Mrebo

The sun’s gettin’ real low.

Warbler said:

What “joke” do you refer to?

Last sentence of my post.

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls?

Time after time when someone does, a mod steps in and tells the member not to.

Mrebo said:

I don’t think mfm was going after anyone, but rather making a joke based on the situation and ones like it. But mfm couldn’t stage an exodus because nobody would go with him.

Well I am sick of tired of these “jokes”.

How about the “joke” I made?

What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls? I don’t think mfm was going after anyone, but rather making a joke based on the situation and ones like it. But mfm couldn’t stage an exodus because nobody would go with him.

Trump Administration kicks out 60 Russian “diplomats.”

I caught an unfortunate soundbite. My SO had the remote and mercifully changed the channel quickly.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

The idea that I must agree with anybody and everybody in a GOP administration is absurd. I didn’t even vote for it. Also, I wager there are any number of things the last administration did that didn’t align with your particular views. If you supported the last administration, I don’t think that means you supported every policy. mfm occasionally champions individual perspective and experience, as he did in response to the NYT article, but then seems to forget that individuals exist.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Also, this really needs to be retired. It was great when Luke said it and immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it, and it this point it’s been said far too often even if it wasn’t immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it.

I don’t disagree but it fit and mfm’s post was no less tired than that response.

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Firstly, it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

Secondly, as I’ve said previously, if you want to discuss a particular policy issue with me, feel free to raise it. Tell me what it was that I previously defended that is at fault for the hopelessness.

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

That’s what she- wait, isn’t OT supposed to be down?

Ms. Thrawn said:

Even if we count the prequels for fun . . . the impression I got from the original six films is that the Jedi viewed “bring balance to the Force” as “make sure the light side wins”. Whether or not that qualifies as balance is up in the air, but it at least makes sense inside the story. Luke helps turn Vader back into Anakin, who then kills the Emperor.

Then TLJ throws a monkey wrench by implying that the Force tries to balance itself between light and dark. Snoke could’ve just been sharing his weird opinion, but it goes too far in explaining Rey’s aptitude.

As far as the Force having a will? That could very well be but a superstition among Jedi and to a lesser extent Sith (who like to preach about destiny). There are ghosts living in the spiritual realm who have minds of their own, I guess. Maybe “will of the Force” is the majority vote of a ghost committee. 😛

Your interpretation of the awakening is nice and sound. I agree. 😃

Million times yes.

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Handman said:

Warbler said:

Just saw this on the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kURlp17F1wo

it was composed by by a 12 year old girl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Deutscher

amazing.

Here is violin concerto she wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zad7fkhGzzs

wow.

Thanks for making me feel even more incompetent. This is fantastic.

Yeah, playing piano and violin is overkill.

In case you didn’t realize it, she also composes.

Yeah. The brat. Makes my compositions sound like they were done by a normal 12 year old. Okay, well maybe they do sound like that.

Handman said:

Warbler said:

Just saw this on the net.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kURlp17F1wo

it was composed by by a 12 year old girl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Deutscher

amazing.

Here is violin concerto she wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zad7fkhGzzs

wow.

Thanks for making me feel even more incompetent. This is fantastic.

Yeah, playing piano and violin is overkill.

Aside from his desire to bomb all the countries, okay. My hope is that he won’t be taken seriously.

moviefreakedmind said:

There’s no way to alter our ways of life because there are no alternatives presented to us, and a handful of people choosing to not drive cars isn’t going to make any difference. Government needs to force big business to stop destroying the environment and create alternatives. It’s the only way. Nuclear power is also important.

There are many alternatives and changes we could make. A substantial portion of our population say they believe in climate change caused by humans. If all of those people were to walk and bike whenever possible, put their heat a couple degrees lower, go to bed earlier to reduce electricity usage, and make similar modifications, the reduction would be tremendous.

The idea that an individual or a handful of individuals can’t make a difference underlies a lot of our thinking in politics. It’s why a lot of people don’t vote. There is a real feeling of powerlessness. And I think part of it is really an excuse for not wanting to suffer inconvenience.

We do make certain righteous choices when others see that we’re doing it or relate to our own morals. Ethical vegans aren’t going to stop the slaughter of animals by not eating meat but that is what they would like to see happen. They can avoid partaking in the immoral practice and collectively reduce demand which results in fewer animals killed. People buy an electric car because it is tangible and gives the sense of moral practice. Simply making the choice to drive less could yield the same benefits of having an electric car but driving the same amount.

Turning your lights off and heat down don’t yield those same benefits. For all the complaints about the environment and global warming, it isn’t seen as a matter or morality or ethics. On Earth Day some corporate buildings go dark for an hour and then back to business as usual. But that is the kind of thing meant to impress and show real care.

Nuclear power is one promising source of energy but inspires fears greater than earthquakes for anyone living near one.

I’ve only experienced very minor earthquakes.

moviefreakedmind said:

This is completely short-sighted. It’s the mindset of “the world won’t be destroyed within our lifetimes, so who cares?”

moviefreakedmind said:

People don’t do anything about it in their own lives because making little sacrifices like riding the bus won’t make any real difference.

Like you, I am merely making observations. Our demand dictates the use of fossil fuels. Electric cars reduce our reliance a little, but not that much. I am fully convinced we will use most of the fossil fuels on this planet because we want to continue as we have been and other sources of energy are more expensive and less convenient. Nuclear power is obviously one major way of reducing our reliance on fossil fuels. But people are more afraid of that than any minor earthquakes that may result from fracking. The idea of nuclear plants all over the place make me nervous.

Unless we (and the rest of the world) are willing to dramatically alter our way of life, I don’t see an alternative to using our fossil fuels. We can slow down that use but I don’t see it ending.

chyron8472 said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate modern Disney.

I think Disney knows. As a child I got excited by the castle opening of their movies. Classic Disney was great. If Disney was still held in such regard, it would have been proud to start TFA and TLJ with its Disney castle in lieu of the necessarily omitted Fox fanfare.

Disney often makes movies that they don’t use the Disney logo for. They didn’t even use it for Who Framed Roger Rabbit? but used their Touchstone Pictures brand instead.

But if there were warm fuzzy feelings about Disney, using their logo to replace the Fox fanfare would have been perfect.

Handman said:

I just wore polos and did homework.

SilverWook said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Yeah, impeding things that will turn our country’s environment into a shithole (hey, I thought Trump was against shithole countries!) is a really horrible thing to do.

CatBus said that Obama aided various pipeline initiatives (in part at least) to combat Russia. I don’t know how true that is but it’s arguably a worthwhile trade. But in any event, we have pipelines crisscrossing this country. It’s crazy to say one particular one is one too many or that stopping it will change our consumption. Fracking is vilified too and yet we all enjoy the benefits of it. I know very few people who restrict themselves and avoid conveniences in order to help the environment. For all the complaining about fossil fuels I don’t see many people doing anything about it in their own lives.

What would you call the benefits of earthquakes in places that normally didn’t have any before fracking began?

I can’t think of any way to continue our society with economic growth and comfort without using fossil fuels for the foreseeable future. Whatever we try, there are tradeoffs. We started using more ethanol but that actually takes a tremendous amount of energy to produce, hurts engines/fuel efficiency, and increases food costs. We buy fossil fuels from the Middle East and we prop up horrible governments. It seems to me that fracking yields great benefits with relatively minor costs compared to the alternatives.

Han and Gringo have a little chat.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

I hope Han and Gringo get walkie-talkies.

who is this Gringo?

moviefreakedmind said:

Yeah, impeding things that will turn our country’s environment into a shithole (hey, I thought Trump was against shithole countries!) is a really horrible thing to do.

CatBus said that Obama aided various pipeline initiatives (in part at least) to combat Russia. I don’t know how true that is but it’s arguably a worthwhile trade. But in any event, we have pipelines crisscrossing this country. It’s crazy to say one particular one is one too many or that stopping it will change our consumption. Fracking is vilified too and yet we all enjoy the benefits of it. I know very few people who restrict themselves and avoid conveniences in order to help the environment. For all the complaining about fossil fuels I don’t see many people doing anything about it in their own lives.

TV’s Frink said:

I hope Han and Gringo get walkie-talkies.

“So Who Talks First? You Talk First? I Talk First?”

SilverWook said:

The same pipeline that had a leak and spill last year?

The very same!

I live very close to an American Film Institute theater and they play older movies all the time. I hardly ever go, mostly out of forgetfulness and laziness.