Mocata

Welcome, if you do a little reading you’ll never have to watch something that takes you out of the movie again.

Does anyone find it weird that the 2011 versions of the OT are still shown on TV? I hardly ever watch stuff live any more, and it’s even rarer for me to suffer George’s changes, but I found recently it wasn’t the Macklunkey version. Or does Disney keep the “definitive” version to themselves?

Humby said:

This Rotta the Hutt stuff really worries my that we’re going to end up getting a scene where Ahsoka shows up (if not in this movie, then further down the line) and solves some disagreement by reminding him that she saved him as a baby.

I’d be amazed if this didn’t happen.

JadedSkywalker said:

Its the astral projecting bit, it’s the rebellion is reborn today and I won’t be the last jedi. Its the part of explaining the force is bigger than the light and the dark. Its bigger than the Sith and the Jedi. Its in all living things and defines the cosmos. Also Luke finally realizing how wrong the Jedi were but being too old and broken to make a change. So Rey has to take up the lightsaber instead. That i don’t know if its good or bad i’m split on that.

Yeah. But again, all interesting ideas and good jumping off points for… a third part of the trilogy that doesn’t exist.

What the fuck.

Yeah yeah, Finn becomes a Jedi, Poe becomes an Admiral, whatever, all things that should have been the story of TROS… but the issue is that these are endings not the start of new character arcs. You can throw in whatever new big bad and the problem is still there, you can’t really continue with this cast in a meaningful way now.

Well I don’t really know how; the point has passed in which Rey might have become someone interesting. Why sit through the stupidity of part IX just to see if a miracle happens in part X? I’ll have to pass.

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Off topic but I hate that RT hides the actual median score (currently only 6.7 out of 10)

Reviews of part 1 and 2 are in (which always seems counterproductive but we here are) so here are a few samples…

https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-star-wars-skeleton-crew-reviews-are-in/

“What stands out most when watching the series is that it feels so very influenced; it’s not just a “Star Wars” series, it’s “Star Wars” plus something. It’s gimmicky and not just a little cookie-cutter in its expansion of the sci-fi franchise, which gets diluted the more shows Disney+ cranks out.” – Kelly Lawler, USA Today

“Star Wars: Skeleton Crew gets off to a depressingly familiar start, while bungling the introduction of its primary protagonists and generally plodding along until Jude Law pops up.” – Ben Travers, Indiewire

“That’s all that ‘Skeleton Crew’ offers: appropriation for a halcyon era of cinema and little else. Worse, the exceptional Spielberg-ian tenor of marvel and amazement is absent, leaving behind a mostly hollow, fairly unremarkable, forgettable product.” – Rodrigo Perez, The Playlist

He probably did as he was told; rehashing is a safe bet after all. What he should have done was worked on the third movie to stop it turning to mush. There’s not much point coming back now and trying to do anything post-TROS.

You know… I forgot Rebel Moon existed.

Originality isn’t everything. After all, the big release of 1999 was going to be SW… but The Matrix happened.
These days I suppose Guardians of the Galaxy succeeded in being a cohesive trilogy (plus a few odds and ends) even if the Marvel tone isn’t for everyone.
As for Villeneuve… his best films are the ones before he started doing legacy sequels and reboots of older IPs.

Dune could have been the new Star Wars though. Instead it lacks the kind of charismatic performances and tragic romance that could have pushed things beyond a dry psuedo-retelling of the books. How can he direct Dune Part Three when so much of the weird and wonderful was missing? It’s really only a warm-up or a pre-amble for the third book (and therefore fourth movie). Maybe he needs to examine why he loved The Empire Strikes Back and try again…

Then again with Dune all you have is Arrakis and the Spice. Its a great novel but its also very old.

Very old and yet still relevant. Wars over resources, religious wars, wars started by corrupt autocrats, these things exist still. Again this Dune new film series could have been the new SW, but such a thing doesn’t currently exist. The biggest flashiest sci-fi epics are either too shallow (Avatar) or too dumb (TROS) with nothing that captures the imagination in a new way.

I think a handful of eruption shots are probably minor compared to the huge amount of liquid lava, floating droids, and collapsing machines in that sequence. Although to be fair some miniatures were also built for real.

I don’t miss it because I haven’t watched that panpipe version in many years.

It’s a 35mm trailer. R for Re-release, 77 for 1977 etc. You can find info about the NSS online.

lol

Not sure the best place to post this, as it’s about fan edits and mentions this forum:

https://youtu.be/WSLBmq4kjN4

Yeah well any deleted scenes would be good, but I feel like any trouble in production is always hidden forever by Disney.

It could just be the traditional stoic character type though. Emotions, particularly in male heroes, are expected to be kept inside. ‘True heroes shed blood not tears,’ etc.

Anchorhead said:

Mocata said:

At this stage I assume nothing is fine until production actually starts.

Even then, not a given. Solo was a mess well into production and ended up released as a mess.

But they actually released a film.

Yep, just scroll down the forum index. Something like TROS Ascendant is worth a look.

Very true, although he doesn’t show remorse at all after they leave the farm. He also seems only briefly upset about Obi-wan. Possibly just straightforward characterization, possibly just how the hero is written in this genre. Even Leia just says ‘we have no time for our sorrows’ before the final battle and moves on. Then again perhaps this is better than these days when every lead has to be full of trauma and regret.

The original Palpatine dialogue is better written too.

That’s just a fact.