Okay these are a few things that would lead on from what we saw but also give us some entertainment value

• fractures in the First Order with the military vs the weird cult leaders
• fighters joining the resistance as a result, or from distant systems that heard what happened at Crait
• Rey using whatever is in those books
• Expansion and conclusion of the balance plot as a result
• Poe and Finn becoming competent at their jobs and leading a final assault
• Luke Ghost stuff
• Kylo mommy issues stuff that is now very tricky to achieve

The problem now is you have this terrible Rose love plot that does nothing, when she should have rescued Finn after his ship got hit by the laser machine to finish the ‘never meet your heroes’ plot thread. A week after seeing it this is the part that feels the worst in both terms of inclusion and execution.

Mystery Box Bonus round:

• Rey probably forgiving her parents or something
• Snoke ghost or resurrection / Vader mask stuff conclusion

He means Yoda. But that’s not the only change since the podrace was restructured and there are other things.

Valheru_84 said:
simply open the bomb doors to it and drop the bombs straight out of them, much like happens in this movie with no clue in to any tech keeping the bomber interior safe from space.

Worked in Empire.

don’t know why the Ties were called back, its not like they were getting shot to pieces or anything.

Fair point.

Edit by moderator…

The link below contains MASSIVE SPOILERS to The Last Jedi:-

Kylo reviews The Last Jedi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCvxX0keJ08

^ The link above contains MASSIVE SPOILERS to The Last Jedi.

Left the cinema with a smile once again - but with a more fulfilled feeling this time - and TLJ will still likely be in my thought for a good few weeks to come - and that’s what a good enjoyable film should do, isn’t it? (For me, anyway.)

This was my lasting impression. It’s not perfect. It’s not as good as the OT. But I did walk out on an unexpected high.

It’s hard to say exactly. A lot of people cite the weird tone in places, the gags and the quips. Others just don’t like the answers to certain mystery box questions. Others think Luke was “ruined” or something. Conversely others like all this switcheroo stuff so I guess that has lot to do with it.

And their boots?

It doesn’t have to go down in flames or anything. It could be crashed beyond repair. Then Lando can arrive and say ‘what did you do to my ship?’. Lando and Wedge need to be like hanging out with Pruneface and Crix Madine as the fighters who come out of retirement after Leia’s distress call to take down uh… The Peace… Globe.

Lobot can come too.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

I’m not saying that the Jedi are evil. Their teachings, however, seem to create as many problems as they solve which is why I’m hopeful that in Episode 9 Rey grows beyond their rules and begins a far better practice.

I agree, and I think the film suggests that will be the case.

Believing in the Force =/= believing blindly in a bunch of doctrines.

Yoda, Obi-wan and Luke die in a relatively peaceful way or at least that’s my take. They might not be choosing it but it has some purpose and not just being cut down or massacred by stormtroopers… but it’s ‘welp I guess this is it, but y’know that’s fine’ (Yoda is debatable but it could just be bad ROTJ writing to get him appear at the end celebration). His random announcement in the last few scenes of the prequels pushes sloppy writing to its limit and is one of the worst things ever.

Did anyone have all the Star Wars SE Tazos?

http://spakatak.com/tazos/set.php?id=527

In theory every ship in Star Wars can be autopiloted saving millions of lives. In theory every trooper can be a robot. What a nightmare fuel prequel movie that would be.

DominicCobb said:

I said “critic scores,” not audience scores. I’d imagine the audience score on Metacritic is equally abysmal for the same pathetic reasons.

I meant in reply to your “most people” comment

If the jedi (and throught the time there were a lot of jedi more powerful than Luke) could project a solid self to anywhere in the galaxy they could enter enemy ships ore bases and sabotage it or so. Many things in the war would be handled differently.

Not if it costs them their lives. It’s not clear if the energy it took did it, or whether the blows he took in the fight did “real” damage somehow, but I don’t think it’s something that they could do on a whim.

Just go to the movies and see one, jeez

Metacritic critic scores are more accurate, though most people don’t even know that site exists.

Well I don’t know about that, but I think that anyone who knows what review-bombing means will go to every outlet. I don’t know where some people on both sides of this debate get the energy.

Critical responses on RT take mediocre and above and translate them all into “fresh”. User reviews clearly count for nothing despite them publicly saying that there was no evidence of interference (how they would ever catch anyone is unclear).

SilverWook said:

I thought it was one of the elusive escape pods mentioned in the first film.

I was always confused about how there is more than one on board… where exactly? Books over the years have never been consistent. I can’t picture what the interior of the Falcon was like in that TLJ scene.

dwsiddall said:
Luke was drinking “hot chocolate”. I put the book down and never picked it up again. No. This is a different universe. They don’t have chocolate. Even if they had something that was exactly like chocolate, they wouldn’t call it chocolate. Any earth references completely ruin the story.

But what if it was blue chocolate?

It’s honestly hard to recapture the old feelings I have towards things like KOTOR, Dark Forces 2 and the TIE Fighter series. It’s been so long and unlike movies I can dip into any time they don’t age the same way. It’s that kind of stuff which fits the bill in my memory, but I haven’t touched it all for years.

SilverWook said:

ravenna said:

One of the issues I have with the new movies is the constant over-explanation of everything. Star Wars has never been subtle, but did we really need to see people with monocles and tuxedos on understand that these were rich people?

TLJ was a movie-equivalent of a Thomas Kinkade painting.

It’s an exclusive casino. What are they supposed to wear? Even Vegas has places they won’t let you in without a suit.

You never see anybody in street clothes in a casino in a 007 movie. 😉

Space Nazis wear overtly fascistic garb but space oil tycoons have to be subtle? Hm.

As for the gags sure it felt more TFA than 1977… but I always found the original to be the funniest one.

More island stuff, less Canto Bight and space chase would have been fine.

ChainsawAsh said:

So, uh, is this the good thread now? I think the other one just increased my risk of ocular cancer by about 200%.

XD!

What a shitshow of a thread. What happened here?

Meanwhile this laughing stock is going on too. About a Star Wars movie.

We stuck by you when you did things that hurt us before, so we ask you now, please don’t let this film stand. Don’t do this to us.
https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-have-disney-strike-star-wars-episode-viii-from-the-official-canon

Jeez.

Wexter said:

DominicCobb said:

Wexter said:

The problem is that the first part of this new story strongly hints, that Rey’s parentage actually matters and then suddenly this other guy takes over the story and just goes “yeah, we’re not doing any of that”.

I strongly disagree. JJ’s statements about the force show he had the same reveal in mind. Rey’s parents only matter in terms of it matters to Rey. No one in TFA says her parents are important besides her, in fact if anything they say the opposite.

I’m talking about her Force vision, Anakin’s lightsaber calling to her and Ben Kenobi’s voice speaking to her. They have absolutely no idea what this meant when they set this up and it will probably amount to nothing at all. Maybe some clever writer will deal with that in a comic book or something.

Well the Force was doing that, not her magic space dad