Mrebo

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

http://www.ksbw.com/article/seaside-high-teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class/19426017

That teacher has no business teaching anyone gun safety(if I understand gun safety enough). I could be mistaken, but I doubt it.

Why even shoehorn in this little bit of apologetics. You know full well (I hope) that this was absurd and incompetent. You don’t need to understand gun safety to know that a person shouldn’t be waving a gun around on school property and if he’s dumb enough load it and fire it (even accidentally) inside then he certainly is not competent enough to carry a gun, much less be a police officer. This is the shit I’m referring to when I complain about how there is almost a complete lack of standards when it comes to who gets to be a cop.

Do you know anything about standards to be a police officer? We can find innumerable bad examples from any profession but that doesn’t indicate an almost complete lack of standards.

This cop/teacher obviously did something wrong. Anyone can have an accident (which doesn’t prove much) but the nature of this accident suggests recklessness. The way the school handled it is really bizarre.

NeverarGreat said:

SilverWook said:

NeverarGreat said:

I remember Warriors of Virtue. Barely.

I have it on Laserdisc, and there’s a preservation project going on somewhere. Need to find out what’s going on with that.

I’d be interested in it.

Politics.

I could have been the something blue.

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

CatBus said:

Well, that’s it. Mueller can go home now. There’s no basis to any of it. Cue the pardons!

I have to subscribe to read the full article? Fuck off, WSJ.

WSJ? Who is that? btw, I could not read the whole article, it said something about have to sign in or sign up and I am not going to do that.

Warriors of Social Justice.

Actually, that is how I first read it, but I quickly realized that wasn’t right.

I did an actual, real-life face palm.

I did a fist pump.

Just want you all to know I intend to see every Disney Star Wars movie and then come here to complain about them.

If we can reduce Collipso’s comment to “treat people you disagree with in a respectful way,” we should be in okay shape. Another member called those who like the PT “irrational.” Even as a joke I don’t think it flies if I call those who like TLJ “irrational.” And maybe not everyone can take a joke.

That said I hope I’m invited to the wedding when Dom and TLJ finally tie the knot.

suspiciouscoffee said:

A friend of mine told me his older brother not only wanted to get in touch with me, but that he was excited to do so. He still hasn’t, though. Am I being paranoid or cynical if I say that I’m starting to think he didn’t actually care to talk to me?

People get busy/distracted. I can be really bad about contacting people and staying in touch.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

When I disagree with a conservative friend or colleague on some political issue, I have no fear of speaking my mind. I talk, they listen, they respond, I talk some more, and at the end of it we get along just as we always have. But I’ve discovered that when a progressive friend says something with which I disagree or that I know to be incorrect, I’m hesitant to point it out.

truth.

Ah yes, only Conservatives are rational. Yay.

that is not what I said.

Almost like Frink is trying to prove the article right!

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

i suppose you can believe whatever you want, despite our saying the opposite?

I suppose I can.

yay, end of that particular discussion then.

Well you don’t want to participate anymore, that is fine. But please don’t speak for anyone else.

Yeah, that’s Warbler’s job!

I kid, I kid… 😋

Warbler said:

Well the left leaning bias is on full display here. I have no doubt if a major Republican politician claimed to be part Native American and didn’t look anything like a Native American, people in here would be saying take a DNA test or fess up.

I don’t know if people in here would be saying that but I’m pretty sure there would be plenty of mocking.

On the topic of bias and arguments, this article on “progressive hostility” looks compelling. I’ve only read a little of it but I’ve heard similar complaints from people I know.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/us/texas-austin-blasts/index.html

Hope anyone in Austin is staying safe. Sick people in this world.

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My grandmother for years said we were like 1/32 native american… something about her having a grandmother named “Hawk” or some such. Well, my sister just took a test and it turns out we have absolutely zero native american DNA. Apparently this is a common story.

Doesn’t mean you don’t have a Native ancestor that far back but at that point the amount inherited can be negligible/undetectable. And that grandmother’s grandmother might have only been half, making less likely to find. It’s even possible to have no DNA from an ancestor (which seems paradoxical). There is a lot of pride taken in the possibility of a Native ancestor.

So you’re saying even if Warren took the test and had no Native DNA, she still might have a Native ancestor? If that’s the case, why would she risk seeming wrong even if she isn’t?

Exactly right. And what dahmage said. Might behoove her to give an apology for at least overselling/exploiting her possible heritage. She did embarrassing things in that regard. She doesn’t want this to persist as a symbol of an overall character of dishonesty. Some people will never let go of it but whatchya gonna do.

It just seems like a weird situation. She put down that she was part Cherokee decades ago. It was only brought up again recently because of her political opponents. When it was, she explained how her parents always told her she was part Native. So what is she supposed to do now? What is she supposed to apologize for? Wouldn’t saying sorry imply that she lied? Even if she did lie, it’d be silly to admit as much. This is a situation where it’s very easy to believe that her parents told her this.

As Catbus noted, there’s basically no way to escape a 'ghazi like this.

I basically agree. Obama had the skill and/or media assistance to escape all kinds of traps. Warren doesn’t have the same magic. I think she tried to do so in her recent speech but she obviously fell way short. The real problem is that this could remain a symbol of her overall character and be used against her when she calls out others. She could apologize for the cookbook incident and for overstating her heritage.

Hope it’s clear this isn’t a big deal for me. I just think there’s something she could do to improve, however slightly, her image.

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Dom, I don’t think there is a DNA test that will reliably indicate a person to be French. The testing simply isn’t attuned to that. Some say it’s because France forbids collection of DNA info. Another explanation is that the DNA patterns essentially predate France. There is a lot of imprecision, especially when it comes to continental Europe.

Thanks for the support. But I must say it wasn’t like 50% of my dad’s DNA wasn’t accounted for, it just turns out he’s actually half British. So yes, forget continental Europe.

You’re right of course he may not actually be. I can trace my Frenchy ancestors back hundreds of years with a couple U.K. people way back, but I’m 20% between U.K. and Ireland. Lots of mixing around.

CatBus said:

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My grandmother for years said we were like 1/32 native american… something about her having a grandmother named “Hawk” or some such. Well, my sister just took a test and it turns out we have absolutely zero native american DNA. Apparently this is a common story.

Doesn’t mean you don’t have a Native ancestor that far back but at that point the amount inherited can be negligible/undetectable. And that grandmother’s grandmother might have only been half, making less likely to find. It’s even possible to have no DNA from an ancestor (which seems paradoxical). There is a lot of pride taken in the possibility of a Native ancestor.

So you’re saying even if Warren took the test and had no Native DNA, she still might have a Native ancestor? If that’s the case, why would she risk seeming wrong even if she isn’t?

And that’s one of the better scenarios. When you game this out, the opposition can have a line of attack prepped that works regardless of the test’s outcome. One such attack could be “DelayGate” – why did she hold off on getting a blood test for so long? Could she have detectable Syphilis antibodies from a previous infection? Is that why she did one of those “ancestry-only” tests instead of a full medical bloodwork analysis? Instead of “Pocahontas” she’s now called “Syphilitic Liz” and so on. Now just like Obama’s birth certificate, the media can go on about how Syphilis doesn’t make you crazy if you catch it early enough, and that Warren’s policy positions are unlikely affected by her medical history.

I like how I’m giving campaign advice for Warren and you’re giving advice for the other side 🤣

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My grandmother for years said we were like 1/32 native american… something about her having a grandmother named “Hawk” or some such. Well, my sister just took a test and it turns out we have absolutely zero native american DNA. Apparently this is a common story.

Doesn’t mean you don’t have a Native ancestor that far back but at that point the amount inherited can be negligible/undetectable. And that grandmother’s grandmother might have only been half, making less likely to find. It’s even possible to have no DNA from an ancestor (which seems paradoxical). There is a lot of pride taken in the possibility of a Native ancestor.

So you’re saying even if Warren took the test and had no Native DNA, she still might have a Native ancestor? If that’s the case, why would she risk seeming wrong even if she isn’t?

Exactly right. And what dahmage said. Might behoove her to give an apology for at least overselling/exploiting her possible heritage. She did embarrassing things in that regard. She doesn’t want this to persist as a symbol of an overall character of dishonesty. Some people will never let go of it but whatchya gonna do.

Dom, I don’t think there is a DNA test that will reliably indicate a person to be French. The testing simply isn’t attuned to that. Some say it’s because France forbids collection of DNA info. Another explanation is that the DNA patterns essentially predate France. There is a lot of imprecision, especially when it comes to continental Europe.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My grandmother for years said we were like 1/32 native american… something about her having a grandmother named “Hawk” or some such. Well, my sister just took a test and it turns out we have absolutely zero native american DNA. Apparently this is a common story.

Doesn’t mean you don’t have a Native ancestor that far back but at that point the amount inherited can be negligible/undetectable. And that grandmother’s grandmother might have only been half, making less likely to find. It’s even possible to have no DNA from an ancestor (which seems paradoxical). There is a lot of pride taken in the possibility of a Native ancestor.

I like Warb’s consistency in wanting politicians to be forthright.

This is a story that mostly amuses me. Warren is such a pitbull and looks for any pretense to tear apart those she disagrees with. She identified as Native American in professional settings and even Native Americans have been miffed by that. Nice seeing her get a taste of her own medicine. Like most politicians she doesn’t want to admit mistake or apologize.

I have a modicum of sympathy because I know people who strongly believe themselves to be Native American and associate with that culture. The trouble is that it is based on a vague family story and after several generations any amount of Native American DNA may be undetectable.

Warren made a fool of herself in holding herself out as Native American but it’s not the biggest story. She doesn’t have the skill of Obama to turn it into a seemingly profound teaching moment so it will haunt her.

Handman said:

I got a job at a museum today. Well, more like volunteering. But it’s a start. I’ll get into the Library of Congress yet.

Very cool. What sort of museum?

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/09/news/martin-shkreli-sentencing/index.html

I suspect Shkreli only has crocodile tears but it’s still nice to see someone so smug and hyped up on their intelligence get punished.

moviefreakedmind said:

Someone was kind enough to give me a piece of furniture that they didn’t need anymore, but once I moved it into my house I noticed that there were ants everywhere. I hate ants! They’re only on and around this new end table, though. It’s sitting next to a patio door and I’m not sure if the ants were in the table and its drawers to begin with, or if they came in through the door and just happen to be on the table because it’s right next to the door. I can’t believe they’d come from outside since it’s still well below forty degrees out most days. Either way it’s not a huge deal since a quick spray-down of the doorway and table with Raid killed every single one of the things, but I don’t know how they got in. There’s not even anything for them to eat because I keep an obsessively clean house.

Carpenter ants maybe. They burrow inside wood.

Sometimes that is preferable company. Still hope we see him again soon.

Congratulations and thank you, Jay.

WBW!