I feel like Han’s father does have a name, it’s just Han doesn’t like him
He seemed to at least reminisce about the ship yard days though.
Turd? Shocking language.
…I’d expect something a lot stronger considering this place being dedicated to undoing his juvenile vandalised version of a film series.
I dread to ask… but what was Han’s father called if he has no surname?
The characters in Star Wars has never been deep. Deal with it.
When you buy a Star Wars action figure 9 and 1/2 times out of 10 it’ll be a masked character or some kind of really cool creature, it won’t be a human character with a face. That should give any thinking person a clue as to what kind of film franchise Star Wars really is.
I already said they weren’t deep, and why it doesn’t always matter.
The rest of this is a non sequitur.
Well sure there are people doing a bunch of things on the screen. Yes.
The Autistic Asexual said:
There’s characters in Rogue One. You might not like them but they’re there.
Not true. To like or dislike them they have to exist. Instead it’s a bunch of stand ins that are not developed. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that SW77 or even the PT has deep characters. But you need either real characterisation, or just simply fun screen presence and charisma. But you have to have one or the other.
DominicCobb said:
Also, “motivational” is another weird barometer, so I’m not sure you’re point really works.
Well call it what you like. Emotionally resonant?
Well replace it with … I don’t know “mister” or “count” as you say and maybe it works. But is Obi-wan being sassy then or just senile?
As for Ren… he gets no respect!
is it unreasonable to consider the post-Lucas era of Star Wars fan fiction?
What about 1999 to 2005 was worth keeping?
A lot of good ideas here (real good and funny good)
But! Spoiler Warning for Solo
It’s a really unfair barometer. I don’t remember the score for Alien off the top of my head but I’d never just assume that it’s bad because I don’t remember it. I could say the same about most of the movies I’ve seen, honestly.
Memorable and motivational are not the same thing. The music in Star Wars really gets you pumped. The music in Alien is a mixture of different atmospheres, both relaxed and disturbing. They’re supposed to be complimentary. A swashbuckling adventure and a tale of unknown dread. That bit where the A L I … appears is amazing. The fanfare as the fighters go into the trench run is amazing. But it’s a different amazing. Did Solo have either of those moments? I don’t remember any.
It’s only silly now in retrospect when the PT tells us Obi-wan is such a dummy that he’s basically saying “…only a master of evil, Lord”
Rogue One is NOT a movie about individual characters anyway it’s way more about the collective sacrifice.
But suicide mission plots exist elsewhere, they’ve been done. With characters. Or are you saying that ensemble cast movies don’t need characters? What are you saying?
I would have preferred they showed us anything with Han at the academy.
And Emilia Clarke…oh goodness is she amazing.
I’m gonna have to disagree with this. She isn’t bad but I don’t think to date I’ve ever seen a good performance out of her. She’s just always… Kinda there
Agreed. That joke where she has to move out of the co-pilot chair to let Chewbacca do his thing felt particularly bad, like something from the first cut before the acting coaches arrived.
Yeah the old Lego Star Wars OT was fun enough. Before they started going overboard with those games and filling them with gimmicks like the LOTR one. That being said the Force Awakens is good, except for the split screen which is that horrible dynamic kind that swirls around when you’re both at a certain distance.
I don’t own any actual Lego sets though, its really over priced and I’d probably collect other kinds of merch given the chance.
Okay real ranking. Let’s be honest, none of these films are 0/10 unless you haven’t seen many other movies. Even if you truly hate them, there’s a wealth of awful stuff out there.
Star Wars: 9/10
Empire: 9/10
Jedi: 8/10
TLJ: 7/10
TFA: 6/10
SOLO: 5/10
ROGUE ONE: 4/10
Others: 2/10
http://www.darkhorizons.com/disney-exec-reflects-on-solo-opening/
Why did he not have a surname? He talks about his dad later…
Clint Howard’s Gonk Wars was a thing that exists in this movie.
It’s just feels sort of empty despite the running time. They skip over Corellia, then they skip over the war - these should have been half the movie where the deepest cuts are made. Beckett’s original crew all die before we get to know them. Then Lando’s robot dies. Who else was there? Qi’ra is there I guess. Apparently Chewbacca eats people. At the end there’s a dramatic reveal about Enfys Nest (?) but I didn’t know her before so there’s no impact.
This movie was all just bland grey filler. It was watchable. Fans of Rogue One will like it. I’m not sure why they go to the trouble of showing Han being someone who lives in the worst slum, then gets thrown into the worst war zone, only for him to still just be a guy who helps out that tribe at the end. Needed to be a hardened cynic by the end. There are major structural problems that sap the dramatic pacing and they should have put the two heists into one finale to allow more characterisation in the first half. Darth Maul is pointless studio think tank material. Overall - Eh.
Sure but it’s not enough that they go through the motions and call each other liar/betrayer etc. I have no idea why Anakin believes what he does beyond the fact the story needs him to be in a robot suit after 130 minutes. Especially when some of the promises Palpatine fed him were so vague and outlandish.
The Thanos problem, yeah it’s similar. In some ways. But he at least does thing A to get macguffin B, and I see how that works. I don’t have to get over so many logic hurdles.