Mike O

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Hey I know some of you hate the SE's and George Lucas. But you aren't the only ones who wanted the original trilogy on DVD.

Some of us like the new ones as much as the old ones, and still wanted to have the originals on DVD for posterity.

Feel free to hate me if that's the sort of thing you guys revel in, but I don't see why there can't be a less hateful voice among the torch and picth-fork carrying types.

I don't think the original trilogy was crap. I was just saying my parents thought it was crap and yet they let me make up my own mind about them.

I can see not liking the prequels, but to actually keep your kids from seeing them until they are past childhood, just because you are afraid they might like them if they aren't old enough, well why don't you cancel Christmas while you're at it?

As far as going back to TFN, I can't I was banned for a lenghty duration for saying that this is the best the O-OT has ever looked on home video to date.

I guess they aren't interested in heated debate, and they will just ban people until the forum resembles a sedate nursing home.

All I want to know is why some of you hate with such eagerness? Do you think hate is a good thing to revel in? What good will it do you in the end?

Originally posted by: JediRandy


Not tryin' to make a difference.... just offering a differing opinion.

And to annoy you, which I obviously am being that you're incapable of ignoring any of my posts.

Originally posted by: JediRandy


Yeah, Lucas sat down at a computer and screwed up the OOT trasfer all by himself. He was wearing a Jar Jar T-shirt and lighting cuban cigars with 100 dollar bills, too.

That's almost as good as Lucas opening the mail at Skywalker ranch.

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
My parents didn't like the original trilogy at all.

I'm glad my parents let me see it before I was old enough to know it was crap.

Originally posted by: mverta
You know what? The OUT DVD is going to sell like gangbusters. Especially to a lot of people who talk about boycotting it on message boards. The greatest bluff Lucasfilm can call is on fans not slurping up what they give them, because we always do. Always. I'm sorry, but if the fart-laden Jar Jar fest can generate that much money, we've lost all our credibility in terms of what we will and won't pay for. We'll pay for whatever they give us and like it. They know it. I know it, and if you don't know it, then you don't want to know it. The 1% of the people on this board who are going to stick to their "this is bullshit" guns, are the same 1% of the people in the world who stick to ANYTHING they say. Each and every one of whom, by the way, has a beer on me next time I see them.

_Mike

Originally posted by: mverta
The way the storytelling craft is plummeting, they're going to need more and more tricks to get people in the theaters. Louder, bigger, brighter, in 3D... this is the kind of stuff you have to keep raising the bar on when nobody gives a crap about the story you're telling. This is why little independent movies on shoestring budgets come along and blow big studio films out of the water - they don't have the money for shiny objects; they have to survive on their storytelling. And when they do, they pwn. You can't get around having a story people are drawn into and characters they connect with. But that is a billion times harder to do than turning the volume up, putting everybody in cardboard dork glasses and saying, "How about THAT!" with a big, "repurposed" shit-eating grin on your face.

And Peter Jackson can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned. King Kong was 3 seconds of kick-ass monkey eyes and 1,900 "so-so to piss-poor" CG shots. Ditto all those freakin' LotR movies that might as well be surgical anesthetic. I am still stunned that people have had their expectations lowered so much that they actually enjoy watching a digital crowd simulation run for 6 minutes. What's even more sad is that movies are such an important part of our entertainment that people will increasingly watch with their expectations and nostalgia, forgive this stuff or refuse to see it because their eyes and ears and hearts couldn't possibly justify the $10.

_Mike

the film fails on such basic technical levels I can't believe it was produced by veteran professionals. Actually, it wasn't.

Originally posted by: Jay
Whenever the box sets go on sale, I think about getting them.

I was completely enraptured with the series for several years in college. It has its fair share of average episodes, but when it shines, it shines.

I didn't watch too much after Mulder disappeared, so the show was always an open end to me. I'd love to sit down and watch the whole series from start to finish someday.

Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It sounds to me like simple avarice. If producing the first season on DVD isn't going to make you enough profit to justify releases of the subsequent seasons either WAIT for the demand to go up or RELEASE FEWER COPIES. It's not that difficult, Disney. You DON'T just refuse to release the second season because they didn't sale enough copies of the first.

Also, the fact that Gargoyles still airs on the family channel might have something to do with it. If you really want to sell the DVDs, take the show off the air for a while.

Originally posted by: Doctor M
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Wow that was a terrible experience.
3 guests: Bill Hunt, who knows what he's talking about. theForce.net guy is an idiot who is asking for the worst transfer GL can make (guess he just wants people to laugh at him. Someone should tell him they already are). And the other guy, whoever he is, just wants chicken or something.

So what do they do? Cut off Bill Hunt whenever he starts talking. Sigh. Don't watch this if you are already angry.
Evidently we ASKED for a low quality laserdisc cut. No REALLY!

Even if it was only on G4 I though maybe our message would get out there, but Star Wars fans now look (more) like idiots.

Wait for an update on thedigitalbits site later today if you want more info.

Originally posted by: Mielr


But they DID NOT ADD cgi grain to the movies. They have deliberately chosen an inferior transfer because they did not want to invest any amount of work into the OOT.

BUT THEY DID NOT ADD CGI GRAIN!

Let´s have patience. The foot is now in the door, and the OOT has become sort of official now again. If those who wanted are sending their scratched SE discs back to Lucas with a nice letter, I think it make some people there think.

Originally posted by: JediRandy
If you guys honestly think that LFL would take the time to purposely screw up the OOT, just to "stick-it" to the "fans".... it's beyond the time to take a step back from all this and grow-up.

The Luca$ conspiracy theories know no bounds, apparently.

Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Is there a petition we can sign?

It has nothing to do with a petition. More people need to buy the product, that is all. We need to spread the word.

Yeah, they also discontinued their Boy Meets World boxsets after the third season. I was really pissed about that.

Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
Gaffer Tape, how can you accuse Hunt of being the polar end of the scale when all of us have opposed it even more than he has?

And Mike, I'm sure Hunt will be very respectful. I read his column every day and he goes into things with an open mind. If he sees thse DVD's and is wowed by them, he'll tell the truth. It'll be hard if the people from TFN are yapping about why you would even want the OOT anyway though. In which case Hunt can bash thier heads in for all I care.

Oh, I have a great deal of respect for Hunt. I just know that Jay doesn't like him. Lucasfilm will probably continue to spout the bullshit that they have been saying in their official response, but hey, Hunt has a section of his website devoted explicitly to explaining why LFL can restore the OOT and just won't.

The TF.N guys were there? Oh, great. Well, Hunt is right and Lucasfilm just won't listen.



Easy there . Why wasn't Sansweet or McCallum there? Do Lucasfilm not even have the balls to defend their own products? Or do they know that it is substandard ans simply not want to admit it?

As for the TFN guys, I don't give a shit if they think alienating fans makes Lucas more money. It doesn't work on me. I'm not buying a shitty product just because it has Star Wars stamped on it. Let Lucas come to me. If he doesn't care, then he will get no money from fans such as myself.

P.S. This is pretty good for a "bonus" feature, to have the movie in three different languages. Almost makes it seem like it's the main attraction....

Originally posted by: Tiptup
Bah, I don't care how good these DVDs might look, Lucasfilm could have easilly done a better Job. More importantly, this release is not worth purchasing the 2004 edits again (I already feel like burning the ones I own and I don't want a freakin' pair set).

Are you sending them back?



Exactly what is he making up? Lucasfilm can do a proper restoration that gives these films the respect that they deserve. They are not. Therefore, they deserve the criticism which they recieve. Lucas dislikes the original theatrial versions while millions of people prefer them. starwars.com is running the item which devalues their own product. What shit is he making up? Mverta is very intelligent, to the point of being a bit intimidating, INMESHO. Read some of his posts.

The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already