MrBrown

If I am right, SAW 3 Director's Cut was only released on DVD in USA, and on BD as shorter Unrated Version.

France has a Region B locked BD of the Director's Cut Version with following specs:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     SAW3
Disc Size:      39.167.404.040 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 2:00:49.242 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   29.758.470.144 bytes
Total Bitrate:          32,84 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description    
-----                   -------             -----------    
VC-1 Video              24896 kbps          1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
DTS-HD Master Audio             French          2526 kbps       6.1 / 48 kHz / 2526 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2639 kbps       6.1 / 48 kHz / 2639 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS Audio                       English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit
DTS Audio                       English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit
DTS Audio                       English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
Presentation Graphics           French          0,011 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          15,180 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           French          34,510 kbps                    

The subtiotles seem not to be locked.

dark_jedi said:

Update for anyone interested in this project, yes it is done, but I really did not want to release this without a nice menu, so a HUGE thanks to my menu guy for creating one for this release, and along with this release I will also include ABC's remastered Conan The Barbarian Score CD, so if you are familiar with his work, you know it is going to sound AWESOME! great job to ABC for this and allowing me to share it with my US reconstruction BD, and as you may have already seen there is beautiful artwork already done for this release as well by Imrahil, for complete credits read post #37.

Sadly none. I think StudioCanal just gave up on that.

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

The Norsk BD of "Dawn of the Dead" (2004) arrived today, and I just checked the Scene with the topless woman, and.. long story short: It is uncensored!

The Norsk release (Finland, Norway, Dansk and Sweden) got an other Master than the censored universal master!

I will post some caps for quality check here soonm, and a BD Info scan.

Does anyone has the US BD of Dawn of the Dead 2004 for bitrate check?

Do you have an order link? and will they ship to the US, also is it region B or free?

Thanks a lot Mr Brown

 

I ordered here .. maybe they send to USA.

I don't know if region free or B. Amazon.co.uk says Region 2, my AnyDVD sys region not locked, but with region codes on BDs I am very careful, because anyDVD sometimes can't identify it.

Here are some caps:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Dawn of the Dead
Disc Size:      23.485.834.754 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
BDInfo:         0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00009.MPLS
Length:                 1:49:04 (h:m:s)
Size:                   22.423.719.936 bytes
Total Bitrate:          27,41 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description    
-----                   -------             -----------    
MPEG-4 AVC Video        22998 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2214 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 2214 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description    
-----                           --------        -------         -----------    
Presentation Graphics           Danish          16,208 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         16,748 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       15,657 kbps                    
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         15,963 kbps                    

The Norsk BD of "Dawn of the Dead" (2004) arrived today, and I just checked the Scene with the topless woman, and.. long story short: It is uncensored!

The Norsk release (Finland, Norway, Dansk and Sweden) got an other Master than the censored universal master!

I will post some caps for quality check here soonm, and a BD Info scan.

Does anyone has the US BD of Dawn of the Dead 2004 for bitrate check?

dark_jedi said:

MrBrown said:

New "Other Release as US" Report:
The norsk Bd Release of the 2004 Dawn of the Dead Release is Stated to be uncensored regarding the naked breasts Scene. I ordernd it at Amazon.co.uk and will Report, if this is true.

Please do let me know, Thanks.

I will let you know as soon as I know something for sure, seen by myself.

Amazon.co.uk stated to sent the BD today, so I expect it to arrive coming week.

Doctor M said:

Thanks, I was under the impression that the extended German version was only a TV broadcast not a disc release.

Now to track them down...

First it was only a TV Version. Later ist was on Blu and DVD only in a newly released Trilogy Box Set. But After some time it also was released as single Disc releases on Blu and DVD. So you Even get it on BD in Hd. Both extended DVD and Bd are labeled as "Director's Cut".

New "Other Release as US" Report:
The norsk Bd Release of the 2004 Dawn of the Dead Release is Stated to be uncensored regarding the naked breasts Scene. I ordernd it at Amazon.co.uk and will Report, if this is true.

Doctor M said:

I hate to call back to some older discussions, but I remember it got a bit confusing there.

What are the best versions of the Transporter films (as far as film content)?

From what I can tell:

Transporter 1 - Japan R2 for being NTSC, DTS and having the 2 extended fight scenes.  (Although a fan edit with all extended fight scenes would be better.)

Transporter 2 - France R2 for being uncut and with the improved CGI.

Transporter 3 - Any version.

Sound about right?

Transporter 1: seems to be the japanese DVD

Germany has the extended cut of Transporter 2 on DVD OFDB Info. Called "Director's Cut". Running Time in PAL: 90:24 Min while French DVD has a PAL running time of 84:30 Min.  http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1875776 Here is listed whats more in german "Director's Cut" Version.

Transporter 3: right.

Oh, yeah" Tanks alot Ridgeshark! Its great. Some german DVDs have wose quality...

I may assume, that I know have all vital Versions of this Movie. I hope one Day I get my LD Player conected to a proper recording Device to capture the japanese Cpt. Supermarket LD with burned in subtitles in Full Screen.

The Television cut is quite funny. :)

They even "censored" the "I'm bad Ash and you'r good Ash."  did they believed someone would take Ash for A**? :D

Too bad I am not at myspleen. :( would really love to add the elevision Cut to my collection of Army of Darkness versions.

boon23 said:

This version hardly contains any vampires. It is true.

The problem in Germany is, that DVD sells via internet are only open for movies maximim rated as R (16), but the R rating is hard to achieve in germany for movies with strong violence in them. It is also forbidden to advertise for x-rated movies (18). Still the movie companies do want to sell their DVDs to a large audience and that is why there is for almost every x-rated movie an r-rated edition.
Examples:
Blade 1 without blood
From DuskTil Dawn with hardly any vampires, no shot through the hand, etc
Die Hard 1, with no violence at all
Hannibal without the brain scene, without the gut scene, without the pigs... etc
Star Ship troopers without beheadings, with hardly any bugs.

and the list never ends...

and the best example for German editions:
DAWN OF THE DEAD- GERMAN 16 edition
this one features no close up zombies at all, no flesh eating and hardly any blood. Still the movie lengtgh is 141 minutes... now how did they do that?

Thats not complete true. :)

We have normal FSK ("Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft 'FSK'") ratings:

FSK 0 ("ohne Altersbeschränkung") - Without age restrictions

FSK 6 ("Freigegeben ab 6 Jahren") - Age restriction 6 and older

FSK 12 ("Freigegeben ab 12 Jahren") - Age restriction 12 and older

FSK 16 ("Freigegeben ab 16 Jahren") - Age restriction 16 and older

FSK 18 ("keine Jugendfreigabe") - not for youth (below 18 years of age)

So rated movies are allowed to be sold online on Amazon.de, but FSK 18 need age verification.

Beyond that we have such called SPIO/JK verifications, wich verificate if a movie thats not getting a FSK18 or lower, that this movie may or may not contain stuff "harmfull for youth". Sometimes movies get "indiziert" by the BPjM (Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien) so the movie is said to contain content that may be harmfull for the psychological development of youth. Such movies are just allowed to be sold in a way no onbe below 18 could get it. (ie.: "Blade" and "From Dusk till Dawn") Or they may be cutted so the cutted version gets a FSK rating. (Like FSK 16 for cutted Versions fo "Blade" and "From Dusk till Dawn") Amazon don't sell such "indizierte" movies, because they have no system that it verificate that a youth could get it. ADDITIONALLY: The advertising and keeping such "indizierte" Movies/Versions is not allowed where minors could see the advertisements. So you get such Versions normally not in Stores like "MediaMarkt", but in the seperated porn section of Videotheques. ("I am just going into the porn room for getting some horror-movies, my dear.. REALLY!") Sometimes Movies get "beschlagnahmt"  (seized), because some judge judges that the content is glorifying violence, against §131. (ie.: "Braindead"/"Dead Alive", "Dawn of the Dead" (1978), "Day of the Dead" (~1980), "City of the living Dead" ... ) Such movies are allowed to own personal, but it is forbidden to: sell, import, store for sell, export, produce for sell and so on. Such movies also may be cutted for sale (like FSK16 of "Dawn of the Dead", "Braindead")

Hardcore Porn automatically is "indiziert".

Fully nude people may even get FSK 0.

In Television there are rules like: "no rated 12 bevore 8 pm, no rated 16 before 22 pm and rated 18 before 23 pm and indizierte movies never" afaik (maybe the time is a bit different) So if a TV Station wants to broadcast a movie they have to verifiy that it is rated proper, or they cut it to get a proper rating. We have a individual rating system for television.

But real comparing the german FSK rating to the US MPAA rating is hard, because different measures. Like I said: If you see t*ts it even may get a children rating, but if you see blood, it may not even get an adult rating. :)

Maybe I am just stupid, but how do I use this script? I have never done such thing before. A hint to a how to, and which software is needed would be very kind :) I love Robocop, and I love my Criterion DVD, so I just would like to try also to resize it. How long does it approx. take to upscale on a normal PC?

SilverWook said:

The tv version is an extra on the Blu Ray.

Oh.. you are completely right. I thought it was just an alternate cut, like "normal" alternate cuts for television.

I am sure the UK BD lacks US TV censorship redubs.

I think such redubs are.. very funny.. german TV Stations just would cut such scenes, like they cut violence...

Bingowings said:

Isn't it annoying how allergic people have allergies and stuff.

Don't ask! My favourite animals are cats. I can't walk a street, seeing a cat, and ignoring it. I almost always try to get it to me, to pet it... and guess, what I am allergic to? (At least it is not very strong, but being in a room with one or more cats get me itching eyes and so on.. )

I really love the elevator music.. but coukld it be more elevator piano like?

What about that one Family Guy Star Wars elevator ?

Sadly I have no 5.1 System, yet.

But I listened to it closely, and I have to admit, that it sounds great. Only Parts I am not sure is the "It's Crazy" and the shot.

I would say, that the MAIN of "Its Crazy" is correct, but the 4 other streams are still the changed voice...

(I made a wave file with eac3to out of the ac3 so I could listen to every single stream in the file...)

Yeah, I know that there are some issues left. I have the "wrong" LotR SEE Box. (preordered it) with the replacement discs. But the problem here was that warner made a mistake just respeeding the audio track from DVD (PAL) source. the original track was made for cinema, running 24 fps, so dubbed in correct speed.

The 4% peed won't been noticed in audio, if the companies would did the speeddown right... in normal movies the speedup is not really noticable, if you are not knowing the movie in correct speed perfectly.

The NTSC thing with ~29 FPS is more noticable, when the moie seems o "jump" sometimes, because of the inserted frames to get it from ~24fps to ~29 fps...

As someone living in Germany, born German.. (no, I have no tendencies to conquer the world.. thats an austria thing, when they are politicians somewhere else.. :) ) ..raised german languaged, no english roots, I surely know that most things are dubbed. (Not all indeed, I have some german DVDs with no german audio, but just subtitled.)

But for now: back to topic :) other PAL/NTSC/HD discussions in seperate thread, or PM. :)

Amazon.co.uk don't sent this movie to germany any more. I am glad I got the BD, but after they figured out a release is banned from Germany they stop shipping it, and I ordered the BD before they got the hint.

When I wrote "speed up" I meant "speed down" :) just a bit mixed up here.

We could be lucky that with HD the PAL speed up is almost a matter of history, at least a fading part of ancient Video times...

The bad thing on that arrow DVD may be that it is stated to be PAL. So you would have to speed the buggy scenes up. And if you want to use one audio stream completly, you have to speed the complete audio up propper, and sync it to the BD video.

I just checked the Day of the Dead german languaged bootled BD. I seems to contain the anchor bay audio stream with all censorship. The official Austra BD just contain 2.0 audio.

I just checked the Arrow BD. Some of the defects are corrected here:

- "Shit" still "shit, not "Right"

- "Oh Jesus" by Sarah is correct.

- "Jesus" by Steel is correct

Still Bad:

- "It's Crazy"

- Gunshot

- "It's the spic"

As its stated for the US BD: The mono track is not affected.

I just wrote Arrow Film an eMail, asking if there any further BD releases planned with complete corrected Audio.

The Griff said:

Check this out, MrBrown:

http://fanedit.org/406/

Some guy did the same thing using the Ultimate Edition DVDs.

Regarding a "Dawn of the Dead" extreme extended Cut:

there is a german languaged DVD containing a PAL 155 minute cut. This is, afaik a "we put every piece of the Romero and the Argento Cuts togerther in one cut" released on DVD. There are differences in PQ, AQ and Score while the movie. I remember that there also "score jumps" in some scenes. It is called "Ultimate Final Cut"...