Mocata

While time dilation is a real thing I don’t think it happens here, plus it doesn’t really fit with SW. In Empire I assumed the journey took much longer since the Falcon had to travel slowly, then Luke jumped into light speed and arrived a lot faster at Bespin. It also means Leia and Han had more time to grow on each other. At a guess… a month. Unless we believe that each piece of training is one day.

In TLJ I’m sure that 3 tests = 3 days = same 72 hours of fuel that the Resistance flagship had. I can’t be certain.

ROTS… 9 weeks? Who really cares.

dahmage said:

so there are at least some people who just struggle taking in new films

Or any films.

Gaffer Tape said:

Wow. I never would have guessed we’d be debating whether or not Luke choked the guards. It always seemed completely obvious to me that he was choking them. Funny how that works.

Honestly, Luke’s motivations seem extremely plausible by comparison.

Yes and yes.

dahmage said:

Oh my goodness, this thread is giving me such a headache right now.

Also yes.

joefavs said:

This is the first time in my 28 years that it’s even occurred to me that Luke could’ve been doing anything other than choking the guards. I had no idea there was any disagreement at all about that.

Ditto. We’re way off topic but it’s not vague at all. I hate to cite the novelisation, but just as a quick check it says they were ‘choking and gasping’. It’s not even cryptic since when talks to Bib Fortuna, Jabba calls him a weak minded fool as a direct reference to Luke and Ben arriving at Mos Eisley and using his powers of persuasion. It’s very well defined.

Mrebo said:

“That’s not what the truck looks like” is what’s wrong with how some view Star Wars. The Force can be used to influence minds. That’s the “trick.”

I don’t know what you’re saying. Luke does two things when he enters the palace, he raises his hand and chokes two guys with blatant visual and audio clues - exactly like Vader. Then he goes inside and tries to ‘trick’ Jabba with spoken words - just like Kenobi. Both are distinctive, and they are shown just as they were in the previous two movies. How are you getting the old ‘you don’t need to see his identification’ gag mixed up I don’t know, especially when he does it in the same scene. You think he did the same thing twice?

AveKender said:
In my version of Alien 3, Ripley would have birthed the xenomorph about a third of the way through the film and the Alien would turn out to be a benevolent protector of Newt and Hicks.

Well that’s probably the only idea that would have been worse than what we got.

There have been a lot of weird posts in the past 2 weeks but this one takes the biscuit.

adywan said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mocata said:

Warbler said:

I don’t recall Luke choking anyone in ROTJ

I thought he was using a Jedi mind trick there.

I agree with Warb. We know what it looks like if someone is choking and that wasn’t what happened in that scene. I have always read the scene as Luke convincing the GGs to go back to their posts and sleep, their hands on their chests in a restrained or passive position.

Really? Even with the guards grabbing their throats and making choking noises? He was obviously force choking.

Especially considering that’s not what the mind trick looks like and the fact the whole movie is building up to will-he-won’t-he with the final denial of the dark side at the end. No idea why someone would think otherwise. But then I’ve no idea how some people process any kind of movie information these days.

Warbler said:

I don’t recall Luke choking anyone in ROTJ

joefavs said:

I don’t think that’s a bad thing.

Don’t you remember how Obi-wan died but somehow the saber didn’t even touch him and even Vader looked confused, and this weird mystical occurrence ruined the whole movie.

Hahaha the whole Mace Windu thing and the way they all act is comedy gold. Like a bunch of drunks. “We must move quickly!” - walks as casually as possible.

Are those last two Lego kits?

Kaz Oomori

SilverWook said:

I think you’re misconstruing my attempts to inject some much needed levity into this thread.

However…
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luuke_Skywalker

Being glib is wasted on some people

TV’s Frink said:

Mocata said:

TV’s Frink said:
I’m sorry, I just don’t see how this isn’t another one of those cases where the new movies are held to a completely different standard than the old movies.

Woaah what are you talking about there Frink. In the OT women weren’t military leaders, the Force powers didn’t change with each movie, actors never wanted their characters to go in a different direction than what they got, and more diversity wasn’t added in the 2nd part. It’s clearly totally different and ruins everything.

Is this too sarcastic or not enough? I can’t tell with some of the posts going on here lately.

I think you just broke my brain.

So more sarcasm, got it.

TV’s Frink said:
I’m sorry, I just don’t see how this isn’t another one of those cases where the new movies are held to a completely different standard than the old movies.

Woaah what are you talking about there Frink. In the OT women weren’t military leaders, the Force powers didn’t change with each movie, actors never wanted their characters to go in a different direction than what they got, and more diversity wasn’t added in the 2nd part. It’s clearly totally different and ruins everything.

Is this too sarcastic or not enough? I can’t tell with some of the posts going on here lately.

Mithrandir said:
the movie is to me in most of its layers an attack on the male gender role. Don’t relate to what happens outside of you, don’t seize the outer world. Look inside your womb, balance inside you, etc.

???

I’m also still confused about the whole “Disney ruined it” thing. I mean sure there are jokes that push things a little too far into Avengers territory, but otherwise how exactly is this is a safe corporate product? I’m pretty sure if they had their hooks deeply into Johnson it would be the film certain people really wanted with Luke cutting down 20 AT-ATs and an entire “Rey I am your father” scene so that all the basic fanboys are satisfied. I don’t really see any tight leashes on the writing here. Plus the “Mark Hamill said some things so that validates my entire perspective” line of thinking is also just weird.

Why is that scene a sticking point at all though? A Jedi can do all kinds of wacky things, and this falls under ‘knowledge and defence’ last time I checked. Jumping out of a trap or grabbing an object is fine but woah holding your breath and reaching for the nearest airlock is craazy. The only dumb part is that she didn’t pull inside the other bridge officers and seal the hole behind them.

Well ‘master of the Knights of Ren’ could be totally sarcastic, but I assume they’re his own friends or a bodyguard with some loyalty. The more interesting idea is whether the First Order itself will follow him blindly or not. They could explore how it functions and how they’re financed by using this idea to fill those TFA blanks… but I doubt it will happen.

There’s a show on Netflix called The Toys That Made Us and part one is Star Wars if anyone is interested. A lot of stuff people will know about and plenty of gaps in less than an hour running time, but plenty of interviews etc.

Handman said:

Wazzles said:

After seeing TLJ yesterday, this is my preliminary ranking:
ESB
SW
TFA
ROTJ
TLJ
R1
TPM
ROTS
AOTC

This may change after a second watch of TLJ.

Flip Star Wars and Empire and you’ve got mine now.

Mine too.

The prequel listing is negligible, but it goes TPM for some vague memory I have of the set pieces, then ROTS for Palpatine’s scenery chewing, then dead last AOTC for being worthless. They all basically suck at the same PSI though.

They dumped Colin Trevorrow because of The Book Of Henry. Or because he was a jerk and thought he was a big shot who could push Kathleen Kennedy around. Depends what you believe. There’s no connection between this and TLJ. The most concerning part is that Terrio is on board as a “writer” for some reason.

SilverWook said:

See you guys at the OOT release party. 😉

Finally a release date that makes sense

TavorX said:

Welcome to the Star Wars fandom. I think the recent RedLetterMedia review hit close to home when they point out how similar this fandom is to a political party. So much passion involved.

On Twitch they talked about how one of them didn’t like it that much and got lots of vitriol on Twitter. Then another member said they liked it a lot and got lots of vitriol on Twitter. Star Wars everyone!

Wolfman said:

Yes, I have that set. There were only four discs from the SE so that was good.
A couple of discs eluded me so I had to send away to a classified ad to get them.
The easiest way to complete the set was by buying a multi pack of crisps as they used to chuck about five discs in the bottom of the pack.

There were always a lot of terrible CGI Jabba ones. You had to buy Doritos to get certain ones I recall. I have no idea where the damn things are, lost to the ages.

LexX said:

I got a huge street poster of this: https://i.imgur.com/n1f4Hpe.jpg and put it on my wall. I noticed that it uses two OT X-Wings… Deliberately or by accident, hmm?

They also copy pasted Black One more than once - lazy, lazy designers