Mrebo

Not a share your good news day? Congratulations on reaching the end of that era.

Precious.

Oh my.

Possessed said:

Does anybody want to hear mine?

Psychically or textually.

Gotta agree. The more people alienated by major parties the more they must change or go away.

There are things Trump has done that I like. Based only on policies/judges, Trump is better than Clinton. If I stopped there, the choice would be easy. But given issues of character and temperament, among other issues, I couldn’t vote for him in good conscience.

The Don West actor has much improved since his stint on Bones. And I’m told that that was an improvement from his time on General Hospital. Kind of neat to see someone who isn’t a natural actor improve over time (and keep getting jobs).

The show is pretty good. I don’t like when in the midst of a crisis situation, they have moments between characters to expound upon feelings, as if they have all the time in the world, but that seems a common issue in made for TV adventure.

suspiciouscoffee said:

A Serbian Film

Terrifying.

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Also time travel implications.

Why is that political?

We could find out what Clinton would have been like.

I think we have a pretty good idea.

I think we’re not sure about that.

Well apparently you didn’t have a good idea what Trump would be like even though it was super obvious he’d be exactly what he is, so I dunno, maybe you’re just not good at this sort of thing.

Could be I’m not good at this sort of thing. Trump has ‘been’ what I basically expected but has done things I didn’t trust he would/could do like appoint conservative judges and moved the ball on NK and Israel in ways I think positive. At the end of the day I think the trick is to get people to vote as you would have then vote else they probably shouldn’t.

TV’s Frink said:

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Also time travel implications.

Why is that political?

We could find out what Clinton would have been like.

I think we have a pretty good idea.

I think we’re not sure about that.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

Also time travel implications.

Why is that political?

We could find out what Clinton would have been like.

Also time travel implications.

See, today’s futuristic cars are deadly.

Without having to turn and remove a key to shut off the motor, drivers can be lulled into mistakenly thinking that the car has stopped running.

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I think voting for none of the above is a meaningful choice. Third parties have little hope if we must insist they can’t win. I get the pragmatic consideration of picking somebody who can win, who is even marginally better, but there are other valid ways of weighing who to vote for.

I’m fine with Frink or whoever else thinking it’s crazy, but in the last election I didn’t see a marginally better choice.

Do you still feel that way now?

We can never know how terrible (or not) it would have been under Clinton so I can’t say. Trump has exceeded my (low) expectations in some areas to advance conservative causes. Maybe Clinton would have been like her husband and made deals to pass conservative policies with the GOP congress and maybe she’d have us more heavily involved in Syria. Too many what ifs.

The notion that everybody should obviously have voted for Clinton is nonsense. I think all of America should have refrained from voting in 2016.

I think the notion that everybody should have refrained from voting is nonsense.

That’s fair, but it would have been the right thing to do.

I think voting for none of the above is a meaningful choice. Third parties have little hope if we must insist they can’t win. I get the pragmatic consideration of picking somebody who can win, who is even marginally better, but there are other valid ways of weighing who to vote for.

I’m fine with Frink or whoever else thinking it’s crazy, but in the last election I didn’t see a marginally better choice.

The notion that everybody should obviously have voted for Clinton is nonsense. I think all of America should have refrained from voting in 2016.

oojason said:

Mrebo said:

No idea what this show is but the big guy looks familiar. The guy in the middle is really enjoying himself.

Gerry from ER?

I think that’s where I recognised him from, anyway.

That’s right!

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Mrebo said:

No idea what this show is

I thought you were old enough to know.

I might be younger than you think or I’m so old my memory is shot.

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:
The guy in the middle is really enjoying himself.

I have to give you credit. This sentence made me laugh harder than anything I’ve ever read on this site.

🤣 well then I’m proud of myself!

No idea what this show is but the big guy looks familiar. The guy in the middle is really enjoying himself.

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” - HL Mencken

DuracellEnergizer said:

Eight chapters in, and I’m at a loss understanding why this book is so beloved. No character has any real personality, and the descriptions are clinical and passionless; the book feels like it was written by an emotionless robot. Maybe the story improves further along, but I really don’t feel compelled to find out.

It’s written to be a fairy tale, which are usually simply told. Baum’s view was that children get bored by detailed descriptions and their imaginations are permitted to work more when the author does less. You have to buy into the concept that this little girl finds herself in a strange land and takes it in stride as she seeks to get home. I wonder if you might like “The Marvelous Land of Oz” or “The Patchwork Girl of Oz,” which do have more dynamic characters I think and a bit more going on.

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I get it, depends on your state. Which is a great argument against the Electrical College.

And the popular vote total matters when the most insecure person in the world doesn’t get more votes.

If one truly believes the most winnable candidates are so bad neither deserves their vote, that is an important statement too. If I were in a swing state I’m sure I would have agonized more but don’t think my vote would have changed.

If yo were in a swing state and your vote wouldn’t have changed, you would have been one of the people responsible for our current president.

And if you think either would have been equally bad, sounds reasonable.

I think we’re all responsible in a way.

Ehh…

A lot had to happen to make Trump possible.

Yep.

Including putting Clinton up as the Democratic candidate.

I don’t think so. I mean, I liked Bernie more than Hillary, but I think most of America would have seen him as some fringe commie, so I don’t think either Dem could have beat Trumpy. Now, if Biden ran, I think he could’ve won.

Maybe we should be blaming Joe Biden. Makes more sense than blaming me or mfm.

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

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I get it, depends on your state. Which is a great argument against the Electrical College.

And the popular vote total matters when the most insecure person in the world doesn’t get more votes.

If one truly believes the most winnable candidates are so bad neither deserves their vote, that is an important statement too. If I were in a swing state I’m sure I would have agonized more but don’t think my vote would have changed.

If yo were in a swing state and your vote wouldn’t have changed, you would have been one of the people responsible for our current president.

And if you think either would have been equally bad, sounds reasonable.

I think we’re all responsible in a way. A lot had to happen to make Trump possible. Including putting Clinton up as the Democratic candidate.

TV’s Frink said:

I get it, depends on your state. Which is a great argument against the Electrical College.

And the popular vote total matters when the most insecure person in the world doesn’t get more votes.

If one truly believes the most winnable candidates are so bad neither deserves their vote, that is an important statement too. If I were in a swing state I’m sure I would have agonized more but don’t think my vote would have changed.

I agree on importance of voting, disagree that everybody needs to vote for one of the top two (“winnable”) candidates.