I’m also still confused about the whole “Disney ruined it” thing. I mean sure there are jokes that push things a little too far into Avengers territory, but otherwise how exactly is this is a safe corporate product? I’m pretty sure if they had their hooks deeply into Johnson it would be the film certain people really wanted with Luke cutting down 20 AT-ATs and an entire “Rey I am your father” scene so that all the basic fanboys are satisfied. I don’t really see any tight leashes on the writing here. Plus the “Mark Hamill said some things so that validates my entire perspective” line of thinking is also just weird.

Why is that scene a sticking point at all though? A Jedi can do all kinds of wacky things, and this falls under ‘knowledge and defence’ last time I checked. Jumping out of a trap or grabbing an object is fine but woah holding your breath and reaching for the nearest airlock is craazy. The only dumb part is that she didn’t pull inside the other bridge officers and seal the hole behind them.

Well ‘master of the Knights of Ren’ could be totally sarcastic, but I assume they’re his own friends or a bodyguard with some loyalty. The more interesting idea is whether the First Order itself will follow him blindly or not. They could explore how it functions and how they’re financed by using this idea to fill those TFA blanks… but I doubt it will happen.

There’s a show on Netflix called The Toys That Made Us and part one is Star Wars if anyone is interested. A lot of stuff people will know about and plenty of gaps in less than an hour running time, but plenty of interviews etc.

Handman said:

Wazzles said:

After seeing TLJ yesterday, this is my preliminary ranking:
ESB
SW
TFA
ROTJ
TLJ
R1
TPM
ROTS
AOTC

This may change after a second watch of TLJ.

Flip Star Wars and Empire and you’ve got mine now.

Mine too.

The prequel listing is negligible, but it goes TPM for some vague memory I have of the set pieces, then ROTS for Palpatine’s scenery chewing, then dead last AOTC for being worthless. They all basically suck at the same PSI though.

They dumped Colin Trevorrow because of The Book Of Henry. Or because he was a jerk and thought he was a big shot who could push Kathleen Kennedy around. Depends what you believe. There’s no connection between this and TLJ. The most concerning part is that Terrio is on board as a “writer” for some reason.

SilverWook said:

See you guys at the OOT release party. 😉

Finally a release date that makes sense

TavorX said:

Welcome to the Star Wars fandom. I think the recent RedLetterMedia review hit close to home when they point out how similar this fandom is to a political party. So much passion involved.

On Twitch they talked about how one of them didn’t like it that much and got lots of vitriol on Twitter. Then another member said they liked it a lot and got lots of vitriol on Twitter. Star Wars everyone!

Wolfman said:

Yes, I have that set. There were only four discs from the SE so that was good.
A couple of discs eluded me so I had to send away to a classified ad to get them.
The easiest way to complete the set was by buying a multi pack of crisps as they used to chuck about five discs in the bottom of the pack.

There were always a lot of terrible CGI Jabba ones. You had to buy Doritos to get certain ones I recall. I have no idea where the damn things are, lost to the ages.

LexX said:

I got a huge street poster of this: https://i.imgur.com/n1f4Hpe.jpg and put it on my wall. I noticed that it uses two OT X-Wings… Deliberately or by accident, hmm?

They also copy pasted Black One more than once - lazy, lazy designers

Okay these are a few things that would lead on from what we saw but also give us some entertainment value

• fractures in the First Order with the military vs the weird cult leaders
• fighters joining the resistance as a result, or from distant systems that heard what happened at Crait
• Rey using whatever is in those books
• Expansion and conclusion of the balance plot as a result
• Poe and Finn becoming competent at their jobs and leading a final assault
• Luke Ghost stuff
• Kylo mommy issues stuff that is now very tricky to achieve

The problem now is you have this terrible Rose love plot that does nothing, when she should have rescued Finn after his ship got hit by the laser machine to finish the ‘never meet your heroes’ plot thread. A week after seeing it this is the part that feels the worst in both terms of inclusion and execution.

Mystery Box Bonus round:

• Rey probably forgiving her parents or something
• Snoke ghost or resurrection / Vader mask stuff conclusion

He means Yoda. But that’s not the only change since the podrace was restructured and there are other things.

Valheru_84 said:
simply open the bomb doors to it and drop the bombs straight out of them, much like happens in this movie with no clue in to any tech keeping the bomber interior safe from space.

Worked in Empire.

don’t know why the Ties were called back, its not like they were getting shot to pieces or anything.

Fair point.

Edit by moderator…

The link below contains MASSIVE SPOILERS to The Last Jedi:-

Kylo reviews The Last Jedi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCvxX0keJ08

^ The link above contains MASSIVE SPOILERS to The Last Jedi.

Left the cinema with a smile once again - but with a more fulfilled feeling this time - and TLJ will still likely be in my thought for a good few weeks to come - and that’s what a good enjoyable film should do, isn’t it? (For me, anyway.)

This was my lasting impression. It’s not perfect. It’s not as good as the OT. But I did walk out on an unexpected high.

It’s hard to say exactly. A lot of people cite the weird tone in places, the gags and the quips. Others just don’t like the answers to certain mystery box questions. Others think Luke was “ruined” or something. Conversely others like all this switcheroo stuff so I guess that has lot to do with it.

And their boots?

It doesn’t have to go down in flames or anything. It could be crashed beyond repair. Then Lando can arrive and say ‘what did you do to my ship?’. Lando and Wedge need to be like hanging out with Pruneface and Crix Madine as the fighters who come out of retirement after Leia’s distress call to take down uh… The Peace… Globe.

Lobot can come too.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

I’m not saying that the Jedi are evil. Their teachings, however, seem to create as many problems as they solve which is why I’m hopeful that in Episode 9 Rey grows beyond their rules and begins a far better practice.

I agree, and I think the film suggests that will be the case.

Believing in the Force =/= believing blindly in a bunch of doctrines.

Yoda, Obi-wan and Luke die in a relatively peaceful way or at least that’s my take. They might not be choosing it but it has some purpose and not just being cut down or massacred by stormtroopers… but it’s ‘welp I guess this is it, but y’know that’s fine’ (Yoda is debatable but it could just be bad ROTJ writing to get him appear at the end celebration). His random announcement in the last few scenes of the prequels pushes sloppy writing to its limit and is one of the worst things ever.

Did anyone have all the Star Wars SE Tazos?

http://spakatak.com/tazos/set.php?id=527

In theory every ship in Star Wars can be autopiloted saving millions of lives. In theory every trooper can be a robot. What a nightmare fuel prequel movie that would be.

DominicCobb said:

I said “critic scores,” not audience scores. I’d imagine the audience score on Metacritic is equally abysmal for the same pathetic reasons.

I meant in reply to your “most people” comment

If the jedi (and throught the time there were a lot of jedi more powerful than Luke) could project a solid self to anywhere in the galaxy they could enter enemy ships ore bases and sabotage it or so. Many things in the war would be handled differently.

Not if it costs them their lives. It’s not clear if the energy it took did it, or whether the blows he took in the fight did “real” damage somehow, but I don’t think it’s something that they could do on a whim.

Just go to the movies and see one, jeez

Metacritic critic scores are more accurate, though most people don’t even know that site exists.

Well I don’t know about that, but I think that anyone who knows what review-bombing means will go to every outlet. I don’t know where some people on both sides of this debate get the energy.