MrBrown

I dont' know if "Cemetary Man" (Dellamorte Dellamore) is out on blu in USA, but I think it is not.

Well, there is a german BD from '84 Entertainment with English and german audio and german subs and no bonus, and there is a Bd from italy with english and italian audio and much italian languaged bonus features.

Both Discs are region B.. and.. the German Disc hat real bad PQ.. compared to the italian BD.

IF you want to buy the movie, don't buy the german disc!

Again I have still to apologize for my out of brain day, when I assume, the german Bruce Lee Box would be egion B. I still don't know how I even thought of it. Not to mention, that I was so sure, I would have vowed an oath on this.

But back to topic:

I compared the german (european) BD of "Enter the Dragon" with the Hong Kong release:

Hon Gong release features the original Chinese written intro, DTS-HD Chinese Audio. A bit more screen. But:

The image quality is someway worse than the Warner BD:

Loosing details in darker scenes. Colors seem a bit odd. General a bit worse details...

It is just a nice to have because of the chinese intro sequence, but definitly no upgrade in quality to the european BD :(

The only thing is that the HK does not suffer from the fine jaggies , the european Bd suffering from.

Both BDs far away from being perfect...

..so for your own judgement: A comparison (the jaggies in europea, warner version, best shown in screen #07)

regarding Bruce Lee Movies:

I have to apologize!
It was my fault, that this was stated Region ABC!
I don't know what I mixed up in my mind, I am still sure I saw ABC Logo on the Box or Cover! Don't know what my mind was up to :( If I didn't just checked, if they where playable in English without subtitling, I would still believe in Region ABC :(

My PC is still saying, that he could not get any Region information.

After a note at form at blu-ray.com, I checked:

Fist of Fury german BD has a defect in the english audio: the first (exactly) 7 minutes of the english audio track are not in english, but in chinese :( I just checked into the movie after credits, so I missed it, and just listened to minutes after.

I Wrote a Message to Universum Film, if a corrected Version is planned... I will Inform you if they answer...

Regarding RZ H2: I got the Austria Limited BD with both Versions on One Disc, but I may not Tell, if quality between UK and AT differs or is the same, because I have no Version to compare... Could you check Bitrate with BDInfo, if you get it?

I never saw the movies before I got them on blu, so I never saw the cutted versions. But In the time the movies came out it was very common to cut asian movies in germany. Often it where some hits in fights. Some cuts in the Bruce Lee Movies where just ridiculus. Like at the end fight in "Way of the Dragon", where a shot of the little kitten is missing, while the two are warming up.

Don't try to understand german cutting or rating. :)

I own the german BD Box set and the Hong Kong BD Box Set, so I can assure that the image quality is exactly the same, and that all 4 in the german Box set contain english audio. (All except Game of Death have english 2.0 mono. Game of death has english 7.1 DTS-HD MA)

There is just a HD Trailer before menu starting.

The only extras are SD Trailers of the movies.

I don't know if there are english menues avaible, but if not and you have problems with the settings, just ask ;)

With the price about 35 € for 4 BDs it was not a bad deal. (Okay, I had no shipping costs due to living in Germany :D ) For me the point was having german audio, I bought the HK Box few month before it was announced in germany. Regarding quality, I think there will not be a better Version out soon, if ever. The only thing I miss are good extra features.

Edit:

now the "Game of Death" BD vs. DVD comparison ist avaible.

Edit #2:

With "With the price about 35 € for 4 BDs it was not a bad deal." I meant, I considered it a good deal. ;)

"The Big Boss" is still as cut as worldwide releases are.

"Enter the Dragon" is not in this set, because it is distributed by Warner not Universum Films. I ordered the german Warner BD also, just to check if the HK BD is different...

The four Bruce Lee movies where long time "inidziert" in Germany, no sale to persons under 18, not allowed to be put in normal Warehouses, where minors cut see, even just the boxes. The Versions where also heavenly cutted, and for the first time they are uncuted on digital media in Germany. So the big "uncut" textings are just regarding to german releases ;)

Now the uncut Versions are rated "FSK 16" in Germany.

Its quite funny, last year some old Movies which where indiziert long time are from the list and often with a lower rating than 18.

The German BDs have english Dub, but no english sub. And I would say that the BDs not look like the DVDs.

Here is a comparison between german BD and UK DVD for "The Big Boss" the upcoming comparison may be "Game of Death"

The same look have the BDs from Hong Kong and the BDs from Germany of "Game of Death", "Fist of Fury", "The Way of the Dragon" and "The Big Boss"

The Austria BD of the Argento Cut of Dawn of the Dead really looks.. bad.

(Okay the French BD looks not really good, either.) (Here is a comparison)

In Hong Kong and Germany are BDs of Bruce Lee Movies released.

Here (at caps-a-holic) is a comparison between the UK Platinum DVD and the German BD of 'Fist of Fury' (others will follow). The Hong Kong BD looks exactly the same. The HK just is region coded A  but differs in Audio and subtitling:

BDInfo says:

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
DTS-HD Master Audio             Chinese         2434 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 2434 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Chinese         1820 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 1820 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB)
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Chinese         640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital EX Audio          Thai            640 kbps        5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
Presentation Graphics           English         16,674 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Chinese         23,886 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Thai            20,995 kbps

The Griff said:

Nice replica! That's even better than The Great Sword.

That's good news on NOTLD. I don't think sharing 25GB (or more) is exactly feasible, however, or I'd be all over it. I don't s'pose you know of any screenshots of the Forgotten Films release lurking about online, do you?

But back to CONAN: unfortunately your audio track(s) can't be synced to the local Aussie version since its the same as the Euro disc, defaults to the censored UK version and uses seamless branching to do so. Looks like I'll have to get the HK release before I can enjoy your efforts in full.

I'm appalled that Fox lazily foisted that censored version upon us, even though there are (laborious) workarounds...

 

Don't know what they did on the German Bootleg DVD. The infos are quite rare.

I read on the Idea that the supermarket ending as a dream into the other ending. But never saw it.

I think my jap. LD contains the Cpt. Supermarket Version... and this seems to b.

Had no time to watch it, yet, the weekend was filled with Folkrock Music at a local festival...

Just got some pics of the packaging:

Oh, as soon as I got Conan Blurays, I would like to get the Audio Streams. But at the moment, I am still waiting, if some German BD comes along. And at the moment I am low on money to import them now. I really loved the Conan movie, and the Score is awesome.

And because of missing some real great Audio Equipment, I didn't ask for testlistenings. It would been like showing someone a HD Clip on a old monochrome TV. ;)

I am not watching NOTLD that often, even if its still great, so I am at the moment fine with the normal german BD...

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AFAIK Conan was announced as Extended Edition with about Four minutes unseen material for its US BD Release. But seems that this is obsolete…

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

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... not even talking about that their german special Edition is the normal cinematic version, just with the international Special Edition Cover...

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The part I highlighted above, are you kidding me LOL?

Unfortunaly not.

The German VHS release was cutted about 10 minutes. The first DVD release in Germany contained the uncutted Theatrical Version, but with wrong aspect ratio, and poor video quality. While worldwide the about 4 min. lionger special edition was released germany got even a "Special Edition" with better quality and correct aspect ratio, but again the normal theatrical version, not the longer extended Edition. The Cover was quite the same as the international, longer "Special Edition". It contained the Special Edition audio commentary, but cutted, so they talking about not seen scenes. Both german DVDs contain german and english DD 5.1 Audio... 

So it would be a surprise what version germany will get, if the movie comes out.. one day...

Ah okay, thanks for enlighten me.. I thought the HK release identical to the US release... and so I thought the uk version different. I am sorry for this.

At some point the whole Studio A and Studio B crap is confusing. Not forgetting dumb german release company Concorde, which not even known that there is a Conan Blu in the world... not even talking about that their german special Edition is the normal cinematic version, just with the international Special Edition Cover...

You know whats with the UK Bd of Conan?

It seems to contain a different Video Version. So it might contain another audio mix, too.

In the Scene at about 104:36, when in the US Version the Women on the Stone is telling Conan that Thulsa will come, the UK shows instead a longer scene with Conan and Subotai preparing the Battlefield and talking about winds and storms before battles...

Here is a German comparison between UK and US BD regarding the different scene with pictures:

http://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=357350

Are there other LAnguage Tracks with great audio on the Blus? In scenes without dialouges, maybe it could be possible to use allready good mixed foreign tracks?

I really like Conan, and the Score is just awsome. It is a pity if great elements are mixed out, like the choirs at the opening scene.

I don't know which LD I have, yet. In some weeks I will know more.

On DVD I own some Versions of the Movie:

- german first press DVD (without engl. audio) ~85 min PAL; US Shopping Center ending, some scenes longer than US Theatrical Cut

- german MGM DVD (german Theatrical Edition; ~85 min PAL)

- german "Director's Cut" DVD (Based on a Theatrical Edition, DC scenes are inserted very poor quality)

- US official Bootleg DVD (DC)

- US Boomstick Edition (TheatricalCut and DC)

- JP MGM DVD (longer DC .. at least with the longer blouse rip)

Its really bad, that such versions like the scifi version never see light on DVD..

Lacerated said:

Japanese LD is more like (or maybe it's exactly the same as) the International Cut, which differs from the US Cut.  It has the love making fireplace scene and the longer Sheila ripped blouse scene.  At the end, it also has the US ending tacked on after the credits.  It also has longer windmill and Ash spider walk scenes.  It's P&S and has hard subtitles.  This was the longest version available for a long time.  Eventually, Anchor Bay released a Director's Cut, that has similar but slightly shortened scenes that I mentioned above.

The US ending is the supermarket one, while the apocalypse ending is the original one.