Critical responses on RT take mediocre and above and translate them all into “fresh”. User reviews clearly count for nothing despite them publicly saying that there was no evidence of interference (how they would ever catch anyone is unclear).
I thought it was one of the elusive escape pods mentioned in the first film.
I was always confused about how there is more than one on board… where exactly? Books over the years have never been consistent. I can’t picture what the interior of the Falcon was like in that TLJ scene.
dwsiddall said:
Luke was drinking “hot chocolate”. I put the book down and never picked it up again. No. This is a different universe. They don’t have chocolate. Even if they had something that was exactly like chocolate, they wouldn’t call it chocolate. Any earth references completely ruin the story.
But what if it was blue chocolate?
It’s honestly hard to recapture the old feelings I have towards things like KOTOR, Dark Forces 2 and the TIE Fighter series. It’s been so long and unlike movies I can dip into any time they don’t age the same way. It’s that kind of stuff which fits the bill in my memory, but I haven’t touched it all for years.
One of the issues I have with the new movies is the constant over-explanation of everything. Star Wars has never been subtle, but did we really need to see people with monocles and tuxedos on understand that these were rich people?
TLJ was a movie-equivalent of a Thomas Kinkade painting.
It’s an exclusive casino. What are they supposed to wear? Even Vegas has places they won’t let you in without a suit.
You never see anybody in street clothes in a casino in a 007 movie. 😉
Space Nazis wear overtly fascistic garb but space oil tycoons have to be subtle? Hm.
As for the gags sure it felt more TFA than 1977… but I always found the original to be the funniest one.
More island stuff, less Canto Bight and space chase would have been fine.
So, uh, is this the good thread now? I think the other one just increased my risk of ocular cancer by about 200%.
XD!
What a shitshow of a thread. What happened here?
Meanwhile this laughing stock is going on too. About a Star Wars movie.
We stuck by you when you did things that hurt us before, so we ask you now, please don’t let this film stand. Don’t do this to us.
https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-have-disney-strike-star-wars-episode-viii-from-the-official-canon
Jeez.
The problem is that the first part of this new story strongly hints, that Rey’s parentage actually matters and then suddenly this other guy takes over the story and just goes “yeah, we’re not doing any of that”.
I strongly disagree. JJ’s statements about the force show he had the same reveal in mind. Rey’s parents only matter in terms of it matters to Rey. No one in TFA says her parents are important besides her, in fact if anything they say the opposite.
I’m talking about her Force vision, Anakin’s lightsaber calling to her and Ben Kenobi’s voice speaking to her. They have absolutely no idea what this meant when they set this up and it will probably amount to nothing at all. Maybe some clever writer will deal with that in a comic book or something.
Well the Force was doing that, not her magic space dad
It’s in line with what I seem to remember Gary Kurtz saying at one point, possibly in discussion with one of the other producters or writers (and I’m paraphrasing from memory) something like ‘everyone has the Force but only the Jedi train to use it, like martial arts masters’.
Phasma seems to exist to fulfil the director’s love for other movies - Phantasm with JJ and RoboCop with Rian (while selling toys). I feel bad for Gwendoline have to speak nonsense about the character at press junkets.
Just a thought but what is the Rottentomatoes user base like in size? IMDB seems far more favourable to it. Not that aggregates or points scoring matters of course.
You know the more I think about the end the more I like. I thought they’d have some stupid videogame type scene where Luke smashes the walkers or shoots back their energy. Instead it was more personal and supernatural.
I could be wrong, but while TFA had say three new themes, the only memorable music in TLJ was TIE Fighter Attack from Star Wars… Listening to it now but so far it’s just the old stuff.
Roughly same critical reception, markedly lower audience reception.
Yeah I don’t get the big audience / critical reception difference.
Does it say in TLJ why Snoke wanted to find Luke?
He said he thought the light side power he felt growing was Luke but it was instead Rey
Does anyone know what outline Lucas had for the new trilogy that he gave to Disney that they rejected?
Something about a family soap opera.
No I think it was supposed to be that Snoke wanted them to be brought together, and his plan was to have Kylo kill her so that his resolve would be stronger - and the threat he previously thought was Luke would also be gone of course.
The two characters being connected was still fascinating. The Ying/Yang idea was the most interesting part of the film, no more bloodlines only mystical cosmic energy. The idea of balance made sense for once.
Did Luke take his mechanical hand with him when he died?
Well most of his outfit too except the cloak. I guess that’s the way of things XD
rodneyfaile said:
the new walkers didn’t really do anything but stand there.
This was something I thought afterwards but couldn’t confirm, did only the TIE Fighters attack instead of the walkers just shooting down the junk ships?
Ryan said:
there really is NO MORE EXCUSES for not releasing the unaltered versions on Blu-Ray and/or 4K.
Except the excuse we were just given
The intro crawl theme didn’t sound like a new recording.
Jyn is an awful character.
Character is a bit strong.
Good article, but I think everyone knows what it was trying to be. Whether they liked it or not is a different matter.
Random thoughts while writing about the movie - I really love the bit where Rey is outside the Falcon putting her hand in the rain. No explanation needed. Also that Luke’s green saber is never seen after the flashback.
The Knights of Ren are sort of weird back story (like certain elements of SW before we had prequels) and or mystery box nonsense so who cares. Maybe they died, maybe they will be in IX. Whatever. The best part was they threw out so much “wooo what an enigma” stuff JJ is so fond of, and it makes TFA stronger because of it.