MrBrown

Lacerated said:

MrBrown said:

When I am home in some weeks, I may check what version I have on LD. I have one jap. LD of the Movie.

 

But, what are the differences in the TV Version? Is it just a Full Screen Version? Or does it differ in other way from the DC or TC ?

 

Could you transfer the LD to DVD?

SciFi version has many scenes not in DC or TCs.

I never tried to convert a LD to DVD. I just have a normal LD Player and a USB Stick for Import. The point is that I don't have my PC near the LD Player.. they are seperated about 300 km ... :)

I bought the LD together with LDs of Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 on eBay about 2 years ago. Never wathced them, because I have some DVDs from around the world of the movie...

Maybe my Laptop could get this.

I allways thought the japanese LD is just like the normal Theatrical Cut.

The only scene I know which differs (but between Theatrical Cut and DC afaik) is "Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." instead of "I ain't that good." Okay the DC is some scenes longer.

Which Version contains the Ending with the supermarket and which with the longer sleep?

Bad thing that it's seldom that in germany we get infos on longer us Television Versions.

When I am home in some weeks, I may check what version I have on LD. I have one jap. LD of the Movie.

But, what are the differences in the TV Version? Is it just a Full Screen Version? Or does it differ in other way from the DC or TC ?

The only thing which may be a version worth prevented may the US HD-DVD Version. If Warner did some DNR to the BD which maybe wasn't done to the HD-DVD. But I don't know if thats the case...

I got the AT BD of the Argento Cut this weekend.

The english Sound is the Same as the french Disc. The bitrate from the movie is indeed much lower, than the french release. It has no subs at all. Region coding could not be checked. The master seems both the same, both features have exact same running time.

AFAIK the European Argento Cut of Dawn of the Dead still not on BD in USA. So:

The french release with forced french subs on english audio was allready mentioned. Well: Austria also got the Argento Cut. NSM released a 2 Disc BD Box with US Theatrical Cut and Argento Cut. Also there are single Disc Releases with the Argento Cut.

The Boxes are different Hardboxes with some nice artwork.

(I link to the Austrian Shop site, where I found them, because of feature listing)

Double Feature:

Argento Cut:

Cover A / B / C:

Romero Cut:

Cover A / B / C:

The Double Feature is limited to 333 pc. The Single BD Editions are each variant limited to 131 pc.

I expect the image quality to be like the US and the french BDs. But: no forced subtitles. Region Code not sure, yet. Will get my double feature next week, maybe.

According to ofdb.de the Regioncoding is B. :(

The Bonus features are the same as on the US Disc, The Dead will walk is english audio with german voice over.

The englisch audio on the Argento Cut is stated to be 5.1 DTS-HD.

No sub, neither german nor english.

Checked a bit: The French BD is BD 50 and the main movie seems to need about 29 GB on the Disc. The austrian BD is just BD25. So I expect the quality to be lower. :( I will see and try to bring a comparison online. If the Quality is noticable worse than the french, but the audio a bit better (french disc is stated to contain DTS 5.1 english audio, austrian is stated to contain DTS-HD 5.1 english audio) it could be a nice preservation project, bringing french picture, austrian english audio, and someway some english subtitles togerther...

It is stated that the Swensk BD of Hellboy (the first of the two movies) has 7.1 HD MA englisch audio. (While every other country hat 5.1 lpcm englisch audio)

The Aluminum Falcon said:

According to this, the Zombie Blu-Ray has an English language track. Unfortunately, like some French Blu-Rays, it forces French subtitles when watching in English. If that is the case, is it possible to rip the Blu-Ray video and re-mux it with the English language track but not the French subtitles?

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I own the french BD with the Argento cut.

Yes, the french subs are forced.

Yes, it is possible, and easy, to rip the Movie with english Audio, and remux it without french subs.

It's easy to get a MKV with Video, Chapters and english Audio, or even a BD structure. The Movie track with english audio is slightly bigger than a single Layer BD.

AFAIK the european BDs are all the same, no matter if france, germany or netherlands, and the 8 min Making of seems not to be on one of the discs. The new Versions just seem to contain the 23 min "Models & Skeletons" ...

The 8 Min. Making of seems just to be contained on some DVD Editions, like the FR Ultimate Edition.

I have the german 3 DVD Edition with an Making of with running time about 8 minutes.

Maybe you noticed the " in which I set the Fan. :)

Its not really a Fan cut, the merged the old two official Versions together. The didn't changed the order.. just put it together were it would "belong". Scenes missing in the US version were taken from the eurpean version and vice versa.

I think, its a cut from old VHS times, when the movie was new to home theatre marked. And neither the US nor the eurpean version was officially avaible in Germany. (Oh... the movie is still banned... so its still not officially avaible in Germany, although releases with german audio in austria exist.)

The version is released by "Laser Paradies", a not so big lable that supplied german LD, VHS and DVD marked with lots of gory movies, like Zombie, Braindead and so on.

They even brought a "director's cut" version of Army of darkness, where they didn't took the master from a normal Director's Cut version, instead took an old TC and inserted the DC scenes with english audio and german subs into the movie. But instead of the DC Ending with the too much drinked drop.. they used the european ending in the supermarked...

BTW: There is a german only languaged "Ultimate Final Cut" with a PAL running speed with about 156 minutes of Zombie - Dawn of the Dead.

Its a cut together of the US theatrical and the european cut. Its only avaible in german.. and it sucks. :) That version is like a "fan" (*cough*) cut released official to german languaged DVD marked.

Additional the DVDs of the two other Versions are not as good as the US Ultimate Edition DVDs.

Here is a direct comparison between images of the UK and the US BD. Due to some minor "corrections" on the US Version there are some not so correct image correction like in this screen. (Look at the grass between the fingers...)

Here you see that the US Disc of the Extended Cut looks better than the UK Bonus to BluRay Disc. And here you can see the differences in the Euro Cut. You may the the interlacing. :)

The Theatrical Cut of Rob Zombie's Halloween was released on BluRay in Germany. Its encoded VC-1. English and German Audio, German Subtiles only.

At the Moment its a bit hard to get. Over 22 € on Amazon.de Marketplace.

Good luck.

Edit:above price is for the limited First Press release in Metalpack.

The not limited BD editon is about 17 Euro at Amazon.de Marketplace.

MrBrown said:

 

regarding the missle deflection scene:

I think it was in he movie, but I will check next time I am at home (about 02-11-2011 until 02-13-2011) if I don't forget

The deflection scene is not in the movie. :(

Its a deleted scene...

Doctor M said:

What's the story behind them touching up the special effects on Tporter2?  Was that done for DVD because it was rushed to theaters, or is it some sort of "special editioning"?

Some of the touched up (in the french theatrical version) Special Effects seem to be "corrections" to give some more 'realistic' (as far as this is possible).

Here ( http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3108137 ) is a comparison between the french and the international Version.

The international version seems to be someway censored in action.

There are 4 official Versions of Transporter - The Mission:

- French uncensored theatrical Version (seem to have some CGI improvements)

- International theatrical Versions (shorter than the french without improved CGI)

- German Long Version ( basing on the french with better CGI, but about 5 minutes longer)

- US Version (basing on the international Version, but more censored)

I don't know if there are english languages comparison pages, sorry.

Doctor M said:

dessous?

Oh.. thoght it would be an english word... "dessous"are sexy underwear for woman... mostly showing more than hiding...

regarding the missle deflection scene:

I think it was in he movie, but I will check next time I am at home (about 02-11-2011 until 02-13-2011) if I don't forget it...

MrBrown said:

Hello folk,

 

some more ore less "news" from european and german DVD/BD market.

About the Movie Transporter 2: The Mission:

As far as I know the US Version is censored. The erotic dessous of Katie Nauta are colored blak or red. Additional one scene is stated to be cut some frames.

The German DVD so far is the normal uncensored Cinematic Version, with improved CGI, while theire are french, belgian and UK releases which are somebit longer and containing some unimproved scenes.

(The french, belgian and UK Versions are about 24 seconds longer than the german DVD release wich just kontain the normal cinematic release.)

 

And now:

On June 5th or 6th a new german DVD and BluRay Triple Box is released, containing a version of the movie already screened on television in germany with about 6 minutes more than the french uncensored Version.

 

Here is a comparison between the german normal DVD and the french version.

And here is a comparison between the french Version and the upcoming german release/TV Version.

Unfortunately both comparisons are in german.

As soon as I know if the new German triple release containing englisch audio I let you know. Poorly the new version of Transporter II is just released in the triple feature. (I preordered the BluRay Edition...)

 

 

Edit:

At the german ofdb.de the US DVDs of Transporter (1) seems to be cut in some small action moments. There some uncut releases of this movie on the european DVD Market.

The australian, the UK and the Hong Kong DVDs seems to be even cut as the US release. The french, belgian, japanese and german Editions are uncut and all containing english audio, and audio in the language of the country.

 

Edit 25th July.:

The BluRays of The Transporter triple Pack come all with English Audio and english Subtitles. According to the german ofdb.de the DVDs of the triple Feature are containing englisch Sub and Audio, too.

As said before, the german release of Transporter 2 is about 6 minutes longer than the uncensored french release. It has a running time of 94:11 Min with credits, and 87:30 Min without credits.

Additional Information:

The Transporter - The Mission extended (longer than the french Version) is avaible now as a normal edition without being in a triple pack... about 14 Euro at amazon.de...

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

Is it true that the unrated Director's Cut never made it to US DVD? Well there is a german DVD from Kinowelt containing the unrated Director's Cut. (Be careful in germany the r-rated Cinematic Cut is called 'Director's Cut' amd the unrated only is called "Special Edition"

The german BD sadly just contains the r-rated cinematic Version...

 

The japanese DVD also seems to contain the unrated Version, additionally it contains the r-rated version ... the "Scanbox" (production company) DVDs from norway, finland and danmark also seem to contain the unrated DC...

Which movie are you talking about?

Oops.. I meant "SCREAM" (From Wes Craven)... sorry. Thoght I mentioned it, but seems that I missed this,  'cause I fitst used the search function..

Is it true that the unrated Director's Cut never made it to US DVD? Well there is a german DVD from Kinowelt containing the unrated Director's Cut. (Be careful in germany the r-rated Cinematic Cut is called 'Director's Cut' amd the unrated only is called "Special Edition"

The german BD sadly just contains the r-rated cinematic Version...

The japanese DVD also seems to contain the unrated Version, additionally it contains the r-rated version ... the "Scanbox" (production company) DVDs from norway, finland and danmark also seem to contain the unrated DC...

Edit... after dark_jedi's request:

I talk about Wes Craven's "SCREAM"

The AU and the GB Disc are stated to be on DVD 5 the Dutch Disc is stated to be DVD 9... The NL Version has less subtitles than UK and AU (both the same) but the NL Disc is stated to contain some trailers.

But the ofdb.de might be wrong on this differences. I don't think the NL Version is avaible anywhere... Never saw it in Venlo in one of the stores...

The PAL UK DVD is stated do be anamorphic widescreen. Also the Dutch and the Australian Discs stated do be 1.85:1 anamorph ...

ReverendBeastly said:

Is there any way to verify that this German edition of Time Bandits on Blu-ray is actually Region B and not region free?

http://www.amazon.de/Time-Bandits-Blu-ray-John-Cleese/dp/B0045XQZIY/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1294468057&sr=1-1

On that note, does anyone have the R2 French Studio Canal DVD of Time Bandits? I can't find it on Amazon.fr, but it has an excellent set of features as details here:

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=2333#4

The german BD is Region Coded B according to the ofdb.de

accodrding to ofdb.de this is the featured stuff on the german disc. (Sorry not translated, just quoted :D )

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

The upcoming (March 2011) german DVD and BD release of the Grindhouse feature is at the moment stated to contain the Fake Trailer "Hobo with a shotgun" . If it's true this would be damn cool, because neither the US Bd nor the jap. DVD seems to feature that trailer.

 

Yea I am already looking in to getting this, along with The Crow Steelbook, also that Grindhouse is a Steelbook as well I believe.

Yes it is a Steelbook, definitely going to grab this one.

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The Steelbook for The Crow looks GREAT to.

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Also just scored the German Briefcase release of Inception, very cool set.

Yeah, its stated to be a steelbook. But I fear the ugly blue bar at the top.

I am not so a Steelbook buyer. They get scratches really fast. (I have the Steelbook for the DVD release of Leon - The Professional, and I got an ugly scratch right through the color down to the metal... ) I even have a PS3 Game Steelbook with an onprinted rating logo.

The upcoming (March 2011) german DVD and BD release of the Grindhouse feature is at the moment stated to contain the Fake Trailer "Hobo with a shotgun" . If it's true this would be damn cool, because neither the US Bd nor the jap. DVD seems to feature that trailer.

Regarding Face Off:

I won't say that this are compression artifacts. It seems to be the Filmgrain. Or could you specify the Point where you see the artifacts?

It's the only Disc that causes trouble with my PS3.

Its one of the first european PS3 releases with a 60gb HDD (now 600 gb *g*) and the software emulation for PS2 games.

My PC has an old Pioneer BD-Rom (About 2 years old), it reads every disc except the Apocalypse Now Disc. Even the red fox fails to read the disc complete. Stops after 60%, while my Windows not even possible to show how much space the disc uses.

Either the Disc is defect, or the Disc Drives are to old, getting some of the new standards/copy-protections read properly.

Maybe some further update to the red fox will fix this, so I may get the D my Popcorn Hour to Watch it on my TV.

btw:

I have the german DVD of the television cut. Do you think it will be possible to get the german audio onto the BD video stream? What should I try to do? Speeding the PAL sound down to match the video, or speed the video up to match PAL speed? I am complete new to this :)

I have it, but my PS3 and my BD-Rom seem impossible to read he first disc :( hope some further PS3 update will fix this... or maybe some new BD-Rom one day...