Dayo said:
Haha, that was intentional. There is only static when it shows the 2004 shots.
I think this was an unnecessary effect, and I actually find it so loud to be slightly annoying.
Otherwise, good video, well done.
I doubt that Zion would have the time to add more shots to his site.
I see you found that this forum does not like wayback machine links! The actual images used in that comparison page are hosted in a photobucket account.
I'm thinking I probably should revive my old screenshot comparison page and update it to enable users to compare the various Custom DVDs that are now available.
I've managed to retrieve the page from various sources (it was hosted on the now defunct Geocities, and I never made a proper backup). Any suggestions for a free web host to use now?
Good, but I was hearing an awful crackle/static on the audio - I assume it's not my speakers?
[Video frames from the versions listed below can be compared here.]
December 2007 - The Lucasfilm Pwnage Edition - Moth3r
Availability: SW only
Size: 4.37GB (SL)
Video processing:
anti-aliasing, luma curve adjustment, colour saturation increase and hue tweak (towards yellow), light grain filtering and sharpening (all in AviSynth)
Audio Options:
'93 remix (from LD PCM)
'77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
'77 Dolby Stereo mix (from LD analogue cap)
Extras: static menus with audio
Wiki page: LINK
Forum thread: LINK
July/September (V1/V2) 2009 - Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical (GOUT sourced) - dark_jedi
Availablity: SW, TESB and RoTJ
Size: 6.43GB, 6.57GB & 6.90 GB (all DL)
Video processing:
used an earlier version of g-force's AviSynth script, see below. V2 has layer breaks at different chapters, different positioning for the Greedo and Jabba subtitles in SW and RoTJ, and the implementation of a fix for the jerkiness in TESB's "magic tree" scene.
Audio options:
'93 remix (from LD PCM)
'93 remix (from LD PCM) upmixed to 5.1
'77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration) on SW disc
Extras: none
Wiki page: n/a
Forum thread: LINK
September 2009 - GOUT image stabilized - g-force
Availability: SW only
Size: 4.37GB (SL)
Video processing:
Aliasing removal, stabilization (gate weave removal), black level & gamma adjustment, increased colour saturation, colour hue tweaked towards yellow, grain filtering and sharpening (all in AviSynth)
Audio options:
'93 remix (from GOUT DVD)
Extras: none
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum thread: LINK
May 2010 - Star Wars 1977 Theatrical Release - EditDroid
Availability: SW only
Size: 6.73GB (DL)
Video processing:
Overall luma curve adjustment, local contrast adjustments by spatial frequency bands (to smooth grain & sharpen detail), colour saturation decrease (all in Photoshop)
Audio options:
5.1 mix, based on the 2004 DVD, patched with portions of a 4.0 upmix of the '93 mix
'77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
Extras: full-motion intro & menus, technical description of video/audio work
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK
December 2010 - The Rebellion Collection - MattmanOmega
Availability: SW, TESB, and RoTJ, plus supplements discs
Sizes:
SW - 7.44GB
SW Supplement - 3.72GB
TESB - 7.16GB
TESB Supplement - 3.97GB
RoTJ - 7.91GB
RoTJ Supplement - 3.53GB
Bonus Disc - 4.11GB
Video Processing:
In AviSynth - Noise reduction, aliasing removal, some gate weave reduction, and 16x9 upscaling.
In VirtualDub - Hue and saturation adjustment, black and white levels adjustment, mild additional noise reduction.
In Sony Vegas - stabilizing of opening "Lucasfilm" and "A long time ago" cards, plus addition of '81 SW opening for chapter-branching function.
Audio Options:
SW
'93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
'93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
'77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)
'77 Dolby stereo mix (from '85 CAV full screen LD)
TESB
'93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
'93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
'80 Dolby stereo mix (from '85 CAV full screen LD)
RoTJ
'93 remix (from "Definitive" and "Faces" LDs)
'93 5.1 upmix (using V.I. Stereo To 5.1 Converter)
'83 Dolby stereo mix (from '86 CLV full screen LD)
Extras: Full motion disc intros, DVD credits on each disc, both '77 and '81 versions of SW via chapter-branching function, one DVD of supplements for each film, plus an added bonus disc.
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK
February 2011 - GOUT V3/MBE - dark_jedi
Availability: SW, TESB and RoTJ
Size: all DL
Video processing:
Used latest version of g-force's stabilization script, with additional colour adjustments
Audio options:
SW
'77 70mm 6-track reconstruction (from hairy_hen's audio project)
'77 Dolby Stereo mix*
'77 mono mix (from Belbucus restoration)*
'85 home video remix*
'93 home video remix*
TESB
"Purist" 5.1 mix (from hairy_hen's audio project)
'80 Dolby Stereo mix*
'93 home video remix*
RoTJ
"Purist" 5.1 mix (from hairy_hen's audio project)
'83 Dolby Stereo mix*
'93 home video remix*
* not included on the MBE versions, which use a higher bitrate for the video encoding
Extras: static menus with audio
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK
Original Trilogy Replica Technicolor Project - LeeThorogood
Availability: SW only (other 2 planned)
Size: DL
Video processing:
Based on g-force's AviSynth script, additional color adjustments have been made using Apple Color in an attempt to replicate reference photographs from a screening of a Technicolor "dye transfer" Star Wars print. More info here: http://savestarwars.com/technicoloribscreening.html
Audio options:
Belbucus' Theatrical Audio Track encoded as Dolby Surround/Pro Logic at 448kbps
French audio track from NTSC GOUT DVD (unmodified)
Spanish audio track from NTSC GOUT DVD (Unmodified)
Extras: unknown
Wiki Page: n/a
Forum Thread: LINK
My uncle used to find Mr Bean offensive, because he thought it was making fun of people with learning difficulties.
What a twat.
Stay off the drugs.
I'm going to be boring, and quote Wikipedia:
At the beginning of episode two onwards, Mr. Bean falls from the sky in a beam of light, accompanied by a choir singing Ecce homo qui est faba ("Behold the man who is a bean "). These opening sequences were initially in black and white in episodes 2 and 3, and were intended by the producers to show his status as an "ordinary man cast into the spotlight". However, later episodes showed Mr. Bean dropping from the night sky in a deserted London street, against the backdrop of St. Paul's Cathedral suggesting Bean is an alien. Atkinson himself has acknowledged that Bean "has a slightly alien aspect to him"; in the animated series, he was actually shown to be an alien.
If I was drinking blue milk right now, it would have shot out of my nose.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-obtain-fan-edits/topic/9935
The first thing you would need to do is ensure that both sources are exactly the same running time - you may need to trim frames from one of the sources to get them both to line up frame-for-frame.
You would then need to upscale the laserdisc source in such as way so that the picture information in each frame aligns with your HD source to the nearest pixel. You may also need to tweak the contrast, brightness and colour to get the sources to match as best as you can.
The next step is then to overlay the LD video over the top of the subtitles. The simplest way would be to use a constant rectangle over the region of the subtitles, but this may end up distracting due to the quality difference in the videos, and if there is any significant telecine wobble in either of the two it will probably look awful.
A better result can be obtained by using third video that contains a mask for the subtitles. It may be possible to create the mask automatically if the subtitles are easily distinguishable from the video, for example if they are bright white and the rest of the video is darker, but in all probability you will have to create your mask video manually - and this means a lot of work if the subtitles appear all the time!
The advantage of using a mask is that only those parts of the LD video that lie directly over the subtitles will end up being overlayed on your HD source, so it's potentially less distracting. You could also feather the edge of the mask to blend the two sources together and avoid any hard edges.
The above process is based on my experiences with AviSynth, but there may well be a much neater workflow with a pro editor like FCP, After Effects, Vegas etc.
I read somewhere that the script originally had Biff "fading away" after returning to 2015. This was scrapped, as they thought that the audience may wonder why the car didn't fade away as well.
This plot hole has always bugged me, and affected my enjoyment of BTTF 2. I guess I must have an autistic streak.
Another bit of bad science I've just remembered is in "Lord of the Flies", something I actually commented on in my English lesson back when we read the book at school. If Piggy was short-sighted, his glasses would have concave lenses, and thus been useless for creating fire. William Golding, You Fail Physics Forever.
Yeah it's spam, but at least it's on-topic. I know Jay is not too keen on people who abuse his resources to promote their own forums, but I don't see that this little operation on a free forum host is any threat.
I'll leave this thread intact for you guys to have fun with.
zombie84 said:
Okay, so I think I have this figured out. It IS the GOUT.
Can I suggest then that you edit your first post to remove the misinformation (or "bobbins", as DE put it) from your friend about it being a LD capture in 720p, etc.
zombie84 said:
He said it was done by a professional editor, who restored the film himself from the LD using professional-grade tools.
This is what your friend said. Not very specific at all.
The DVD video was created using the 1993 non-anamorphic LaserDisc version...
This is the text from the disc itself. Note it say "laserdisc version" and not just "laserdisc". I take this to mean it is sourced from the GOUT DVD.
Darth Editous said:
zombie84 said:
Also, the GOUT has way more aliasing on R2's red glowy thing.
I think that's just been blurred away by the upscale.
DE
I think the "aliasing" you are seeing there is actually a product of a YV12 - RGB colourspace conversion with no chroma upsampling.
From closer examination of the screenshots, I believe this is actually another GOUT-sourced Custom DVD, and not a laserdisc capture at all.
hairy_hen said:
I guess this is probably an H.264 encode on a dvd disc, so a Bluray player would be required.
No, I think (from the screenshots) it's an anamorphic DVD. Maybe it was downscaled from a 720p source that was a laserdisc capture upscaled for processing.
On the plus side, this sounds like a great project - I love to hear about new advances in getting the best out of LD captures.
Unfortunately the technical details are... well, confusing. 720p is not anamorphic, a DVD cannot be 720p, etc.
I look forward to checking it out.
This is the sort of question that the Fan Project Wiki was designed to answer; however, due to the current lack of participation with adding/updating details on the wiki, you would be better off checking out Russ' old GTF site.
TV's Frink said:
doubleofive said:
I have no excuse.
Although this won't replace my "contructive" sig, it is definitely sig-worthy.
I noticed the other day that your sig corrupts the forum table slightly on IE8. FireFox is OK, however. Can you take a look?
The guide above is applicable to both NTSC and PAL DVDs. Which part of it are you having trouble with?
zeppelinrox said:
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I also included the DVD-ROM folder that was only found on the SL NTSC version.
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The original PAL version - according to the specs on the wiki - does include the DVD-ROM folder.
Guys, I'm gonna have to insist that you follow the forum rules, in particular this one:
1. No discussions about financial transactions except for the buying, selling, or trading of official retail media.
What you do with your own money off the forum is your business, but we do not condone the buying and selling of bootlegs and I don't want to see that kind of discussion here. Thanks.