That’s actually a really great idea. I think someone took a run at it before?
What story can be hinted at within 24 frames though? It’s hard to create Luke disappearing or light sabers etc. A gorilla walker would be easy but it’s tricky for it to be clear enough it’s Luke.
I watched every tutorial on youtube to see how thry did Kylo’s effect but no one seemed to get the particles right. I’ve gone again the grain and tried something new. It’s now got energy and fire elements to it so it shows complete unpredictability and instability.
I’m glad it’s getting good feedback. These FX’s are a nightmare to do and take forever!!
And MR, that saber clip is gorgeous. Beautiful introduction to it!
Cool, I’ll redo the Cave scene when I get some free time, see if the new FX suit darker lighting… 🤞
I’ve actually never really analysed it that much. I just feel…
TLJ
Leia "we’re trapped and need help! Anybody? Somebody? Remember we saved the galaxy before?
Nobody “…”
Luke steps up and sacrifices himself against a handful of gorilla walkers and kylo.
3 kids talk about his epic fight on Canto bite
TROS (No mention of Luke or his legacy)
Palpatines is back and has thousands of star destroyers with planet killing weapons!
Everyone “for Skywalker!”
Doesn’t that mean it took Luke to for for everyone to get involved? Seems a little harsh.
Yeah, that’s kinda the idea but the particle settings are none, agressive or out of control. I’ve had to drop some down to 0.01 but even on parts where she’s climbing the tree, if really had to mask a lot of it out.
Did you notice the amazing effect Disney did at 0:28? Hadn’t noticed that until now. It looks really cool.
Crackling Saber update. https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1412710/action/topic#1412710
Crackling Saber update. https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1412710/action/topic#1412710
I’ve taken everyone’s feedback into consideration and tried the most aggressive crackling effect that I could without it looking way too fanedity.
Let me know your thoughts https://youtu.be/KeP-UjY3FwM
It’d be great if someone could tinker with the Sith statue behind Kylo Ren to make it look like Darth Nihilus or Revan.
Gave it a shot:
Mind you, this is a first attempt.
That’s pretty awesome. It really adds to the creepiness and is a good easter egg.
I know we have shots of Star Destroyers blowing up after the Exegol battle (both from the theatrical version locates and some fanedit extras), but are there, or did anyone do shots of those ships arriving at those locations? I swear I thought someone did but I can’t find them anywhere. Am I imagining that?
I’ve done a few shots so far. I’ve got 4 seconds of footage to still finish with 2 other planet ideas but I can’t find or settle on which they should be. The final 2 shots will be star destroyers arriving out of hyperspace but I’ve had a lot of complaints from people saying I’ve used the wrong ships. If anyone knows of any better footage of Palps fleet then please let me know…
In my mind, Han showing up is simply the visual representation of Ben’s inner monologue - he’s not actually there. The scene is just for the purpose of filming something visually. “Leia channeling the Force into a medal that Han wore for 45 seconds one time 30 years ago, in order to project a conscious, sentient image of her dead husband to their son, who is halfway across the galaxy, several hours after her own death (because Finn and Poe have managed to fix the busted, crashed Falcon, leave Endor, and get all the way back to the Resistance before we see Kylo again)”…yeah, I don’t buy it.
If you wanted a visual metaphor for Han, why not use the dice? You know, the dice that were used throughout the previous movie to represent Han?
Did you see my video explaining this exact situation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueu_fV8lbac
You’re completely on my wavelength
Is it me or does that statues face change 3 times anyway? That would be an easy add I think.
It’s a shame Ben disappears before the light change. I think the ghost effect changes in every movie?
I’ve played around with that cut but I much prefer the order I’ve edited the scenes. I’m gonna have to let Rey’s hand continuety go and focus on the colour scheme.
So, what if the ghosts fade in from red to purple but at full opacity they’re blue?
Deleted scenes would be a game changer! More Mustafar 🤞
Yeah, I did think of how it would explain the logic but I feel it’ll be a subtle introduction to Ben’s healing powers, and the scene to come. Kylo had no reason to fix Vaders helmet because it was a reminder of his battle and cremation.
I’m going with “ultimate power” red lightning following the line “look what you have made…” Palpatine never had the ability to use red lightning before but now he’s drawn power from the dyad it’s made him even more powerful. I also feel we need to give Palpatine something different, something that takes 2 sabers, 4 force ghosts and Rey to defeat. We’ve already seen Palpatine beaten with the powers he possessed in ESB for I feel these changes gives everything more gravitas.
And take your time, MR. I’ll be ready whenever you are able to get it.
Thanks Hal, our lockdown ends at the end of June so I’m trying to get everything finished before then…
and in my version Ben fixes the crystal after it’s teleported.
Does this mean you aren’t planning on working on the effects after that point in the movie?
As I said “Happy to experiment with other ideas”
It’ll be easy to finish what others want at that point but Luka has finished all the layer scenes. I’m just redoing his work by adding particles etc. The first confrontation between Rey & Kylo visually annoys me as Rey’s Saber changes length during the fight as they’ve just masked the shorter prop in post without adjusting the length. I’ll be redoing those clips and making the Saber just skim Kylos face etc.
I’m currently working on a bunch of scenes with other editors so the crackling saber effect has taken a back seat. I’m am working on a few faulty Saber effects to include during the battle and in my version Ben fixes the crystal after it’s teleported. I’m happy to experiment with other ideas too.
One thing I have noticed (perfectionist) is that the new particle layer takes away the crackling effect in the training scene so I wanna get that sharp before moving on.
Palpatines red lightning scenes are looking epic, btw.
That’s interesting. I’ll go research ESB and see.
While colourgrading last night I did notice a stupid continuety issue within the original. When Rey grabs Leias Saber her hand is facing backwards, the following shot it’s facing down and in the following shot her wrist is facing Palpatine. SO, To try and break these shots up, I may be about to tweak is so the ghosts arrive after Palps stops the lightning, thus eliminating this dilemma… maybe! 🤞
Yeah, it would be the first time seeing a force ghost in that type of environment so it’s weird to see and understand how they would act under that lighting. I’ve messaged Jon to see if that’s possible. It would be a great help.
I made this tutorial explaining why/how I’m giving Leia a better send off and allowing Han to have more impact. https://youtu.be/ueu_fV8lbac
This is an image from when Palp has red lightning. Question is, should the Saber reflection be purple, and should the force ghosts still be blue or would the redness of their sky drown out the colour?
I would say the reflection should be a mix of red and purple. As for the ghosts, I guess that depends on how you think the light works on Force Ghosts… I would say they should be grayish because that’s what a translucent blue object would probably look like under a red sky, but the Force Ghosts in the original seem to be light sources of their own, so they should be blue, but that might look unnatural… so maybe a pale blue?
These are the challenges I’m coming up against. I don’t think anywhere in other movies do we see force ghosts under anything other than natural light? Part of me says they should pop and be blue but another says that should be translucent and therefore red. The Saber colour is easy but without the original force ghost layers, it’s gonna be a lot of work changing their colour. I may try and message Jonh to see if he still has them.
This is an image from when Palp has red lightning. Question is, should the Saber reflection be purple, and should the force ghosts still be blue or would the redness of their sky drown out the colour?
Well, that esculated quickly!
Just had a disturbing thought: Do you think Maz Kanata was dying during TROS? She sure seemed rigid, like rigor mortis was setting in.
I think “that’s a story for another time…”