Mocata

Wow.

Emilia Clarke is just awful.

If we chalk up ESB Yoda to being wrong along with everything else in the PT

Where exactly does ESB match the prequels at all?

I watched this video from Wisecrack the other day by Jared Bauer regarding “what went wrong” with The Last Jedi. After Hal posted it on his TLJ Edit thread I decided to comment on it. I felt like I should post it here instead because I didn’t want to start a discussion not directly related to his edit on that thread. Hope you guys don’t mind.

I saw that video a few days ago. It makes a few good points that go beyond the clickbait title, but I think they ignore a few things. The third act doesn’t “undo” the message of the first two. It just re-evaluates it. Good and evil are necessary in the end, since grey areas lead to DJ being a scumbag. Killing the past is bad despite Luke’s best intentions, since learning is always needed. Kylo is wrong, because he can’t understand this. Yes the eternal conflict will go on forever, but making everyone a grey morally baseless character doesn’t work in a story where wars are inevitable. The Jedi Order failed not because it was “too good” but because it was dumb and blind.

Anakin’s most evil deed was building a robot to help his mom, a robot that can barely move its arms.

I just don’t remember it being that complicated. I guess I was more of a Galaxian fan.

NeverarGreat said:

Mocata said:

NeverarGreat said:

My headcanon has long been that the slaughter was just a dream sequence that George accidentally edited as if it really happened. This makes sense of Padme treating it exactly as she would a bad dream.

Nah it’s George thinking… hmm what would a bad person do? And then child killing becomes his only character trait besides whining all the time.

Your characterization of his thought process is…kind of outrageous

If you’re joking imagine a Han Solo laughing gif here.

If you’re not joking also imagine I posted one.

Wasn’t the Atari VCS game just an endless series of walkers though?

ToscheStation said:

For the second movie of a supposed nine-movie continuous narrative, TESB sure has a lot of reveals:

1. The character of Yoda
2. Lando
3. The Emperor (via-hologram)
4. Vader “I am your father”
5. “No, there is another”

This … is a ROTJ thread? I feel like I missed something.

NeverarGreat said:

My headcanon has long been that the slaughter was just a dream sequence that George accidentally edited as if it really happened. This makes sense of Padme treating it exactly as she would a bad dream.

Nah it’s George thinking… hmm what would a bad person do? And then child killing becomes his only character trait besides whining all the time.

Looks like they erased his lower torso and some parts of his legs to fit him on the poster. Jeez.

DominicCobb said:

Sad, confused, angry. No reason it can’t be all of them.

But not conflicted and amazed.

It’s probably a bad idea to look at the further results.

Eugh… these gifs. I can almost hear the 16-bit sounds. Plus they are clearly riding in that floating machine Dr Robotnik used.

Maybe you haven’t been keeping up with current events.

He looked vaguely sad, and vaguely confused. Whatever the script was originally it’s not on the screen. Sorry to rain on your parade.

These things were also not in the movie.

That word was not in ROTJ.

The TFA marketing overdrive that kept going on about practical effects was actually an attempt to annoy people that loved all the gorgeous prequel vistas.

Yeah, but they’re still all distorted badly. I’m surprised nobody has remade them from scratch.

fmalover said:
I applaud Johnson’s decision to do away with TFA’s stupid set-up and just trust his instincts doing what he felt was right. I’d like to know if anyone here

Sure. Snoke was a dead nobody and Rey was also nobody and I loved that stuff.

GZK8000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Mocata said:

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

What is the problem with the RO explanation?

This is not how you do this thread right hahaha.

Ohhhhhh.

But for real, it was a top secret plan they needed to steal, in order to research a strategy. The one weakness, something the villains overlooked because they were arrogant (they didn’t consider a small fighter attack to be a threat). Now it’s because some guy put the flaw in there all along… eugh.

Chilling with Lobot probably. Both annoyed that Nien Nunb didn’t want to hang out.

GZK8000 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate the exhaust port complaint. People say that the Empire should’ve just covered it up, but that defeats the purpose of an exhaust port! It’s established that the port is tiny and apparently only someone with extreme propensity for the force can even hit it. Also, the port wasn’t what destroyed the Death Star. It was a chain reaction explosion caused by a torpedo making it all the way down the port and into the center of the space station. It isn’t like the exhaust port was a self-destruct button.

The funny thing is that when Lucasfilm addresses this complain, they add even more improbable and implausible stuff on top of the original plausible but improbable stuff.

Agreed. The dumb ideas added in RO are the problem, not the original plans that needed to be researched to find the weakness in 1977.

TV’s Frink said:

That Darth one isn’t one I’ve ever been able to get worked up about either way, but I guess I understand the complaint.

It’s a small complaint, yes. But it’s one step away from making everyone who’s bad wield a red lightsaber and know how to use Force Lightning™. A further step into lunacy and you get names like Grievous and Tyrannous, and slowly it all starts to look like ideas from a 9 year old’s crayon drawing.

Kylo needs to get everything he ever wanted before losing his mind through guilt. A nice breakdown, no redemption.