Movies Remastered

Broom Kid said:

omnimuffin said:

My point is that the movie feels like it’s rushing through itself enough as it is. I don’t think that making it go FASTER is the way to resolve the pacing issues.

shorter isn’t the same as faster. The movie as it stands feels like it’s rushing because it’s constantly stopping to address a bunch of unnecessary shit all the time

Streamlining the narrative might make it shorter, but also might make it way more coherent, focused, and intentional, as opposed to jumbled, scattered, and distracted by every “HEY COOL IDEA THIS IS A COOL IDEA LETS PUT IT IN NO MATTER WHAT” moment it can think of.

I’m mainly advocating that runtime shouldn’t be a target anyone’s aiming at. Let it be the length that it is when the best version of it seems to have been arrived at - and you can’t really get a feel for what that is until you try a bunch of ideas out and see how they flow in the larger context.

If you stop yourself from making cuts for not much more reason than “Well now it’s too short” (as if “too short” really means anything in a context where there aren’t tickets being sold or timeslots being filled) I don’t know if that’s a good enough reason in and of itself.

100% Agree! I thought cutting so much would speed the movie up even more but when you remove the copious amount sof back and forth scenes and allow the audence to stay in the moment longer, despite the movie being shorter it feels a lot slower. I’m now a little worried that I’ve made some scenes a little too long…

Perfect example is Rey’s training scene. By removing Kylos flashback and staying with Rey it seems like you’re in that scene a nice length of time.

Chase Adams said:

My only other concern is that I have yet to see proof that the reveal of Chewie being alive can be delayed with only rearrangement, no deletion.

I removed it completely at first but then found a really nice place for Chewies return just after Rey senses him on Kylos ship. That was we find out just after Rey and it’s a nice flowing reveal, IMO

JakeRyan17 said:

Movies Remastered said:

I did play around with removing ochi, Lando and the dagger up until Rey is in Kylos quarters but you have to remove so much if the movie that I felt it was too short. Without extra deleted scenes it’s tricky to remove that awful macguffin without losing a large chunk of the film.

Yeah, I agree with you there. It’s tough to split TLJ into the other films too because the arcs are so tightly paralleled too. If only there were more substance in Abrams’ films to flesh out.

Exactly! I think on average I’ve removed 26 minutes of footage from each of the movies but most were replaced with deleted scenes.

I actually removed 28 minutes from Solo but the end result was still exactly the sane run time.

TROS is 22 minutes less but with extra scratch built scenes it’s now running around 12 minutes shorter.

I think if I removed everything I wasn’t 100% happy with it would be around an hour less. 😕

I did play around with removing ochi, Lando and the dagger up until Rey is in Kylos quarters but you have to remove so much if the movie that I felt it was too short. Without extra deleted scenes it’s tricky to remove that awful macguffin without losing a large chunk of the film.

LesPaul32 said:

Just spitballing for how to convey C-3PO regaining his prequel memories without then also implying that he’s lost his OT and ST ones:

Keep the scene mostly as is (comedy smash cut and all) but on the “Have you heard? I am going with…” line, have 3PO ‘glitch’ and quickly cycle through a few of his significant previous owner’s names before landing back normally on “Mistress Rey on her very first mission”.
Or at least a structure somewhat similar to this… the main idea being that 3PO’s ownership history database is updating itself in real-time during this moment.

The additional audio could be tweaked to sound somewhere in-between the warbled “memory restoration complete” line and the earlier deep voiced sith translation. Perhaps even wildly fluctuating in speed and pitch with some subtle distortion etc?

It would also act as a partial callback to 3PO’s mistrust of R2’s “famously unreliable” memory banks, as we can infer from the glitching that the data hasn’t been properly looked after by R2 over the years and has thus become slightly corrupted, possibly requiring some further tweaking later on off-screen?

Not sure how feasible this idea would actually be in practice though, there might not be enough time to squeeze anything else in if the line(s) were to stay mostly intact… But with all of the talent on this website, thought I would at least throw over my (possibly silly) idea!

Okay - that’s all from me. Back to lurking and being in awe of you edit wizards!

*Mic drop idea, NICE!

Chase Adams said:

Hal 9000 said:
What’s the source of the dialogue? Sounds familiar but I can’t place it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvrCBRxkB8U

Haven’t checked, might be.

That’s a really great idea and an awesome use of resources. Perfect clip for that dialogue. I love fanediting specifically for this kind of stuff 😄

Chase Adams said:

I decided I wanted to put my mental C-3PO inventory to some more good use, so I spent a few minutes screwing around with the scene where 3PO gets his memory back.

THIS IS ROUGH, I haven’t done anything with pruning the audio yet, this is just raw lines used:

https://streamable.com/o5rynb

I really didn’t like the joke about R2 “putting something in his head” as well as the smash cut mid-sentence, so I changed it.

I hope Snooker gets a chance to see my “mistress Rey” line replacement since she was the one who gave me the idea!

Nice job! DO you think restoring 3PO’s memory as far back as Padme is a little too much time lost though?

stevepaynter said:

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Octorox said:

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Hal 9000 said:

To be fair, everyone’s always been an asshole to 3PO. “Shut him up or shut him down!” I do think it’s a little awkward how mild this line reading is compared to Poe’s reaction though. You’d expect 3PO to be more hysterical.

I dunno what it is about TROS, I just feel really sorry for 3PO. Everyone seemed really extra nasty to him this episode. 100% didn’t earn the “One last look… at my friends!” line. It’s so being cut. 😃

After 3PO says “One last look… at my friends!” it would be cool to have a short montage of Luke, Han and Leia from the Original Trilogy. This would make is appear 3PO is accessing his memory banks of Luke, Han and Leia instead.

There’s actually a parody of that somewhere. I can’t remember who did it. Maybe HISHE. You’re right though.

I’ve butchered that entire scene but it works once you remove the friend’s line and the repeated dialogue that Poe says in the previous scene. No idea why this is repeated, so removing Poe saying it first gives 3PO’s delivery more gravitas.

So, Poe saying “Are you already their 3PO?” and then 3PO delivers the “…all this time” *dramatic pause

Also, Poe clearly has concussion because he keeps forgetting why they when to see Babu i.e 3PO will have complete memory loss. I think it’s repeated 3 times, WHY? It’s like JJ this Star Wars audience have the attention span of a 3 year old and constantly needs to be reminded of the plot. *eyesroll

Octorox said:

Movies Remastered said:

Hal 9000 said:

To be fair, everyone’s always been an asshole to 3PO. “Shut him up or shut him down!” I do think it’s a little awkward how mild this line reading is compared to Poe’s reaction though. You’d expect 3PO to be more hysterical.

I dunno what it is about TROS, I just feel really sorry for 3PO. Everyone seemed really extra nasty to him this episode. 100% didn’t earn the “One last look… at my friends!” line. It’s so being cut. 😃

Hal 9000 said:

I haven’t read anything recent on this thread, but here’s a clip of a replaced 3PO line with some help from Chase. The audio used wasn’t clean but I think it blends into this context reasonably well.

https://vimeo.com/423368795

That’s a really nice job, mate. I wish there was a way for turning Poe from being an A$$hole in TROS. It’s like 3PO did something we don’t know about.

LordFishBowlington said:

What the ever loving fuck is variances?

No idea what you think you’re doing on here but I feel a banning coming your way soon. Well done!

axlanian said:

This is the approach I was taking for my mix. I’ve only included two “For Skywalker” clips in English, and two in made-up alien languages. The first one is great, but do you think the second is too comical?

https://vimeo.com/423025361

This is excellent! Is it in stereo or 5.1? Think it would sound awesome if different voices come in from left and right.

I’ll work on the Knights of Ren clips for you as soon as I get some time.

skenera said:

I just wanted to try saving my own LUT, I did it but it didn’t but it didn’t show me where the file is saved to. There wasn’t a root file option so it’s saved somewhere but I just cabt find where.

Your LUT worked perfectly.

skenera said:

Premiere Pro project: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kpCb0OBmHD1Swy0KUiO3XvdX_R3kY5Wc

It looks so good! Thank you so much for teaching me this, and thanks for doing an excellent job on the colours. It really pops now.

I did try to save other settings but I’m not sure where the file is stored? My Mac doesn’t seem to index my hard drives any more.

skenera said:

I’ve linked the two LUTs in my first comment and in my previous comment, is it not working?
Maybe you can copy and paste it: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Tz0Vf3U8mUXmUwByhhz4l3q4oS66CBUZ
Premiere Pro project: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kpCb0OBmHD1Swy0KUiO3XvdX_R3kY5Wc
If you open it, you’ll see a Missing media window, you can “Locate” the video file (I’ve used the video you’ve uploaded on Vimeo) or “Offline All”, you just need the Adjustment Layer clips anyway.

You’re amazing! Thank you so much for this. Much appreciated

Paden said:

Ouch! Works a little too well as a comedy 😦

Thankfully they’ve highlighted almost every point we’re all trying to fix. 😃

Not sure if anyone has seen the ending of this video but the Kylo force ghost and removed old lady is pretty impressive. https://youtu.be/cW-mx3xUHT0

axlanian said:

Movies Remastered said:

I’ve got another English friend who’s done some impression work before. He said he’ll help if you need it.

I’d love to have both of you! Would you mind letting me know which lines you thought worked best?

From the video or added suggestions? Just let me know abd we can do a bunch of them for you.

I’ve got another English friend who’s done some impression work before. He said he’ll help if you need it.

skenera said:

I’ve created two LUTs, the first one is for the shots where Luke is visible from the front, and the second one is for the sunset. After extracting the zip archive, you should be able to load them in the Lumetri Color Effect.
If you’re interested, I also have the Premiere Pro project where you can tweak the color adjustments individually.

That’s awesome. Can you send the zip to moviesremasteredinfo@gmail.com please?

Not sure how the project work for importing?

axlanian said:

idir_hh said:

I have feeling the knights would be better suited with a British accent…

If anyone with an accent wants to submit their voice, I’ll happily put it through the effects chain! But which lines do you think we should go with?

Whos voice are you using? I’ll try the British accent if you need one.

skenera said:

I really like some of those pre-settings. When you mean browse, do you mean to make my own LUT or is there other settings in a Premiere Pro folder somewhere?

Really helpful info. Much appreciated.

skenera said:

You can store all the color adjustments in a Look-Up Table, it simply contains the original colors and the new colors.
It can be used with the Lumetri Color Effect in two ways:

• In the Basic Correction tab, select the Input LUT dropdown menu, click on Browse… and select the LUT
• In the Creative tab, select the Look dropdown menu, click on Browse… and select the LUT

The original Luke shot gets brighter over time, it’s noticeable if you compare the first shot to the beginning of the second shot, or the beginning of the second shot to its end.

I think that’s what I did. I’m not 100% sure as I played around with so many settings but that seems right. I’ll take another look.

I’m wondering if that colour changes as the sun is rising in the original footage. I did notice a few things after I uploaded that video. Think I’ve got the final moon part sorted but I’ll have to check it out with fresh eyes tomorrow. Thanks for your help.

skenera said:

I’ve also noticed brightness differences between the Luke shots, here is how I would reduce them: after the LUT is applied, add a Levels effect for the first and the second shot, set the gamma to 90 for the first shot and make a transition from 110 to 95 for the second shot.

I wasn’t sure what LUT was? Is it another program or an effect?

Not sure what the shots seem different, they’re the same shot. I’ve been playing the the last 2 shots with “the moon” and I think I’ve improved them slightly after splitting them with different colour effects. Still tricky being colourblind though.

axlanian said:

Hal 9000 said:

Just as a show of what I can do, I’m currently working on giving the Knights of Ren voices, here’s my first attempt at recreating their vocal sound based off the grunts when Ben kills them. (Once we’ve pinned down the lines we want, we’ll need three other voices to join mine for this project if anyone’s interested!)

https://vimeo.com/421382173
Password: fanedit

That’s a lot of fun. Great work!