This has probably already been posted, but I feel like this alternate ending may be of some use to people like me who were unsatisfied with what we got: đ
haha! Thatâs awesome. Will Mando get the dark saberâŚ?
What movie did they use for Benâs head nodding? If someone passed me that shot, I could do the test, with Jedi robes
Could you use the footage of Ben smiling after the kiss?
Thatâs a really interesting idea. I canât think if Kylo ever saying the word âWayfinderâ?
Iâm still trying to figure out a way of making the KoR actually do something. Youâre right! They really need to be in that scene somewhere, I donât have the skill to do that atm but that would add a lot to this scene also.
Isnât it raining in that TFA? I wouldnât if that can with with a day colour editâŚ
Iâve just uploaded a breakdown of my Mustafar scene and Iâve tried to give everyone a shout out as I think so many people did a fantastic job brainstorming and working on these extra scenes. I hope I got everyoneâs names linked to the right clips.
I was already happy with the scene from the original movie but you guys really added another level to it so I had to include some. Still upset I couldnât fit Vaders castle somewhere but I will keep trying.
Thanks a lot! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Kyo7bqMgg
Hereâs a test of the ending, with pretty much everything except for a ghost for Ben.
Unfortunately the music used comes in right on the heel of a bombastic conclusion to the Resistance theme, so itâs a shame it canât be a bit more teasing and gradual as it comes in like the original sceneâs music.
Itâs still synced to the original, so itâs be easy to ditch in favor of the original.
Thatâs a beautiful ending. Really nice scene. Are you moving Leiaâs death scene at all?
An analysis of how The Rise of skywalker was filmed and stylistically shot.
https://youtu.be/6t1eZR2vdq8I find some of things here to be useful to keep in mind when editing.
Thatâs a great breakdown video.
Iâm not sure if youâve noticed but most of those shots have had the words âthis way!â Replaced with âFollow Me!â No idea why but it gets frustrating when you count them.
If you remove the first Stormtroopers death (out of place shot anyway) and replace it with the balloon whoop it makes for a smoother transition to Poe
I liked the exhale, it was a fun Ben trait. I just wish it was positioned somewhere. Fact is that his last line in the movie is âouchâ, so I figured âletâs keep as much Ben characterization as possibleâ.
Donât even get me started on that âOuch!â. Iâm thinking of replacing it from one of his grunts from TFA. Ouch just seemed out of place after the huge Whisper crash and being stabbed without a word.
Hey everyone.
I just discovered this thread and stuff I saw here is amazing. I figured Iâd share this small change I made to the Kylo vs Knights fight (I started reading here at page 82, so if someoneâs already done it, sorry in advance đ )
I never understood why they put that close-up shot of Kylo lowering himself, it just froze the action and made it look like he was waiting.
Iâve actually cut that a little heavier and taken out Benâs exhale. It sticks with the action a lot more without that pause.
If they had used yellow lightning to give a visual cue for the force healing (like a force defibrillator đ), there would be some logic to visually depict the differences.
I like this idea đ
Wow! this escalated quickly!
I canât wait to see some of these changes. I like the idea of Reyâs yellow lightning. Interested to see how the Ewoks appear early. Iâm working on the extra D-0 squeaky wheel scene so if I get it done before you Iâll share it.
Can anyone tell me why so many people are getting banned lately?
Hal, Does this mean your rough cut is almost finished? Canât wait!
Sorry!!!
How on earth can you apologies for creating such an epic scene? No need for it mate. Youâre clearly a perfectionist.
My point is that the movie feels like itâs rushing through itself enough as it is. I donât think that making it go FASTER is the way to resolve the pacing issues.
shorter isnât the same as faster. The movie as it stands feels like itâs rushing because itâs constantly stopping to address a bunch of unnecessary shit all the time
Streamlining the narrative might make it shorter, but also might make it way more coherent, focused, and intentional, as opposed to jumbled, scattered, and distracted by every âHEY COOL IDEA THIS IS A COOL IDEA LETS PUT IT IN NO MATTER WHATâ moment it can think of.
Iâm mainly advocating that runtime shouldnât be a target anyoneâs aiming at. Let it be the length that it is when the best version of it seems to have been arrived at - and you canât really get a feel for what that is until you try a bunch of ideas out and see how they flow in the larger context.
If you stop yourself from making cuts for not much more reason than âWell now itâs too shortâ (as if âtoo shortâ really means anything in a context where there arenât tickets being sold or timeslots being filled) I donât know if thatâs a good enough reason in and of itself.
100% Agree! I thought cutting so much would speed the movie up even more but when you remove the copious amount sof back and forth scenes and allow the audence to stay in the moment longer, despite the movie being shorter it feels a lot slower. Iâm now a little worried that Iâve made some scenes a little too longâŚ
Perfect example is Reyâs training scene. By removing Kylos flashback and staying with Rey it seems like youâre in that scene a nice length of time.
My only other concern is that I have yet to see proof that the reveal of Chewie being alive can be delayed with only rearrangement, no deletion.
I removed it completely at first but then found a really nice place for Chewies return just after Rey senses him on Kylos ship. That was we find out just after Rey and itâs a nice flowing reveal, IMO
I did play around with removing ochi, Lando and the dagger up until Rey is in Kylos quarters but you have to remove so much if the movie that I felt it was too short. Without extra deleted scenes itâs tricky to remove that awful macguffin without losing a large chunk of the film.
Yeah, I agree with you there. Itâs tough to split TLJ into the other films too because the arcs are so tightly paralleled too. If only there were more substance in Abramsâ films to flesh out.
Exactly! I think on average Iâve removed 26 minutes of footage from each of the movies but most were replaced with deleted scenes.
I actually removed 28 minutes from Solo but the end result was still exactly the sane run time.
TROS is 22 minutes less but with extra scratch built scenes itâs now running around 12 minutes shorter.
I think if I removed everything I wasnât 100% happy with it would be around an hour less. đ
I did play around with removing ochi, Lando and the dagger up until Rey is in Kylos quarters but you have to remove so much if the movie that I felt it was too short. Without extra deleted scenes itâs tricky to remove that awful macguffin without losing a large chunk of the film.
Just spitballing for how to convey C-3PO regaining his prequel memories without then also implying that heâs lost his OT and ST ones:
Keep the scene mostly as is (comedy smash cut and all) but on the âHave you heard? I am going withâŚâ line, have 3PO âglitchâ and quickly cycle through a few of his significant previous ownerâs names before landing back normally on âMistress Rey on her very first missionâ.
Or at least a structure somewhat similar to this⌠the main idea being that 3POâs ownership history database is updating itself in real-time during this moment.The additional audio could be tweaked to sound somewhere in-between the warbled âmemory restoration completeâ line and the earlier deep voiced sith translation. Perhaps even wildly fluctuating in speed and pitch with some subtle distortion etc?
It would also act as a partial callback to 3POâs mistrust of R2âs âfamously unreliableâ memory banks, as we can infer from the glitching that the data hasnât been properly looked after by R2 over the years and has thus become slightly corrupted, possibly requiring some further tweaking later on off-screen?
Not sure how feasible this idea would actually be in practice though, there might not be enough time to squeeze anything else in if the line(s) were to stay mostly intact⌠But with all of the talent on this website, thought I would at least throw over my (possibly silly) idea!
Okay - thatâs all from me. Back to lurking and being in awe of you edit wizards!
*Mic drop idea, NICE!
Hal 9000 said:
Whatâs the source of the dialogue? Sounds familiar but I canât place it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvrCBRxkB8U
Havenât checked, might be.
Thatâs a really great idea and an awesome use of resources. Perfect clip for that dialogue. I love fanediting specifically for this kind of stuff đ
I decided I wanted to put my mental C-3PO inventory to some more good use, so I spent a few minutes screwing around with the scene where 3PO gets his memory back.
THIS IS ROUGH, I havenât done anything with pruning the audio yet, this is just raw lines used:
I really didnât like the joke about R2 âputting something in his headâ as well as the smash cut mid-sentence, so I changed it.
I hope Snooker gets a chance to see my âmistress Reyâ line replacement since she was the one who gave me the idea!
Nice job! DO you think restoring 3POâs memory as far back as Padme is a little too much time lost though?
To be fair, everyoneâs always been an asshole to 3PO. âShut him up or shut him down!â I do think itâs a little awkward how mild this line reading is compared to Poeâs reaction though. Youâd expect 3PO to be more hysterical.
I dunno what it is about TROS, I just feel really sorry for 3PO. Everyone seemed really extra nasty to him this episode. 100% didnât earn the âOne last look⌠at my friends!â line. Itâs so being cut. đ
After 3PO says âOne last look⌠at my friends!â it would be cool to have a short montage of Luke, Han and Leia from the Original Trilogy. This would make is appear 3PO is accessing his memory banks of Luke, Han and Leia instead.
Thereâs actually a parody of that somewhere. I canât remember who did it. Maybe HISHE. Youâre right though.
Iâve butchered that entire scene but it works once you remove the friendâs line and the repeated dialogue that Poe says in the previous scene. No idea why this is repeated, so removing Poe saying it first gives 3POâs delivery more gravitas.
So, Poe saying âAre you already their 3PO?â and then 3PO delivers the ââŚall this timeâ *dramatic pause
Also, Poe clearly has concussion because he keeps forgetting why they when to see Babu i.e 3PO will have complete memory loss. I think itâs repeated 3 times, WHY? Itâs like JJ this Star Wars audience have the attention span of a 3 year old and constantly needs to be reminded of the plot. *eyesroll
To be fair, everyoneâs always been an asshole to 3PO. âShut him up or shut him down!â I do think itâs a little awkward how mild this line reading is compared to Poeâs reaction though. Youâd expect 3PO to be more hysterical.
I dunno what it is about TROS, I just feel really sorry for 3PO. Everyone seemed really extra nasty to him this episode. 100% didnât earn the âOne last look⌠at my friends!â line. Itâs so being cut. đ
I havenât read anything recent on this thread, but hereâs a clip of a replaced 3PO line with some help from Chase. The audio used wasnât clean but I think it blends into this context reasonably well.
Thatâs a really nice job, mate. I wish there was a way for turning Poe from being an A$$hole in TROS. Itâs like 3PO did something we donât know about.
What the ever loving fuck is variances?
No idea what you think youâre doing on here but I feel a banning coming your way soon. Well done!
This is the approach I was taking for my mix. Iâve only included two âFor Skywalkerâ clips in English, and two in made-up alien languages. The first one is great, but do you think the second is too comical?
This is excellent! Is it in stereo or 5.1? Think it would sound awesome if different voices come in from left and right.
Iâll work on the Knights of Ren clips for you as soon as I get some time.
I just wanted to try saving my own LUT, I did it but it didnât but it didnât show me where the file is saved to. There wasnât a root file option so itâs saved somewhere but I just cabt find where.
Your LUT worked perfectly.