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#1269721
Topic
Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

Wish there was a way to do a poll on this site.

Do we think that’s:
A. Jakku
B. Tatooine
C. Jedha
D. Some new desert planet

I’d put money on not only it being Jakku, but someone will say something like “Why does everyone want to go back to Jakku” to wink at the audience.

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#1267928
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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nl0428 said:

Mocata said:

Vader was redeemed by his love for Luke… cheesy and unearned as that might be.

Kylo currently hates everyone? Really he needs to have a major new characterisation moment or realise he screwed up before falling into a hell of his own making. Something like that.

That’s not true. He cares truly for Rey. Just like how Anakin’s love for Luke brought him back, Ben’s love for Rey will also play a key factor to his redemption.

“You have no place in this story. You come from nothing. You’re nothing. But not to me.”

  • Kylo Ren/Ben Solo (The Last Jedi)

Sounds like bad guy manipulation to me. He needs to fall down a mineshaft pronto. Hopefully in a haze of despair as he sees the faces of all his murder victims.

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#1263827
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Best Explanation Of Mary Sue Issue
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Valheru_84 said:
I haven’t seen the video linked in this thread

Yeah I can tell.

My point was not saying these elements are “bad” but it was in counter to his idea that (and I paraphrase) that characters that are written properly act in a logical way, and not in way that betrays how the writer wants or feels they “should” act. To which my reply was to say that clearly Ripley changed from one movie to the next in a way that shows how Cameron likes to write female leads. Authorial intent is very apparent. So I’m not saying Aliens or the character is “bad”, but rather that if we wanted make his argument look flimsy it’s very easy to do. Which, as I’ve already said would be silly since I love Aliens.

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#1263821
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Best Explanation Of Mary Sue Issue
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Voss Caltrez said:

Mocata said:

I love that he goes on about Aliens so much (a movie I love) but then misses how laboured and on the nose the motherhood themes are after Ripley was just a straight edge pro in the original that was written without gender. If you wanted to be really silly about this it would be just as easy to suggest that like Terminator 2 James Cameron can’t help making his leads into simple child bearing stereotypes who must overcome very basic fears to become mothers/heroes.

Good point.
Also, the character of Ripley could also be accused of “pushing an agenda” since the lone voice of reason is a woman, arguing against a majority of stupid men.

Yes, also to further the subtext that she is the mother and they are children.

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#1263803
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Best Explanation Of Mary Sue Issue
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I love that he goes on about Aliens so much (a movie I love) but then misses how laboured and on the nose the motherhood themes are after Ripley was just a straight edge pro in the original that was written without gender. If you wanted to be really silly about this it would be just as easy to suggest that like Terminator 2 James Cameron can’t help making his leads into simple child bearing stereotypes who must overcome very basic fears to become mothers/heroes.