Mrebo

If anyone else plays, I'm a human named Joso on Krayt Dragon server.

TheBoost said:

Mrebo said:

I intend to. Any particular server people care to gang up on?

 Let me know. I've never MMORPGed before, so not sure how it works.

I'll be the level one dude with a name variation something along the line of "Boost"

I'll go for a US server (apart from about 3 OTers, not sure who else is from elsewhere). I'll likely choose bounty hunter. Name still up in the air. Will figure it out hopefully early Thursday. LOTRO is my game, so far no other MMO has been more compelling. I've heard TOR is a good solid game, but not all that different from many others. Nonetheless, I have my weakness for Star Wars.

Apparently, play is limited to your character's origin and capital worlds. Hmm. We'll see.

I intend to. Any particular server people care to gang up on?

I'm waiting for the pieces to all come together for me. I feel that lots of this would work well for a novelization. A Star Wars film is thematically simple and what some call "campy." Your writing does provide lots of great background that could be adapted into the action-oriented and sometimes silly Star Wars feel. To that end, I wonder how to present the complex story of xenophobia and humanocentrism in the most basic and understandable terms without getting into the weeds and making things overly political.

I remember as a young child being impressed with the realization that the Empire was the government and that the "good guys" were the minority of people fighting the government. It was never explained what precipitated the rebellion or what the Empire had ever done that was so bad. Merely depicting the Empire as evil (choking people, willing to blow up planets) and the rebellion as heroic, we never had to care exactly why this was all happening. An older audience could draw conclusions based on ideas about democracy vs empire, but the movie itself never felt preachy. We were given little tiny windows into the government and politics through snippets of dialogue (eg "senate will never stand for this"), but it was never the focus of the film.

What you've developed is excellent. I'm just trying to see how it works out in the fun and punchy Star Wars universe. I look forward to more!

Akwat Kbrana said:

You keep trying to discredit Islam with an inherent assumption/belief that Christianity is "correct".

Where did you get that idea? Can you find a single sentence of mine in this thread that says anything to that effect? I'm not trying to credit or discredit any religion. My interest is in allowing each religion to speak for itself, rather than forcing them all into a conceptual straightjacket with a priori decrees such as, "These three religions worship the same God." My argument is simply that if you allow each religious community to define its own terms, you will find that their three disparate conceptions of God are incompatible with one another.

Rather than assuming that any particular religion is correct, I think the error is in presuming that none are true (or that it doesn't matter).

It becomes a literary exercise if we observe only how differently each conception is from one another and then declare them "different gods" based on how irreconcilable they appear to be. That is a sterile exercise.

If, on the other hand, we accept the existence of a deity (for the purpose of debate) and inquire whether each religion in question is worshiping that deity, we are required to consider how the conceptions fit with another. To do otherwise delimits God (ie the god concept), a priori. The idea of irreconcilability does matter in terms of whether one is 'doing it right,' but I don't think that's what we're arguing.

Forgive the blasphemous illustration which follows. If someone accepts the gist of the Bible but believes Lucifer is actually the good guy and that Jehovah promulgated a distorted view of events because he's just that evil (ie the true deity is the one perceived as "Satan"). To this end, such a satanist develops all kinds of ideas about what is true and what is false in the bible and supplements it with his own 'revelations.'

That view is not at all reconcilable (in the sense you've been using the word) with Christianity. Worshiping "Satan" is not the same as worshiping "God" but the mere fact that these views are irreconcilable is not evidence that different beings are worshiped or that the satanist believes in a different "Jehovah." It's not like, "oh, that John Smith." A different perception of a being does not mean it is in fact a different being. That is the error I see in your approach.

georgec has a better grasp on historical and textual elements than I do. As he points out, the religions in question reference the same historical events and revelations.

I'm a collector. In addition to my Star Wars, I have my childhood coin collection, interesting old books, the odd antique item, anything really. Not quite a hoarder but I don't like to get rid of things.

Politics. Which leads me to collecting all kinds of political articles.

I have this gnawing desire to make a movie based on Camus's "The Stranger." I have an utterly brilliant conception for it. My mother told me I was "obsessed" when I was explaining it to her, simply because I've mentioned the book several times over the years.

I have many minor obsessions - muppets, monkeys, and Earl Grey tea (tea is an obsession in general).

It's not always easy to convince a person how crucial it is.

Bingowings said:

That's six arms and one Tom Baker.

Can never get enough Tom Baker.

Still, it's a good example!

TheBoost said:

zombie84 said:

Sinbad... And the Eye of the Tiger, i think?

 I think youre right. I get those confused and am too lazy to look it up.

I was curious procrastinating so I took the effort.

captainsolo said:

How's everybody doing in this regard? Hopefully better.

That said, I'm not. I've been doing training for an at-home call servicing opportunity and been jerked around for the past three months. Studied, lost sleep, paid money I didn't need to, got equipment and am just being thrown into a mess of stuff.

Just insane. On top of this it really looks like my mom is about to be fired from her job. (It's been this way for over a year, constant threat of being fired/let go.) What the heck happened to the job market to make things so unbelievably cutthroat and dire? I know the economy is beyond terrible, I know everything tanked but to have everything become so completely cutthroat and impartial is insane.

So I've started doing a whole other batch of job applications (my daily thing) while on the phone and chat with this stupid servicing company (who never answers anything). I'm even to the point of writing some more crazy last-ditch letters to places/people who I really admire in the hopes that I might get some kind of response. (not that I ever really do)

I am just done with this whole thing. I did the film school thing and got chewed up by it. I know unemployment is what happens when you get out, but at this point I'm still just drifting about alone in the ocean.

How does one actually enjoy any part of being unemployed? I'm going nuts being stuck in one place with nothing to do.

Being stuck and feeling hopeless is the worst. I've spent this day making some calls in between posting here and reading the news. Anyone know of law jobs, intellectually engaging government jobs (heh), or something along similar lines in the Northeast or adjacent areas? :p You could always take some shots in the dark for media advisor positions with political campaigns. Any kind of small breakthrough in film - if that still is your chosen field - can make a difference in the long run. Worst thing is letting your resume waste away.

TheBoost said:

This is less about how the visuals were achieved, but about the lack of passion put into them.

Think of how awesome the following should have looked

• A guy fighting with two lightsabers at once.
• A lightsaber duel in the dark.
• A guy fighting a four-armed monster each arm wielding a lightsaber.

 

The lightsabers in the dark I fantasized about in the 80s. When I was in middle-school I made an art project called "Jedi Fighting In a Cave" with a piece of black construction paper, whiteout, and highlighter pens.

Yet all three ammount to nothing. Nothing memorable or exciting. They all last for less than ten seconds.

I think the commentary on the ROTS DVD said that they couldn't figure out how to do a four-armed sword fight, resulting in Grievous losing two arms in 9 seconds.

Ray Harryhausen did in with STOP MOTION in 1973!!!

What should have been these extremely fun and visual fights almost result in just a throwaway joke.

Very much this. As a film maker, one would think, "how can I present this idea in the most exciting and impactful way?" The framing, the backdrop, all of it. I don't feel that in the PT. It is a series of places filled with things. Places and things that took great creativity and effort but were not meant to showcase any particular visual element nor move the story forward.

XyZ said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

J'espère, qu'un jour, je vous aurai présenté une pipe. C'est existentiel.

huh?

 Houla ! Disons que c' est le genre de choses qu' il ne faut pas forcer ! Ca se présente tout seul naturellement, ou pas du tout.

Précisément!

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

 it is easy to dispense with all kinds of etiquette.

not for me it isn't.  I am not sure where people get the idea that good manners stops at the computer keyboard.

All I'm saying is that it's easy to ignore some rules of etiquette. Some people are more direct no matter the forum. If one wishes to be glib and sarcastic with strangers, that may not be polite but it isn't meant to be taken that seriously either.

Mrebo said:

We're addressing representations of people.

incorrect, we are addressing people.   I know you are a real human being with a heart and feelings, and you know the same about me.

Maybe you are exactly the same in the real life as you are on the internet. I'm sure a lot of us are different though. We project a persona. It's not about pretending to be someone else (for the most part). It's that we are able to sit back and think of a thoughtful response or not respond at all (when we may otherwise be a raving lunatic). We are able to throw out the first caustic thought that comes to mind because we think it's witty (when we may otherwise be quite reserved). We can offer advice as if we're a newspaper columnist and not as if we're speaking to a stranger face-to-face. And whatever we post, we can easily go back to watching funny videos, rather than anticipating an immediate and direct reply. And since we're strangers, we don't know any better what the other person is really like.

Sometimes people do cross a line. I've seen that happen against you and others have risen to your defense.

Mrebo said:

But you're right that the ignore function exists for a reason. I have no use for it but my puppet has thick felt.

so I guess you telling me that I am thin skinned?  you wouldn't be the first to tell me that. 

I'm saying that my puppet has thick felt! When "Voldemort" (he who must not be named) frequented these forums, he threw out personal insults. In real life I would have taken that personally. On here, I got more annoyed with his negative impact on discussion. The fact that he was trying to be clever and actually doesn't know me made it natural to forgo further emotional impact. I had the option of responding to his posts in a measured fashion, designed to reveal his foolishness (not that he needed help). In real life I would have put him on ignore.

J'espère, qu'un jour, je vous aurai présenté une pipe. C'est existentiel.

Warbler said:

Anyway, I don't know what abc said, but hate is a strong word.   All I can say is that I put people on ignore that I just can't seem to get along with.   Maybe I am at fault in all these situations, maybe I am not.  I just figure the best way to avoid the fights is to put them on ignore so I don't have to deal with them anymore.  

Reasonable, best way to leave it.

sometimes it is, but I think many times it is just done for sake of having fun at my expense.  Many times I think it is done just for the sake of trolling.   I also think it is done because some people on here like to be mean. 

Possibly all true. Like Bingo suggests, in part its because internet interaction doesn't seem really real. In some sense we're "just puppets" (see his post on page 1 to see what I was referencing) and it's easy not to take a lot of things that seriously. Even in the course of trying to be helpful on the internet, it is easy to dispense with all kinds of etiquette. We're addressing representations of people. So even the rudest comment has a superficial quality to it. It's not that people are truly insincere or rude. There is an expectation that others can take what is said with a grain of salt. But you're right that the ignore function exists for a reason. I have no use for it but my puppet has thick felt.

I wish you the best in whatever problems you have. 

Thank you, thank you :)

In re XyZ's post,

I don't know, does Warbler hate anyone? Sure, he may not like me or you or Bill, Pete, and Sam, but there is no reason he must. I agree drama is dumb but there are people who poke him with sharpened sticks like teddy bears on Endor. It does seem to be well-intentioned poking and not because people don't like him. So whatever hard feelings he has, at least those he ignores appear to wish him well. I have my own things going on, seemingly ever on the cusp of disaster. Plenty I'd hate to be judged on (especially where deserved). I might need to go the fight club route with myself. Anyhow, at least the people puppets care, Warbler :D

XyZ said:

Sorry but the thread's goal is not reached yet for Walkingdork.

It's called: "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (aka Let's be friends, warbler)...

and not: "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (aka please don't ignore me, warbler)

 

... I'm still waiting then.

 

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

If you want to ask someone about it, I'd suggest Frink.  I think knows enough about the situation.

Honestly I don't really remember.  I sometimes have no idea what Bingo is saying either, but I just don't worry about it.

 

Thing is... There's no situation. The only situation in such a virtual and superficial space is only a creation of one's mind. Hence Bingo's post about puppets was so true to me.

I don't always get Bingo's posts neither but I mostly get the wavelenght. Rare gases are pretty hard to catch, that's what makes these precious.

http://www.chemicalelements.com/groups/noblegases.html

These elements are generally considered unreactive, because they have closed-shell configurations. All the contrary of the Warb-Blur's over-reactivity.

And Bingo's posts are supposed to be confusing?

I had missed that puppet comment. Do I look like a puppet?!!

In my brain, most of you look like your avatars.

LOL, "stupid white people."

A cupcake.

I'm feeling pensive. Thinking about the purpose of sharing personal feelings in such a forum. I find it better to suppress that impulse.

I haven't been drinking, I only had a cupcake.

I'm not much for hugging in any event. Still, I don't have a problem with anyone here. Nothing to hold a grudge about anyhow. Best to keep it light.

I tried to find the ideal quote to convey my feelings to you all. Strangely, most everything Princess Leia ever said to Han seems appropriate in some way.

To many of you: "You have your moments. Not many of them, but you do have them."

To some: "I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee."

To a distinct minority: well, you know.

Darth Bizarro said:

Has anybody been following this thing about the fan's reaction to Simon Pegg voicing Dengar in the Clone Wars.

The certain point of view guy is particularly infuriating. 

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/Simon_Pegg_To_Voice_Dengar_On_TCW_143999.asp

http://boards.theforce.net/live_action_clone_wars_classics/b10467/32097661/p1/?121

http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1206

http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1209

http://acertainpointofview.net/?p=1222

This whole thing sounds pretty damn petty if you ask me.  Pegg is basically being ostracized from fandom by these ass hats just because he doesn't think the prequels are good movies. 

I've been saying for years that The Clone Wars is 10 times better than any of the prequels so I don't find it difficult to believe that Pegg might have some more respect for that show than the movies. 

It's this "true fan" elitism bull crap that really pisses me with the whole community. 

They do misuse the word "hypocrite" a lot, though that is a common mistake. The very little I've seen of the Clone Wars, they seem fun and well composed. It's too bad the PT is their bedrock. Pegg is allowed to think the PT is rubbish and still like the Clone Wars without being hypocritical.

bkev said:

"- ewww a shiny blue dildo" Immature comments like this really make me hate my generation. This guy is the prime example of why youtube comments are awful.

Yeah. He is a kid trying to be funny for an audience. Same with his everything-is-gay theme (3PO, Obi Wan). I know some of you may defend him for 3PO, but really must we try to impose sexuality on a character (let alone a droid) because he is not "manly" as some kind of slur. Totally not being defensive here, seriously... and neither is this a pro-gay thing, because well, Frink knows, jackalope. And whatever speculation there was about Alec, its just immature to insinuate it about his character. I was never that kind of 15 year old and don't excuse it.  But I get why he is doing it.

American Hominid said:

I really don't know. I suspect it has to do with the complex camera movements within shots (not possible in the OT), and perhaps even more to do with the heavy use of CGI characters and vehicles, and their flashy movements (really not possible in the OT).

I think I'll watch through the PT a little and see if that makes sense.

I do wonder though. The model which appears to be Dex's diner and the blue building on the back right are not the same as what we see on screen (which are placed different as well).

Hoth-Nudist said:

Mrebo said:

Many good points. And ultimately blame lies with he who chose which visuals to use. It's not that the battle droids (pictured below) do not have artistic merit or would not make for a cool sci-fi painting.

I am curious, how would you have envisioned the galactic senate?

"DIE, Jedi dogs. Oh... what did I say?"

Oh shit, ROTFLMAO!  Now Im crying!  too......damn........funny!

Glad you enjoyed it xD

And, Bingo, I don't blame Brad anymore. Not in the least.

What PT moments could have had (more) visual impact with minimum alteration?