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- #587417
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- Aalenfae's PREQUEL TRILOGY (Heavily delayed - computer exploded)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/587417/action/topic#587417
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Bingowings said:
Kee Oto.
.....oh.
Bingowings said:
Redubbing just manipulate the image to make the mouth movements extend to the line (the "Yeah" is rather extended so it shouldn't be too hard to make him say the line fast).
Subtitling don't worry about it, it's an alien language and one syllable could mean all that in an alien language.
One syllable could mean a sentence as specific as that? It just seems rather unlikely.
Of course, what do I know about fictional alien dialects.
A perfect romance, until he chokes the shit out of her.
Bingowings said:
JAR JAR : That was impressive.
OBI WAN : What's this?
QUI-GON : A local, let's get out of here before more droids show up.
JAR JAR : Hello, STILL HERE! So you propose to leave me on my own, unarmed in the middle of a war, you are worse than the people in the city.
QUI-GON : A city?
JAR JAR: We don't all live in the woods, you know.
QUI-GON : Can you take us there?
JAR JAR : Sorry but no.
QUI-GON : No?
JAR JAR : They don't like outsiders they will probably do terrible things to you.
QUI-GON : Do you hear that?
JAR JAR : Do I look hard of hearing?
QUI-GON : That's the sound of a thousand terrible things heading this way.
OBI-WAN: If the find us they will crush us, grind us into tiny pieces and blast us into oblivion.
JAR JAR: Well as you put it so melodramatically...
Some of those lines won't work. Jar-Jar says "yeah" how do you stretch that out to "Do I look hard of hearing?"
Trooperman said:
^^Good dialogue!
*right after Obi-Wan arrives*
Jar-Jar: See, now you owe me your life twice over.
Obi-Wan: What's this?
Qui-Gon: A local. Let's get out of here before more droids show up.
Jar-Jar: More?! More did you say?
Jar-Jar: Hey listen, I think we got off on the wrong foot. My name is Jar-Jar Binks, a proud Gungan citizen of Otho City....
Qui-Gon: A city?!
Jar-Jar: Yes sir.
Qui-Gon: Can you take us there?
Jar-Jar: Wow buddy, listen I don't know what you thought I was getting at....
Qui-Gon: No?
Jar-Jar: Listen my friend, I'm not supposed to even be talking to you right now. If they Elders found out I was conversing with humans, the repercussions would be terrible!
Qui-Gon: Do you hear that?
Jar-Jar: Yeah...
Qui-Gon: That is the sound of a thousand terrible things heading this way.
Obi-Wan: If they find us they will crush us, grind us into tiny pieces, and BLAST us into oblivion!
Jar-Jar: Ah....well, that sounds horrifying. Screw the Elders, this way friends! Hurry!
Trooperman said:
Well, the idea is that the Jedi are infiltrating the Sith system by confronting and killing Darth Maul. The existence and whereabouts of the Sith had been very hushed prior to Episode I. So, the idea is that killing Darth Maul was the main focus of the movie.
Actually, I just thought it sounded like a catchy title. Any suggestions are welcome.
Holy shit, that sounds epic. I'm interested.
Some dialogue ideas:
-*when Jar-Jar first meets Qui-Gon*
Jar-Jar: Can I get a "thank you" for saving your life, stranger?
Qui-Gon: Are you brainless?! You almost got us killed!
Jar-Jar: If you'd let me speak...
Qui-Gon: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here.
Jar-Jar: Listen, all I'm saying is that you're gonna need an experienced survivalist like me out here, if you want to continue living.
Qui-Gon: That won't be necessary.
Jar-Jar: Well good luck staying alive without my protection th-....WHAT IS THAT THING?!
Qui-Gon: Stay down!
Jar-Jar: AHHH!!!!
aalenfae said:
Ah right, now I remember The Cutter's idea.
It was just so jarring, I think.
And the reason I said things fell apart was because of how the ending is originally edited. But thinking through how I have it edited right now, her dying is actually kind of forced-feeling now.
So I'll explore The Cutter's idea, but I'm still not sure if I like it.
Dude, I adore the Cutter's ida.
Think about it. How did Padme die? Not knowing is actually better. It's a mystery we not only don't need to know, but it actually helps retain the air of mystery the prequels lacked. It leaves it up to the audience to decide.
It's like in Avatar: The Last Airbender. They never revealed how Zuko's mother died.
Has anyone considered removing Grievous COMPLETELY from Revenge of the Sith?
Just saw your "Revised" opening 3 minutes on Vimeo......man, it's getting sooo close to perfection. I'm being honest here, once you finish all the color correction and audio changes you made, it will be the best possible re-edit of the ROTS opening that I could imagine. Bravo, my friend.
How about just keeping the walk on the balcony BEFORE the flip, cut to OBi-Wan And Anakin's dialogue, and then cut to Dooku coming in at ground level. It implies he walked down the stairs without showing it.
brash_stryker said:
Editroid said:
Why bother changing Padmé's voice in Episode I to sound like how she was in Episode II, when it takes place ten years before it? The character should be 14 in this movie.
Because Padme as queen has that stupid deep monotone ADR'd voice that makes her sound even more boring than her character is already.
How was it ever explained that she has a completely different person's voice when dressed in Royal robes anyway? Did a wizard do it?
I think it's her "Christian Bale Batman Voice." She does it in her Amidala persona, so people don't suspect she's Padme.
ben_danger said:
ha well good! the dialogue itself is from a film right? it fits brilliantly.
Yes. I posted a link on the last page of the movie where the dialogue came from....a G.I. Joe movie. The voice is Cobra Commander XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3vXb37ZJMs
Just threw this together to show what Griveous might be like with the "raspy" voice.
Because I’m…speechless.
ben_danger said:
well, maybe he should have LESS dignity. he was supposed to be this big-bad in ROTS, a jedi-killer who would be a real threat to obi-wan later on. yet all that is said of him by the jedi is that he is a coward, and they just send ONE guy to fight him.
giving him a higher raspy voice, and really playing on how greasy he is could strengthen his character alot more. when he suddenly reveals that he can fight later on, it could be a bit of a 'bummer we underestimated him' moment. certain elements would need changing to achieve this, but its worth a thought.
i tried this voice change AGES ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znm5AllHbG0
That's where the Cobra Commander voice could work out really well. It's raspy and menacing, but not in the way Vader's is. And it works with the whole "Griveous is a coward." angle.
Are you altering the General's voice? I really hate his russian accent.
I always thought Griveous should kind of sound like the opposite of Vader. Instead of a deep booming voice, he should have a shrill serpent's tounge. Like this:
aalenfae said:
Here's just an idea I had. Any thoughts?
Yes. God yes. This is awesome. Amazing how such a small change makes him look soooo much more menacing.
aalenfae said:
Yeah, it might be better to cut straight to Obi-Wan radioing Oddball.
The "this is going to be easy" line kind of ruins the mood.
Actually, I like it. It adds some lighthearted fun that the Prequels lacked. And it's not like it undercuts the mood to the point where it becomes ridiculous
Erikstormtrooper said:
Trooperman said:
Erikstormtrooper, you're exploiting my soft spot. You know I don't like to leave things unfinished...."Exploiting" is a little harsh, but if that's what it takes to get things rolling...
:D
Glad to see you're thinking about this. I just think this should be out there for everyone to enjoy. It may inspire someone to do their own edit of Episode II.
Hell yeah! Zombie edit everyone! Let's resurrect this baby!
Trooperman said:
Thanks very much for watching and for commenting. The great thing about this was that it was based on feedback and help from the community. I got tremendous help from MtHaslett, Nanner Split (recorded Lama-Su), Sluggo, hairy_hen, Adywan on a couple shots...the list goes on. This was a popular project back in the day!
Well I thank you sir. You've certainly given me a lot of new ideas on how to move forward in future edits.
Honestly, well done. Though I'm curious...do you have any intention of completing it? I'd kill to see a final version.
Honestly, while there are flaws with this edit, there are just some genius ideas here. Absolute genius.
All though I'm not loving some of the music changes.
Trooperman, what you did with the Kaminoans is genius. When Llama Su said "Your army of slaves." a shiver went up my spine.
bobgarcia74 said:
Yeah Episode 1 does still need alot of love so far. Several new FX shot will be done for the film. What those are I will not be talking about for fear of it branching out far too wide. Sort of a "Well you did this, so how about this?" Which I think was doable with Episode 3. But Episode 1 was so much of a letdown to so many, that I fear the size of change requests that would come once people see some of whats planned.
To answer aalenfae. Yeah some of Jar Jar's lines are pretty chopped up. I'm currently shopping for new headphones. It sounded pretty good when I gave it a listen with a semi cheap set I have currently to work with. Once I listened to it on my Iphone speakers tho, yeah some of the cuts are harsh.
The Voice work I mentioned is still pending, based off what I feel I can get away with of the original material. I'm currently trying to keep Jar Jars voice in, cause I think a redub or captions would be twice as distracting. Smaller parts will be redone mostly by myself.
Being a Night club Dj has many pluses. One of them being two industry friends who have offered to let me use their recording studio. I will be making raw tracks and then taking them home to add the proper effects needed based on the setting. I have a very strong gift of impersination. I already have the lines I need for Episode 3 for General Grevious written. As well as the video clip montage of the parts I will need to voice act. So I can watch it while I record. Once Episode 1 Is fleshed out I will be heading to the studio to do my best to get all the voices I will need recorded. I tryed to do this at home but it comes out very home made.
To MrInsaneA. Would the line "Destroy whats left of them" fit that part better? Because the first time I worked on that clip I removed the whole holo, but the amount of time the droids spent standing there feels very wrong. And cutting the clip shorter leaves all the droids standing in very bad spots in regards to the clip before or after.
And I'm looking for a better line for Jar Jar than "This way! Hurry!" I'm sure I can find something better.
"Destroy what's left of them" works. Though I'd rather that you just re-dub them...however, I know that can be difficult.
A few other things I'm not a fan of:
-Nute Gunray's hologram popping in, saying "They must be dead by now." and then popping out. That line comes off as really random. Maybe cut out the hologram entirely, and just have the droids arriving at the door?
-Jar-Jar saying "This way! Hurry!" By the time he finishes saying it, the Jedi are far ahead of him, and obviously ignoring him.