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#1615058
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Very true, although he doesn’t show remorse at all after they leave the farm. He also seems only briefly upset about Obi-wan. Possibly just straightforward characterization, possibly just how the hero is written in this genre. Even Leia just says ‘we have no time for our sorrows’ before the final battle and moves on. Then again perhaps this is better than these days when every lead has to be full of trauma and regret.

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#1613821
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'Rey Skywalker' (Upcoming live action motion picture) - general discussion thread
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You’re never going to believe this! /s

https://www.darkhorizons.com/new-jedi-order-film-loses-knight/

“Peaky Blinders” creator Steven Knight is reportedly no longer writing the upcoming “Star Wars” film, previously nicknamed “New Jedi Order,” that will see the return of Daisy Ridley’s Rey. Puck News broke the story and indicates that as a result of this, the film will likely not achieve its previously rumored December 2026 release date.

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#1613664
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George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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NFBisms said:

For Lucas, it’s just valent to his prequels (and the context of the 70s) that his Empire is America. It’s a reflection of Star Wars’ contemporaneous moment. One of the most ‘revolutionary’ times in pop art and music.

Oh sure, it’s clear from characters that say things like ‘I’m not in this for your revolution sister,’ that certain contemporary ideas are being pulled in. Or at least ones from the previous decade. I just feel like because of the prequels having to be part of his ‘original vision’ these elements like the ‘war on terror’ have to align with earlier social issues. So of course he will say it was always about Vietnam. It was always six movies, and so on. I just don’t really see the broad strokes in the OT at all. So I guess we can agree to disagree.

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#1613650
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George Lucas: Star Wars Creator, Unreliable Narrator &amp; Time Travelling Revisionist...
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Servii said:

There’s a difference between drawing visual and thematic inspiration from Vietnam, and doing a full-on allegory about the Vietnam war. And if Star Wars really was meant to be a Vietnam allegory, then it’s a really bad one for several reasons.

George has always been one to speak bluntly. He’s not gonna beat around the bush and say something like “I drew on the visuals and themes of Vietnam to enhance my story.” He’ll just say “It’s about Vietnam. Palpatine is Nixon.” Because he speaks bluntly. That doesn’t make it a full allegory, necessarily.

While I appreciate the note about Cosmonaut orange there are few real references to things in the Cold War (you’d have to ignore that Yuri Gagarin fought the Nazis not the USA). The Imperial troops aren’t wearing tiger-stripe green and being entrenched in guerilla warfare. The WW2 stuff just overrides almost everything else. They’re not in an arms race, they trying to stop one big new weapon like the 1940s. They’re not a down and dirty faction using any basic tools they can, they’re equipped with fighters that in many cases are better than the big bad have, like in the 1940s.

Admittedly the like of Rogue One and Andor muddy the waters but the point stands. “Palpatine is Nixon” falls apart because there’s no opposing leaders to fit that analogue. Are the leaders from Yavin the Chinese? Are the Mon Calamari the USSR? Even if he did say “I drew on the visuals and themes of Vietnam to enhance my story,” then it falls down. Which is very funny when you think that James Cameron is the one that has made multiple films built in incredibly blunt 'Nam references.

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#1612370
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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G&G-Fan said:

How long did Luke know Ben, in the context of the OT?

To me, it always felt like they knew each other for awhile, but couldn’t see each other often because of Owen. They seem familiar with one another in their scenes together.

“Ben! Boy am I glad to see you.”

“Tell me young Luke, what brings you out this far?”

Whether or not they knew each other for awhile, I’ve never agreed with the criticism of Luke for being too sad when he dies. Luke is a person who grows to care for people fast. Likely because he doesn’t seem to have many friends on Tatooine left.

Luke about R2 near the end of the movie, after a couple days with him:
“Not on your life! That little droid and I have been through a lot together.”

Yeah it’s not that obvious, although he just calls him a strange old hermit earlier on, rather than anything more formal.

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#1610912
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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Unfortunately Screen Rant is a rag and George didn’t make the films by himself. As per early in the thread:

Mocata said:
George is clearly one of bean counters who would have commissioned somebody else to create a work of art. Imagine if a Pope back in history claimed that some masterpiece was all their own doing and had the right to paint over it.