Molly

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Post: #308560
Topic: Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308560/action/topic#308560
Time: 29-Jan-2008 10:55 PM

I could try to cut them together?

This movie means a lot to *me* too.

Post: #308500
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308500/action/topic#308500
Time: 29-Jan-2008 3:23 PM

Sources claim that the "Mary Poppins" DVD releases are double-matted... making the AR correct but all four sides cropped.

I'll have to look into that.

Post: #308374
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308374/action/topic#308374
Time: 28-Jan-2008 1:56 PM

At least this thing is working as a CD player - don't have anything to test it with as a LD player yet, but it's all hooked up.

I might ask my primary DVD supplier for rips of Aladdin so I can check them for paintovers, reanimations, etc. - he sent me Arabian Nights as a proof of concept, it's OAR (slightly pillarboxed).

Post: #308313
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308313/action/topic#308313
Time: 28-Jan-2008 3:07 AM

1.66:1

Also, all the CAPS movies, at least as far as Lion King, are OAR 1.66:1. Almost all the movies prior to Little Mermaid (what AR is Great Mouse Detective, btw?) are 4:3 (Sleeping Beauty and Black Cauldron which are 2.35:1 are exceptions).

Post: #308279
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308279/action/topic#308279
Time: 27-Jan-2008 8:14 PM

It's the 1999 DVD that has the original... the non-anamorphic one. I think all that got cut was the "kneecap" (you can see the shot in question earlier in the thread).

Post: #308246
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308246/action/topic#308246
Time: 27-Jan-2008 3:54 PM

Two more movies I'm planning to put in the mainline project:

Saludos Amigos (1942)
Melody Time (1948)

Both of these movies were edited for DVD release in the US to remove cigarettes.

Post: #308194
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308194/action/topic#308194
Time: 26-Jan-2008 5:52 PM

Good kitty... take off and go

Clear as day once I amplified it a bit.

Post: #308131
Topic: Info: Can't find a dvd? HP will make it for you!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308131/action/topic#308131
Time: 25-Jan-2008 9:30 PM

I just wish Disney'd quit with their damn Vault and keep all their videos in print even through something like this. :/

Post: #308012
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308012/action/topic#308012
Time: 24-Jan-2008 2:58 PM

Not sure, but even one change is one too many for me.

I believe both of them, however, were significantly reanimated during musical numbers, to "enhance" them for the IMAX experience (only BatB actually made it there). Certainly some stuff in Lion King was reanimated.

Post: #307954
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307954/action/topic#307954
Time: 24-Jan-2008 4:10 AM

Ah... There are TWO R1 DVD releases of Little Mermaid. The old one was vaulted and I think the new one may be vaulted too.

The first DVD is the OTV. My desire for preservation is limited in scope here - I'm just keeping the original DVD from vanishing into the ether. (Nothing else; I'll leave my discussion of it at that, unless someone finds something wrong with THAT version.) It is the second, remastered DVD which is censored.

Post: #307952
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307952/action/topic#307952
Time: 24-Jan-2008 4:07 AM

it seems EVERY rip of Song of the South out there is a 25->29.97 telecine. >_<

Anyway, for Aladdin, the video is not the same, (think Star Wars - some of the video was reanimated), so it's going to be a direct rip. (My working AVI is almost entirely VHS-based. The offending line is restored from CD; I don't even have access to the DVD right now, and the DVD goes OOP on the 31st anyway). Pretty sure ADM's edit is the same as mine in scope, just based on the DVD instead of the VHS.

Post: #307906
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307906/action/topic#307906
Time: 23-Jan-2008 8:34 PM

And this is a 1993-issue VHS, so it should be unaltered except for "cut off your ear"

Post: #307844
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307844/action/topic#307844
Time: 23-Jan-2008 2:39 PM

To Arnie.d:

The VHS has "Good kitty, take off. Down, kitty." (From what I've read the DVD removes the first 4 words)

This extract is from the VHS captions which I resynched after cutting off the previews. Line 831 is the line in question.

829
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:43,308
GIVE ME A CHANCE.
DOWN, KITTY.
JUST LEAVE ME ALONE !

830
00:55:43,376 --> 00:55:47,078
SO HOW'S OUR
LITTLE BEAU DOING ?
[ Cuts Throat ]

831
00:55:47,146 --> 00:55:49,714
GOOD KITTY.
TAKE OFF.
[ Rajah Growling ]

832
00:55:49,782 --> 00:55:52,384
- DOWN, KITTY,
- WAIT ! WAIT !

833
00:55:52,451 --> 00:55:54,886
DO I... KNOW YOU ?

To charliesheen:

I'm trying to find out what, if anything, was altered in other movies, so I can roll everything back to the original form.

Now, you mention the BBC ... I'm in the US, I can't get the normal BBC, but if the BBC were to air Song of the South, it would be a great opportunity. Provided, of course, they don't tilt-scan it for 16:9!

The best source, supposedly, is a laserdisc edition released in Hong Kong. Supposedly it's not hardsubbed at all, and is already NTSC.

The ultimate goal is simple. I want the OTVs, and I want them on plain DVDs, (DVD5/DVD9 I don't care, but I do prefer NTSC) and my intention is to get to that point. I'm not above getting my source material from vaulted DVDs, if the newer versions are altered (The Little Mermaid), or if the normal R1 version is altered and some other country has the original footage (Mendinso's claim about Lilo and Stitch), I see no problem importing my footage.

Post: #307740
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307740/action/topic#307740
Time: 23-Jan-2008 6:04 AM

Wow.

Just wow.

This is screwed up. Wikipedia claims that the DVD of Beauty and the Beast removes a censoring of a couple frames from the VHS/LD versions but apparently, the DVD doesn't have a true OTV option?

I might have to cross-edit the scene together in avidemux or something. :/

Anyway, anyone interested in a "working" AVI of Aladdin (VHS rip, 4:3, but with the original "cut off your ear" line restored from CD) ? It's 731 MB, 640x464, XviD. I'll prolly go the DVD route later... when laser exists, VHS isn't really a good jumping-off point.

Post: #307652
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307652/action/topic#307652
Time: 22-Jan-2008 5:30 PM

These weren't after all "children's movies", they were "family movies", and only recently have they become seen as movies "just for kids" and edited accordingly.

That they saw any need or any reason to cut stuff willy-nilly out of their films irks me. I want to see the movies the way they were released - only for some movies have I gotten that opportunity.

Post: #307634
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307634/action/topic#307634
Time: 22-Jan-2008 4:15 PM

Am I right?

*runs*

Post: #307628
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307628/action/topic#307628
Time: 22-Jan-2008 3:01 PM

Anything's better than a VCR, lol, and at $56 with shipping, I felt it was worth it.

As for outputs - I've read around these parts that most of these decks have better output on composite than S-Video. (My settop accepts both.)

Right now, I'm mostly concerned with having ANY preservation. Having the best... I can wait for more money.

Post: #307615
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307615/action/topic#307615
Time: 22-Jan-2008 12:51 PM

Haven't actually gotten it yet. Pioneer CLD-M301

Post: #307465
Topic: H.264/AVC/MPEG-4
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307465/action/topic#307465
Time: 21-Jan-2008 7:15 PM

MPEG-4 Part 2 (divx/xvid), rather than Part 10 (H.264)

Post: #307454
Topic: H.264/AVC/MPEG-4
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307454/action/topic#307454
Time: 21-Jan-2008 6:01 PM

I use H264 on occasion but mainly for low-bitrate stuff. I use regular MPEG-4 for just about everything else.

Post: #307421
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307421/action/topic#307421
Time: 21-Jan-2008 3:33 PM

Originally posted by: Jay
I have Aladdin and Lion King on LD, but no way to rip them for you.

If you want them, I'll send them to you.

If that's OK, I just won the LD player auction "I" was bidding on, so if the offer's still good I'll take you up on it

Post: #307412
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307412/action/topic#307412
Time: 21-Jan-2008 3:02 PM

Got a test version of Aladdin. The VHS rip works pretty well for synching up the CD to, I made an AVI for a test which I might put up for the time being.

I'm this close to (well, drf's this close, I'm paying him after the fact) winning this laserdisc player, back to you in about half an hour xD?

Post: #307281
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307281/action/topic#307281
Time: 20-Jan-2008 11:15 PM

Friend found a cheap Pioneer LD player on evilBay and he and I are trying to snipe it. Got my fingers crossed.

Post: #307242
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307242/action/topic#307242
Time: 20-Jan-2008 4:38 PM

Definitely going with the LD player approach. I'll prolly do what Dr. Ebbetts does with the Beatles vinyl rips, rip 'em as I can, then as I can improve them, rerelease until I get it perfect.

For VHS, drf's rip doesn't look half-bad, so it's a good start, even though it's prolly P&S.

Post: #307219
Topic: The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/307219/action/topic#307219
Time: 20-Jan-2008 2:45 PM

Hm. Maybe... Though I'd have to get an LD player first, and that'll take some time.

But considering how important it is to preserve these films AS THEY WERE... I really should start looking into LD players, so that as soon as I can afford to go hunting on eBay for one (prolly March, April, unless I can't find one for less than a couple Benjis), I can get one, and then I might take you up on that offer.

Like drfsupercenter who's sourcing these VHSes for me from his own collection, I have a settop DVD recorder, which is what I use for my video capture - isn't the best, but it's not too bad. I can always touch stuff up on the PC afterward.