Thanks, it was the first time I’ve had to change the timing within the sequence. It’s not very precise but I’m sure there’s a more visual way of doing it somehow.
Yeah, I’m hoping Nev catches my PM at some point.
MR, do you think you could apply the slowdown to a clip I can send that has Nev’s color correction?
(There would be no hurry.)
I’ve PM Nev to do one small colour change in that clip. Once that’s done I’ll overlay it to this whole scene.
Awesome! Cheers guys. I’ve just posted a direct link on The Last Hope thread. FYI, I’m running out of space on my drive so it won’t be there forever.
It seems to be going down pretty well so here is a direct googledrive link to stop any pixelation from Youtube https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BK-GG8PBCY81AbtzlEBcbNpcaswzlrfB/view?usp=sharing
I use a guy called Ian-Luke Chenet. He’s pretty awesome. He made this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRbbvsxXaBs
I may have been looking at this for far too many hours but I’m not happy with the timing change on Rey’s close-up. I’ve had to slow parts down to almost 50% just to get the sequence timing right.
I’m open to scrutiny on this one…?
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1417302/action/topic#1417302
Poppa, I did exactly as you instructed but the audio was still playing in the left speaker despite being in a dedicated center channel. It works fine with left or right setting but it won’t isolate to the center channel for some reason?
ThisIsCreation the new EQ track seems to have the gain turned up to 11. I’m getting a lot of hissing from that clip when I import it to PP so I wasn’t able to match the current dialogue levels with your effort.
Here’s an update anyway…
Changed the timing of the sequence so it’s a little tighter.
Removed Lukes Close-up
Changed the timing on Rey’s close-up to match the new dialogue.
I’ve played it over and over again and as much as I REALLY wanted to keep the close up on Luke as he says “but this is your fight” I’m gonna ditch it on my next pass and just change the timing on Rey’s close up. That way I can tighten up the audio and seamlessly go into her standing up as if the say “I don’t have the way finder” as her last excuse to be negative. Luke gives her one more reassuring smile and says “You have everything you need”. The emotion seems perfect running it that way.
I’ll see if I can do another pass tomorrow…
Is Nev finished with the colour correction of this scene or is someone else picking up the gauntlet?
Yeah, I was just focusing on the audio for that clip. I ran out of time to properly sync the visual. I’ll take another run at it when I get time.
Nice! I’ve not used that before. When I back up and running would you like to take a look at a few other audio clips for me?
The line was in stereo so I had to export it to audition and convert it to mono for it to sound right. If anyone knows how to do this within premiere please let me know.
I agree with ThisIsCreation. Great job, MR! I think the line and pacing feels right, but the cutting back and forth to Luke is a bit abrupt. The second cut to Luke feels like it’s clearly the same camera move as the first. Can you hold on Rey instead of cutting back for “This is your fight”? I think it’s better to see Rey for this line, anyway, so we can see he thinking it over.
I’ll reply to this here as I know Hal isn’t entertaining thing edition.
I totally agree. I obsess over little things like this but I ran out of time today. I really wanted to keep on Luke as he says “This is your fight” but we’d have to stay on Rey too long if I removed it and her expression doesn’t change to suit the dialogue. I think there is a tweak to be had in this clip though. I’ll take another stab at it when I can.
Thanks man. What program/technic did you use?
Awesome! Cheers dude, I’ll give it a try. 👍🏼
I don’t have my headphone unpacked but if you think you can make it sound better go right ahead.
Jar Jar, I already made a mini track, cheers.
Jarbear, Exactly! Rather than holding the audience hand and explaining every step of the way, we actually get an “Oh Yeah!” Moment when Rey uses Leias Saber this way.
You guys made me unpack my computer for THIS!!! haha.
The line was in stereo so I had to export it to audition and convert it to mono for it to sound right. If anyone knows how to do this within premiere please let me know. Also, have to do the same with “This is your fight” and denoise the soundtrack to clean it up.
I still wanna tweak the shot timings but I think this works well. https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1417183/action/topic#1417183
I didn’t like the line “You’ll take both Sabers to Exagol” so I’ve made it a little more personal to Rey’s quest, and setting up the moment all the force ghosts are with her for the final battle.
I never really understood force ghosts. The line “strike me down and I will be more powerful…” doesn’t really become anything. Force ghosts don’t really do much other than mentor. Yoda is the only one who interacts with the real world by burning the tree. Luke can’t even remove Leia’s Saber from the wall.
I feel the “this is your fight” is a line to give Rey a realisation that she’s the only one with enough power in the real world “the last jedi” to take on Palpatine. I’ve reused this line just as the force ghosts appear later to show this is Rey’s fight but they have her back when it comes to her having the strength to force push the final lightning blow, I’ve also rearranged the ghost scene so Luke sticks around to protect Rey from the blast after Palp dies.
Awwwww! I wish I had my computers. Basically, I think it would work by taking out the “you’ll take both Saber to Exagol” and replace it with “We’ll always be with you”. Then move the “but this is your fight” after that line. It’ll take some work shifting the clip arrangement but that’ll work in many ways.
I agree. There’s a lot of really awkward exposition in that scene after the flashback. It’s why I liked Nevs “You have everything you need…” cut.
This movie is the worst at treating the audience like idiots and constantly giving the “incase you’re not following this simple storyline here’s a reminder” dialogue.
I do wish a lot of these ideas where suggested in the general thread. There seems to be a nice amount of younger, less experienced editors offering ideas these days and I’m willing to encourage their growth to help their skills/edits rather than just shutting down an idea that isn’t suitable for this cut.
I’ve learnt my best lessons through failure or flushing out the smallest of ideas to see where they go.
Thanks for the motivation/idea MR.
Have you ever wondered why Rey acts all confused in the ending scene when the ghosts start to appear? Well wonder no longer! She was hearing voices in her head.
After all, family is the thing that is always there for you (or at least it’s supposed to be).
Other than being too loud, I really like that. It makes more sense and I got goosebumps. 👍🏼
I feel the timing is a little rushed and unnatural. Have you tried slowing down the track very slightly, use optical frame and keeping the same pitch for the music?
I’ve done that a few times thought this movie and it’s almost impossible to notice. It may give this line a little more breathing space.
EDIT: How about using it as we see Luke & Leia’s force ghosts just before Rey smiles?
He’s amazing! Nice guy to.
This is how I’ve managed to get around that line: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b7m-2Zr8B_0USRM27MO1xQSdNxbFtgiV/view?usp=sharing
Really nice job, it’s very similar to what I did bit I removed any reference that Kylo doesn’t know where she is. she’s holding the dragged, he should know exactly where she is after seeing that.
End Saber Sparks are finished. I’m just tweaking the sound.
T minus 5 is also finished.
Crackling Saber is on hold as the effect in the cave scene took so much time to get right but I think I’ve sorted it but I’m currently moving studios so I’ve had to pack up all my computer stuff. I should be back on things by next week but I still have my phone to check here in the meantime.
No rush at all, man. Will continue to look forward to the awesome stuff.
The last ‘T minus 5’ clip I recall seeing had the angle of the starlines sort of janky given the angle of the shot. Has there been a revision since then? And at any rate to be certain, would you mind sending me the most recent (unless there was only ever the one version anyway)?
I remasked the windows as they had roundish edges but the falcom has square and slightly blurred them to match the focus of the shot. I thought the stars looked right but many said othetwise. I can change it to which ever direction you feel is right for your edit.
I don’t have access to my drives atm but once I’m set up I’ll upload them to my gdrive for you.