatooine would have a greater than average interest in the Falcon as well, so a Junk dealer like Plutt would probably want to buy it just to put it out front and attract more business with a famous ship. Also, Rey’s Palpatine parent might have been drawn to Tatooine because of its closeness to the two people who overthrew the Emperor and be drawn to it through the Force.
Finally, Rey’s final scene would have special significance to her since it’s a return to her beginning as well.
Of course I don’t think any of this is feasible due to the amount of times Jakku is name-dropped in the ST.
I also think the radio is a bit odd. Maybe if we got an indication that this radio broadcast was something only Kylo could hear, it would tie into the ‘voices in your head’ line from TROS. But really, in order to not reuse shots and make the scene feel like it’s cohesive, I think it will have to be just about Kylo/Rey or just about Kylo/Palps. The Kylo/Rey scene, as much as it is good on its own, has a finality about it as if Rey is shutting the door on any relationship they could have had, which feels weird based on TROS. So maybe cutting the Kylo/Rey bit would do more good than harm.
Or maybe it would shift between blue and white or blue and yellow to reflect the unstable crystal and Rey’s pull to the Dark Side.
Need the lightsaber toss though, not only is it necessary to show why Ben does not have a lightsaber when he visits Palp Tower … but it’s symbolic as heck.
It will also be important in Episode XIII when Kylan Gebo finds and uses this saber to become the master of the Knighted Confederacy of Ren.
Resurrection is one of the few things about this movie that makes it feel like a thematic conclusion to the Saga to me, so I’ll fight to keep Rey’s death.
Sure, but why not have it that her parents never came back? This genuinely feels like a mistake on Rian’s part, whereas almost all of his other departures from expectation were motivated by an important thematic reason. But regardless, we’re kinda getting off topic.
Kylo’s line ‘They’re dead in a pauper’s grave on Jakku’ makes me think that nobody making TLJ or TROS bothered to rewatch Rey’s vision from TFA.
Or maybe, if we must end the film on Tatooine, at least have the Force Ghosts on Tatooine in the Palpatine confrontation and then have her visit the homestead and bury the sabers after she has some personal connection to this place. In either case, Rey should respond to the old woman with ‘just Rey’.
If we’re sharing pie-in-the-sky ideas, I have one for the end of the film:
Palpatine drains the life essence from Rey and attacks the fleet with lightning. Rey’s consciousness rises through the sky and into the stars, and suddenly she is in a void. She hears the voice of Anakin calling to her, and the image of Tatooine - the slave quarters of Anakin’s youth. The scene shifts, to Naboo, to the Jedi temple on Coruscant, to the island, and at each location a new Jedi speaks. Finally she is back at Tatooine by the homestead. She sees the ghosts of all the Jedi appearing around her, and then comes back to the present. She defeats Palpatine, saying ‘I am all the Jedi’. She falls into unconsciousness again, and the homestead resolves around her one final time. She buries the sabers of Luke and Leia in the sand, signifying an end to the violence of the past. Ben cradles the deceased Rey back on Exegol and revives her. On Tatooine, Rey sees one final ghost join the throng - Ben. The scene disappears and she is back in the world of the living.
The film ends with the reunion at the Resistance base.
Your teaser is most impressive, you must be very proud.
Okay that was good.