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Neil S. Bulk

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#66107
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Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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Originally posted by: rennervision
From what I've heard, there is one possible solution to John Williams' missing score - right after Red Leader says, "This is it!" you should switch to the French language track. There's no problem with the music on that one because Lucas made a different "creative decision" for the French.

Bill Hunt has screwed up his report. Why am I not surprised. He still hasn't even given me credit for my findings. The actual line of dialogue is not "This is it!" but instead, "I'm going to cut across the axis and try and draw their fire!". That's where the music is dialled out, after that line!

Neil
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#65615
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Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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Originally posted by: Jay
Thanks for continuing to push these issues Neil, despite the overwhelming resistance from the HTF membership and moderators.

I've suddenly noticed an almost complete turn around there.

One person is giving me static still, saying the music mix in the surrounds is intended to be that way. If I posted in that thread, my reply might be, "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

Neil
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#65602
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Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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Originally posted by: justlnluck
Isn't there a way we can contact Lucasfilm and alert them about this problem. George Lucas is a perfectionist, I'm sure he still would want the soundtrack to play correctly in his films...even if his vison of star wars is entirely different than our own.

The Digital Bits is now reporting these errors and will be contacting Lucasfilm about it!

Neil
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#65556
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Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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Originally posted by: Jay
Fixed the link for you. FuseTalk code is unfortunately different from the vBulletin code a lot of people are familiar with.

Thanks!

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Originally posted by: Jay
I've been reading your clashes with the fanboys over at HTF in the big Star Wars thread. For all their talk, I don't think any of those morons cares a bit about the quality of the presentation. They go on and on about the improvements in image quality, but have no problems overlooking the many obvious screwups, both audio and video. I've pretty much stopped posting at HTF because the membership there has become dominated by a bunch of posers who pretend to be movie and home theater enthusiasts.

Jay, I found out about this site because of your posts there.

I never realized it was that bad there until I found a really obvious mistake (the reversed music in the surround channels cannot be an artistic decision) and I was grilled there. Wild accusations were thrown, that I was watching a bootleg, that I just had an axe to grind. Anything was said and done to discredit me. The truth is tomorrow they are going to get this disc and if they care to check (it's not tough, I provided timings for everything) they'll see that the music track is mixed all wrong during the movie.

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Originally posted by: Jay
I listened to the audio clips you posted comparing the laserdisc mix to the new DVD mix, and it's true--the background score really is butchered.

Yeah, and that was a really old laser disc mix at that. BTW, did you ever notice that side three of that set is much louder than the rest and one of the channels (the left I think it is) is even louder than the right? It's only on side three of the pan and scan CAV LD. I made a 2 CD recording of the sound (someday I'll put it on DVD with the 1993 picture transfer) and I had to do some work to get that to match the rest of the sides.


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Originally posted by: Jay
Where's the quality control?

It amazes me that this disc made it all the way to retail and no one caught the messed up surround channels. What scares me even more is that future versions of the movie will probably use this mix. While I really have no interest in re-re-re-re done Star Wars it's sad to think that not only will the original Oscar winning mix never be heard again, but that the music will never be heard properly again either.

Neil
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#36081
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George Lucas no longer cares
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
everything he released pre prequel was a quality product...

only after the prequels has Star Wars as well as the entire Lucasfilm company went to shit....

Products like the 2 Ewok films and Willow, Radioland Murders and Howard the Duck? Heck, I even hate Return of the Jedi. And the Holiday Special was most certainly a product released by Lucas. It was bought by a TV network.

About the only thiings that were good after Star Wars were The Empire Strikes Back and the Indiana Jones films (which had a lot of creative input from Spielberg).

Essentially there should be no surprise that the SE's and the prequels are of substandard quality. Lucas hasn't made a truly good product in a long time.

Neil