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#428671
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The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
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Bridging did the job.  I threw together a disc of Cinderella using the 1995 video and 2005 "restored mono" audio, chapter cuts based on the 1995 LD (except dropping chapter 2 and moving chapter 3 back a bit).  This one will be going up on torrent soon (prolly TPB to back up my tracker as I'm trying to relocate which means no Internet for a while) - I estimate 24 hours.

I've seen 4 variants of Cinderella, video-wise:

1. The 1987 master (which adds a full Blue Castle at the beginning, a short one at the end, and cuts out the RKO logo, fading in during the "Walt Disney Presents" card).

2. Another master has the RKO logo plastered with a generic 60s Buena Vista logo.  I seem to recall it has the Blue Castle at the beginning only.  (Saw it on a PAL VCD, and I seem to remember the WDMC VHS from 1995 having it, but see 4 below.)

3. The 2005 DVD (which was "restored" by Lowry and has end credits for this "restoration"), like the 1987 master, plasters the RKO logo with a Blue Castle, but like the VCD master, leaves the original music intact under the new logo.

4. The 1995 laserdiscs - at least the WDMC CLV one I have, prolly the CAV one also.  The original logos are left intact, although full Blue Castles bookend the video.

I used the 1995 remaster as the video base, complete with the bookend (an original test dropped the bookend and somehow it looked more "proper" with it, even if unauthentic).  The audio track presented here is, however, from the 2005 remaster.  (I didn't use the OTHER English track on the 2005 remaster, as I've heard nothing but bad things about the DEHT remixes.)

The menus are very rough, which is typical of my projects.  I used a template for the chapter menus (adding title cards afterward), then fixed a glitch in the template (the back/forward arrows on these menus pointed the wrong way).  For the main menu I used a quick gimpjob, and it shows, rather painfully. :/  Or maybe I just see my own faults much worse than everyone else?

Video - 7500 kbps, 23.976 fps (Avidemux 2-pass)
Audio - 128 kbps (basically unmodified from R1; some slight padding about 0.3 sec in one scene) ac3 mono.  FFMPEG used to encode the Disney logo audio.

Using old Disney bumpers along with a "share but do not sell" screen is kind-of an in-reference for us (me and drf).  The bumper at the beginning is the same as on the Winnie the Pooh DVD I released recently.  The unusual "Metal Diamond" logo also appears prior to the start of the movie (taken from a different Cinderella LD, the 1988 edition).  The opening bumper makes it clear that this is not an official release.

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#428009
Topic
The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Time

I'm starting to familiarize myself with DVD Lab Pro and am currently all right with making menus for 4:3 features, but since my bumpers are 4:3 it makes it a bit trickier to deal with 16:9 features.  (I can't seem to set aside a title to be 4:3, and then have it connect to the main menu.)  This will come into play for a handful of widescreen films, some of which have shoddy restoration work on DVD, and some of which are not OTV on DVD.

An alternative is that I could modify the WDHV86 bumper I use into widescreen.

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#427467
Topic
The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
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The most obvious things:

* Aspect ratio is a slightly more open 1.66:1 instead of 1.85:1
* Title card is different (it's larger on the DVD).  "Silver Screen Partners IV" credit is also missing from the DVD.
* The stuttering beast is corrected on the DVD (was present in all versions prior to the IMAX re-edit).

I think there's some effect differences also.

Basically, the "OTV" on the DVD is the IMAX cut, re-edited to resemble the OTV - it's not the OTV.  Neither is the WIP version on the DVD the same as the laserdisc version.

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#427463
Topic
The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
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Just tested my chops on a DVD of the Winnie the Pooh shorts.  This crosses the line into custom territory, and the encode is low bitrate - let me explain.

1. Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree - laserdisc rip (IVTC'd; bumper added)
2. Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day - R1 rip (IVTC'd)
3. Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too - laserdisc rip (IVTC'd; bumper added)
4. Winnie the Pooh and a Day for Eeyore - R1 rip (untouched)

I standardized the encode on the format of the fourth short - 3 Mbps/192 kbps, prograssive.  That isn't a lot - the DVD's only a little over half full.  If you want *high quality*, at the cost of integrity of the first three shorts (the fourth is exactly the same as presented here), you'll need to get the Many Adventures DVD.  The first three shorts' quality is nothing to write home about even before re-encoding them, though!  Lots of film noise.

Keep in mind that I'm not good at authoring DVDs.  The background image is taken from the opening titles, and the font is the same one used in the opening titles of Many Adventures (1977) and Day for Eeyore.  I do think I managed to get a Play All option working, though, as well as a Play One option.

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#424419
Topic
The Vaultbreakers Collection - Disney Preservations
Time

I'll upload direct LD rips of Beauty and the Beast, untouched, off my settop, dunno what's the best way to get it out (I'll prolly torrent them from my friend's dedi or something, it's the easiest way to deal with such big files).

I'll warn you guys that this is going to be 8 DVDISOs about 2.5 GB each taken from my settop, unfiltered (4 for the OTV, 4 for the WIP).

If anyone can master these I'll toss in a couple things to sweeten it up (a Walt Disney Classics logo and a better-looking FBI warning).  Everything but the FBI warning will need to be IVTC'd to look good, especially if the footage is upscaled slightly for anamorphic.  The title font on all posters and packaging is a variant of Linotype Times; Times New Roman will probably work as well.

ETA: I'm going to also give it one last shot myself, although the only authoring software I've still got here working is dvdauthor (I can use a front end or something but they're prone to weird behavior).

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#423543
Topic
Fantasia Hybrid Edition (* unfinished project *)
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EyeShotFirst said:

I grew up with this film. I remember my dad had a copy he kept on the top shelf (the shelf of movies we couldn't touch). On several occasions, he would get it down, and we were able to enjoy it for all it's magic. All in all, it introduced me to music outside of Mozart. One thing bothered me, the sound. I realized it was old, so I was fine with it, until I did research on it a few years back, and came to the realization that Disney didn't do a good job taking care of this wonderful music.

I then looked everywhere to see if I could find a remastered soundtrack. They all sounded awful. Then by chance, I found a CD released in 1982 that consisted of re-recorded music. I thought, well that is cool, until I found out that it was actually re-recorded to the exact timing of Stokowski's version. I was in awe by it, so I did more research and found that a version of the movie with that sound was released. BUT, it edited out the introductions.

So, this may seem like a travesty to purists, but I am going to work on a Fan Edit of Fantasia using several different versions mixed to the latest release.

The reason I am using different versions is because they re-recorded Deems Taylor's lines with somebody who sounds like a friggin robot on the Latest release.

Corey Burton, iirc.

I wonder if somehow the "lost" Deems Taylor introductions not on the 1991 remaster actually survived, despite Disney not having it.  (The 1991 version, iirc, went back to the original 1941 orchestration.)

I have the 1991 remaster on laserdisc, but it has two problems - the centaur scene is zoomed, and some of the narration is removed.